Teen death at Whitman?

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds of a similar story in Massachusetts. This kid was one year out of high school and home from Duke -same story though.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/hypothermia_killed_michael_doh.html

That happened in MAY?? How cold does it get at night in May in Massachusetts??

I think it rained and his shoes got wet. He was near a marsh. It was a heartbreaking 6 days. The entire town was looking for him.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny how the people who say that they drank on a fairly regular basis when they were teens also insist that MOST kids do it too.

The statistics say that most HS kids do not drink like that actually.

People who went to high school in this area and know exactly what goes down are telling you how it is. If you choose not to believe that, your call. Doesn't change the facts, and being steadfastly naive won't benefit you.

I both went through 4 years of HS in this area and graduated. My kids have also attended a HS in the area. I didn't drink in HS although I had the opportunity to do so and probably did more self monitoring than the majority of my peers. I had the opportunity to drink, I just didn't do it. Once I turned legal age and went to college I did drink although I never drove drunk.

My own teens similarly don't drink in HS. I actually don't think that is uncommon at all.

The stats show 66% drink in HS.

The stats show that 66% have had alcohol. That means sips of wine at dinner at Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. Champagne on New Year's Eve - with their families. I did this as a teen. Doesn't mean I was out drinking in the woods my friends. I wasn't.

Nor does it mean that 66% of HS kids are heading out to drinking parties on the weekend. Statistics indicate that most HS kids do not go to those types of parties.

[Anonymous]

Can NBC 4 please forcibly retire Pat Collins? I don't know if it's his age or some other infirmity but his "reporting" is pathetic and disgraceful. Old doddering white men have it so easy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny how the people who say that they drank on a fairly regular basis when they were teens also insist that MOST kids do it too.

The statistics say that most HS kids do not drink like that actually.

People who went to high school in this area and know exactly what goes down are telling you how it is. If you choose not to believe that, your call. Doesn't change the facts, and being steadfastly naive won't benefit you.

I both went through 4 years of HS in this area and graduated. My kids have also attended a HS in the area. I didn't drink in HS although I had the opportunity to do so and probably did more self monitoring than the majority of my peers. I had the opportunity to drink, I just didn't do it. Once I turned legal age and went to college I did drink although I never drove drunk.

My own teens similarly don't drink in HS. I actually don't think that is uncommon at all.

The stats show 66% drink in HS.

The stats show that 66% have had alcohol. That means sips of wine at dinner at Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. Champagne on New Year's Eve - with their families. I did this as a teen. Doesn't mean I was out drinking in the woods my friends. I wasn't.

Nor does it mean that 66% of HS kids are heading out to drinking parties on the weekend. Statistics indicate that most HS kids do not go to those types of parties.

42% of 12th graders had at least one drink in the 30 days prior to the survey (23% of 9th graders). 25% of 12th graders have had 5 or more drinks in a row. (10% of 9th graders). Not every high school kid is going to large, out of control parties, but a significant number of them drink (sure, based on this, you can say most don't, but 42% is a lot of 12th graders) and there is a continuous progression in numbers from 9th to 12th grade. Good kids drink, honors kids drink, athletes drink. Not every kid. But a lot of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny how the people who say that they drank on a fairly regular basis when they were teens also insist that MOST kids do it too.

The statistics say that most HS kids do not drink like that actually.

People who went to high school in this area and know exactly what goes down are telling you how it is. If you choose not to believe that, your call. Doesn't change the facts, and being steadfastly naive won't benefit you.

I both went through 4 years of HS in this area and graduated. My kids have also attended a HS in the area. I didn't drink in HS although I had the opportunity to do so and probably did more self monitoring than the majority of my peers. I had the opportunity to drink, I just didn't do it. Once I turned legal age and went to college I did drink although I never drove drunk.

My own teens similarly don't drink in HS. I actually don't think that is uncommon at all.

The stats show 66% drink in HS.

The stats show that 66% have had alcohol. That means sips of wine at dinner at Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. Champagne on New Year's Eve - with their families. I did this as a teen. Doesn't mean I was out drinking in the woods my friends. I wasn't.

Nor does it mean that 66% of HS kids are heading out to drinking parties on the weekend. Statistics indicate that most HS kids do not go to those types of parties.

The survey does not ask that so you are making that up. You don't know what the 66% means. The statistics does not indicate that at all. The statistics say that 90% of underage drinking is binge drinking.Binge drinking is defined as 5+ drinks for boys and 4+ drinks for girls.

