Don't fly United

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are regulations about how airlines choose who to bump, and the process (including compensation offers). My guess is United followed them. The person who was forcibly removed did not comply with a lawful order

I don't work for United.. but I'm not sure why this passenger didn't just comply with the police asking him to leave. Does he also not pull over his car when police try to stop him?


You keep harping on about this lawful order nonsense. What is a lawful order? We don't live in a military state, just because someone says get up, including an officer, doesn't mean you have to get up. Sure, you'll face their wrath and deal with consequences, you'll be rewarded in court of course, but it's the GD principle. He had a ticket, an assigned seat and was already allowed to board the plane. There is no indication that he wa a threat or otherwise a danger to fellow passengers, he wasn't under arrest. The airline should've found another way to get their crew to their location and not at this mans expense.


He wasn't committing a crime, he wasn't under arrest, the police had no legal authority to drag him off the plane. They let United use them as goons to enforce their corporate profits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are regulations about how airlines choose who to bump, and the process (including compensation offers). My guess is United followed them. The person who was forcibly removed did not comply with a lawful order

I don't work for United.. but I'm not sure why this passenger didn't just comply with the police asking him to leave. Does he also not pull over his car when police try to stop him?


You keep harping on about this lawful order nonsense. What is a lawful order? We don't live in a military state, just because someone says get up, including an officer, doesn't mean you have to get up. Sure, you'll face their wrath and deal with consequences, you'll be rewarded in court of course, but it's the GD principle. He had a ticket, an assigned seat and was already allowed to board the plane. There is no indication that he wa a threat or otherwise a danger to fellow passengers, he wasn't under arrest. The airline should've found another way to get their crew to their location and not at this mans expense.


Just stop. He was a threat:

https://twitter.com/Tyler_Bridges/status/851228695360663552
Anonymous
I don't understand how this guy is the bad guy here, NO ONE ELSE ON THE PLANE VOLUNTEERED EITHER! No one. All those people taking videos also refused. And then to just sit there, I wouldn't have been able to take it and probably would have just stepped in and said "ok ok I will go". But no. Everyone stares, but all of them are just as guilty or just as innocent.

IMO it's all the airlines fault. What a bunch of morons to let things go this far, and how cheap does United have to be, they should have upped the offer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is so bizarre.
https://twitter.com/Tyler_Bridges/status/851228695360663552

The guy who got dragged out returns to the flight and is running around like a chicken mumbling " I have to go home". This guy is suppose to be a doctor?


What the what is that?!?! How do you get on after being dragged off by police??


OMFG, you cannot be this dense.

Maybe this is why they had to act how they acted? Maybe, rather than being a kind-hearted physician, he actually was a threat to other passengers.

This obviously occurred before he was extricated from his seat, which is starting to seem slightly more justified.


No, it didn't. This was when he was allowed back on the plane, after he was forcibly removed after being selected for bumping by the computer. You're trying to work with "alternative facts" here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are regulations about how airlines choose who to bump, and the process (including compensation offers). My guess is United followed them. The person who was forcibly removed did not comply with a lawful order

I don't work for United.. but I'm not sure why this passenger didn't just comply with the police asking him to leave. Does he also not pull over his car when police try to stop him?


You keep harping on about this lawful order nonsense. What is a lawful order? We don't live in a military state, just because someone says get up, including an officer, doesn't mean you have to get up. Sure, you'll face their wrath and deal with consequences, you'll be rewarded in court of course, but it's the GD principle. He had a ticket, an assigned seat and was already allowed to board the plane. There is no indication that he wa a threat or otherwise a danger to fellow passengers, he wasn't under arrest. The airline should've found another way to get their crew to their location and not at this mans expense.


Just stop. He was a threat:

https://twitter.com/Tyler_Bridges/status/851228695360663552


No, he wasn't. That was afterwards.
Anonymous
I can't get over how this is going to cost United multiples of renting the nicest limo possible for the bumped customers (they probably couldn't do that for their employees due to work rules on hours worked.)

Clearly either their local or regional ops people are going to get a nice talking to - not for the mistreatment, but for the foolish financial decision.

And I'm not pro-United on this point, but a captain is in charge of his plane - if he asks for someone to be deplaned, they are off, no questions asked. Can do so for any or no reason. And the cops are obliged to follow those orders.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'll be the first to call BS on this guy needing to see patients. Unless he's traveling home and has appointments, I think folks are under the false impression that he's so special that he flies to see his patients.

I'd like to be proven wrong. Just kidding, nobody like's being proven wrong.

His bio should be out shortly I'd imagine.


Um, the whole point was that he was flying home and had patients scheduled for today.


He shouldn't have been flying home on the same day he had appointments, that's really not that responsible. Especially flying during the spring months which can have hell-storm weather leading to delays.

Book smart, but maybe not too street smart.


He wasn't flying the same day he had appointments. He had a Sunday afternoon flight, and had appointments Monday morning. Pretty reasonable approach. If United had upped the incentive, some other party would have taken it and none of this would have happenned. For the sake of a few hundred dollars, United has a PR nightmare on their hands.

This exactly. Shame on United.
Anonymous
Yes, the poor man - who apparently is in his late 60's - was disoriented after being bloodied and knocked out. This video is very disturbing

https://twitter.com/kaylyn_davis/status/851480498186485760
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the poor man - who apparently is in his late 60's - was disoriented after being bloodied and knocked out. This video is very disturbing

https://twitter.com/kaylyn_davis/status/851480498186485760


Wow that is so sad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And still, it is a 4+ hour drive. Why not get a limo and put the 4 United Employees in it if everything else was booked. They would have been door to door faster than sorting through this mess.


THIS!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A better video of it:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JayseDavid/status/851223662976004096/video/1


Wow, this is f'ing unreal
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the poor man - who apparently is in his late 60's - was disoriented after being bloodied and knocked out. This video is very disturbing

https://twitter.com/kaylyn_davis/status/851480498186485760


Wow that is so sad.

Disgusting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the poor man - who apparently is in his late 60's - was disoriented after being bloodied and knocked out. This video is very disturbing

https://twitter.com/kaylyn_davis/status/851480498186485760


Wow that is so sad.


+1 the poor guy looks like he's reliving some horrible memory.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is so bizarre.
https://twitter.com/Tyler_Bridges/status/851228695360663552

The guy who got dragged out returns to the flight and is running around like a chicken mumbling " I have to go home". This guy is suppose to be a doctor?


What the what is that?!?! How do you get on after being dragged off by police??


OMFG, you cannot be this dense.

Maybe this is why they had to act how they acted? Maybe, rather than being a kind-hearted physician, he actually was a threat to other passengers.

This obviously occurred before he was extricated from his seat, which is starting to seem slightly more justified.


I'm not yet seeing anything obvious or justified about this situation. The person who posted the footage above says it was taken after the guy was forcibly removed from the plane. The reaction of other passengers as it was happening shows they could discern no reason WHY it was happening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the poor man - who apparently is in his late 60's - was disoriented after being bloodied and knocked out. This video is very disturbing

https://twitter.com/kaylyn_davis/status/851480498186485760


Wow that is so sad.


+1 the poor guy looks like he's reliving some horrible memory.


That was my thought too
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