[Anonymous]

Since when do kids tell the truth?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds of a similar story in Massachusetts. This kid was one year out of high school and home from Duke -same story though.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/hypothermia_killed_michael_doh.html

That happened in MAY?? How cold does it get at night in May in Massachusetts??

I think it rained and his shoes got wet. He was near a marsh. It was a heartbreaking 6 days. The entire town was looking for him.

OMG how horrible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny how the people who say that they drank on a fairly regular basis when they were teens also insist that MOST kids do it too.

The statistics say that most HS kids do not drink like that actually.

People who went to high school in this area and know exactly what goes down are telling you how it is. If you choose not to believe that, your call. Doesn't change the facts, and being steadfastly naive won't benefit you.

I both went through 4 years of HS in this area and graduated. My kids have also attended a HS in the area. I didn't drink in HS although I had the opportunity to do so and probably did more self monitoring than the majority of my peers. I had the opportunity to drink, I just didn't do it. Once I turned legal age and went to college I did drink although I never drove drunk.

My own teens similarly don't drink in HS. I actually don't think that is uncommon at all.

The stats show 66% drink in HS.

The stats show that 66% have had alcohol. That means sips of wine at dinner at Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. Champagne on New Year's Eve - with their families. I did this as a teen. Doesn't mean I was out drinking in the woods my friends. I wasn't.

Nor does it mean that 66% of HS kids are heading out to drinking parties on the weekend. Statistics indicate that most HS kids do not go to those types of parties.

The survey does not ask that so you are making that up. You don't know what the 66% means. The statistics does not indicate that at all. The statistics say that 90% of underage drinking is binge drinking.Binge drinking is defined as 5+ drinks for boys and 4+ drinks for girls.

You think that 66% of HS kids binge drink? I don't. I think that some of them have a glass of wine on Christmas or a beer with dad on the 4th of July. A much smaller percentage go to drinking parties. And an even smaller percentage actually binge drink at those parties.

Surveys don't tend to make these distinctions very clear.

[Anonymous]

^It would be interesting to know what month that survey was conducted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny how the people who say that they drank on a fairly regular basis when they were teens also insist that MOST kids do it too.

The statistics say that most HS kids do not drink like that actually.

People who went to high school in this area and know exactly what goes down are telling you how it is. If you choose not to believe that, your call. Doesn't change the facts, and being steadfastly naive won't benefit you.

I both went through 4 years of HS in this area and graduated. My kids have also attended a HS in the area. I didn't drink in HS although I had the opportunity to do so and probably did more self monitoring than the majority of my peers. I had the opportunity to drink, I just didn't do it. Once I turned legal age and went to college I did drink although I never drove drunk.

My own teens similarly don't drink in HS. I actually don't think that is uncommon at all.

The stats show 66% drink in HS.

The stats show that 66% have had alcohol. That means sips of wine at dinner at Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. Champagne on New Year's Eve - with their families. I did this as a teen. Doesn't mean I was out drinking in the woods my friends. I wasn't.

Nor does it mean that 66% of HS kids are heading out to drinking parties on the weekend. Statistics indicate that most HS kids do not go to those types of parties.

The survey does not ask that so you are making that up. You don't know what the 66% means. The statistics does not indicate that at all. The statistics say that 90% of underage drinking is binge drinking.Binge drinking is defined as 5+ drinks for boys and 4+ drinks for girls.

You think that 66% of HS kids binge drink? I don't. I think that some of them have a glass of wine on Christmas or a beer with dad on the 4th of July. A much smaller percentage go to drinking parties. And an even smaller percentage actually binge drink at those parties.

Surveys don't tend to make these distinctions very clear.

It's not clear. I would estimate it is 90% of the 66% but that still is not completely correct since older teens binge more than younger teens.

The good new is the amount of drinking is clearly trending downward from the 89's/90's.

[Anonymous]

Is the local suicide rate going up or down?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny how the people who say that they drank on a fairly regular basis when they were teens also insist that MOST kids do it too.

The statistics say that most HS kids do not drink like that actually.

People who went to high school in this area and know exactly what goes down are telling you how it is. If you choose not to believe that, your call. Doesn't change the facts, and being steadfastly naive won't benefit you.

I both went through 4 years of HS in this area and graduated. My kids have also attended a HS in the area. I didn't drink in HS although I had the opportunity to do so and probably did more self monitoring than the majority of my peers. I had the opportunity to drink, I just didn't do it. Once I turned legal age and went to college I did drink although I never drove drunk.

My own teens similarly don't drink in HS. I actually don't think that is uncommon at all.

The stats show 66% drink in HS.

The stats show that 66% have had alcohol. That means sips of wine at dinner at Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. Champagne on New Year's Eve - with their families. I did this as a teen. Doesn't mean I was out drinking in the woods my friends. I wasn't.

Nor does it mean that 66% of HS kids are heading out to drinking parties on the weekend. Statistics indicate that most HS kids do not go to those types of parties.

The survey does not ask that so you are making that up. You don't know what the 66% means. The statistics does not indicate that at all. The statistics say that 90% of underage drinking is binge drinking.Binge drinking is defined as 5+ drinks for boys and 4+ drinks for girls.

You think that 66% of HS kids binge drink? I don't. I think that some of them have a glass of wine on Christmas or a beer with dad on the 4th of July. A much smaller percentage go to drinking parties. And an even smaller percentage actually binge drink at those parties.

Surveys don't tend to make these distinctions very clear.

It's not clear. I would estimate it is 90% of the 66% but that still is not completely correct since older teens binge more than younger teens.

The good new is the amount of drinking is clearly trending downward from the 89's/90's.

So you think that 60% of HS kids are binge drinking? I find that really hard to believe. If it were true there would be alcohol related teen deaths every month.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny how the people who say that they drank on a fairly regular basis when they were teens also insist that MOST kids do it too.

The statistics say that most HS kids do not drink like that actually.

People who went to high school in this area and know exactly what goes down are telling you how it is. If you choose not to believe that, your call. Doesn't change the facts, and being steadfastly naive won't benefit you.

I both went through 4 years of HS in this area and graduated. My kids have also attended a HS in the area. I didn't drink in HS although I had the opportunity to do so and probably did more self monitoring than the majority of my peers. I had the opportunity to drink, I just didn't do it. Once I turned legal age and went to college I did drink although I never drove drunk.

My own teens similarly don't drink in HS. I actually don't think that is uncommon at all.

The stats show 66% drink in HS.

The stats show that 66% have had alcohol. That means sips of wine at dinner at Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. Champagne on New Year's Eve - with their families. I did this as a teen. Doesn't mean I was out drinking in the woods my friends. I wasn't.

Nor does it mean that 66% of HS kids are heading out to drinking parties on the weekend. Statistics indicate that most HS kids do not go to those types of parties.

The survey does not ask that so you are making that up. You don't know what the 66% means. The statistics does not indicate that at all. The statistics say that 90% of underage drinking is binge drinking.Binge drinking is defined as 5+ drinks for boys and 4+ drinks for girls.

You think that 66% of HS kids binge drink? I don't. I think that some of them have a glass of wine on Christmas or a beer with dad on the 4th of July. A much smaller percentage go to drinking parties. And an even smaller percentage actually binge drink at those parties.

Surveys don't tend to make these distinctions very clear.

It's not clear. I would estimate it is 90% of the 66% but that still is not completely correct since older teens binge more than younger teens.

The good new is the amount of drinking is clearly trending downward from the 89's/90's.

So you think that 60% of HS kids are binge drinking? I find that really hard to believe. If it were true there would be alcohol related teen deaths every month.

I think 60 % of HS students have had 5 drinks. I don't think they binge drink every weekend.

[Anonymous]

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Is the local suicide rate going up or down?

Anyone?

[Anonymous]

More details from the police: http://www.mymcpnews.com/2017/12/12/update-detectives-continue-to-investigate-death-of-bethesda-teenager/

Sounds like there was a planned party without alcohol and parents were at least loosely supervising, but then extra uninvited kids found out about it on social media and showed up with alcohol and made a mess. When the parents realized what was going on, they told everybody to call their parents for rides and to go home.

This kid was seen to be possibly drunk by the police who responded, but his friends said they were leaving with him so the cops didn't do anything. I guess at some point he separated from the friends and never made it home.

Why his father spoke to the police about his kid not coming home at 3:30am, but then only reported him missing at 12:30pm and tried Find my iPhone or whatever to track him at that point, I have no clue.

Seems like a series of mistakes and misjudgments by various parties that wouldn't have been a disaster on their own, but added up to this sad situation. And even then, probably 99 times out of 100 the kid makes it home anyway. Just tragic.