APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?

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Anonymous wrote:We are walkable to W-L and would be walkable to the Wilson site (I think - it's close). Much rather have Wilson. I don't know who complained and got it switched.

You are insane. Have you ever been to Wilson site. The county has never run a truly urban school, and they were focusing on the wrong elements rather than what is important to education.

Ok. Found a complainer.

The county never focuses on what's important but I would have liked to try an urban school. It can be done...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are walkable to W-L and would be walkable to the Wilson site (I think - it's close). Much rather have Wilson. I don't know who complained and got it switched.

+1,000,000

Re those who got it switched: the same assholes that we will now have to see when we are moved to YHS.

[Anonymous]

Can you say: lawsuit?

[Anonymous]

We have seen the decline in standardized test scores, the ridiculous # of trailers and over-crowding at the middle school level. It gets worse every year. The School Board is filled with a bunch of ineffective losers. Murphy is horrible with a capital H. The decline is already happening. Bye, bye...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are walkable to W-L and would be walkable to the Wilson site (I think - it's close). Much rather have Wilson. I don't know who complained and got it switched.

You are insane. Have you ever been to Wilson site. The county has never run a truly urban school, and they were focusing on the wrong elements rather than what is important to education.

Ok. Found a complainer.

The county never focuses on what's important but I would have liked to try an urban school. It can be done...

Yes it can be done. Do you go to any of the presentations about the proposed Ms? The topics were so off base, you knew this MS plan was thrown together rather than a true vision for an urban school. They talked about LEED certification rather than how to provide athletic facilities or parking/transportation logistics for an urban school but with mostly suburban student population (hence very few walkers, most driving or busing). You can still lottery into HB, so you can get your urban school.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at TJ now. The way the boundaries are now, some of her friends will go to WL and some will go to Wakefield with her. Are other middle schools split like that? I took those planning units that go to TJ -> WL and put them in Wakefield. Don't we all want our kids to go to high school with their friends?

The reality at W-L is that the school is so big you aren't necessarily going with your friends. You might not ever see some of your elementary and middle school friends at high school. That was my DS1's experience anyway. Not necessarily a bad thing. Kids make new friends or find other ways to see old ones.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I look at this the more I like moving 2315, 4815, 4818, 4829, 4899 to Yorktown, and 1202, 4604, 4606, 4612, 4695 to Wakefield. That avoids moving planning districts with high farms rates to Wakefield and it does move some to Yorktown. It doesn't take anyone out of a walk zone. 2315 is currently Swanson, tons of Swanson already goes to Yorktown. The rest are Jefferson. Similarly the Wakefield moves are Kenmore and Jefferson.

I did this as well. It makes sense but I'm sure there would be push back from the Lyon Park community. Wakefield is not good for property values.

I'm doing the same moves suggested above- connecting the island to Yorktown and moving Ashton Heights and Lyon village to Wakefield. Their property values won't budge. Especially after a year to two, because it would change the demographics at Wakefield, we'd have two schools that look like WL.

The pushback is not about property values but about community cohesion.

"Community cohesion" at the high school level is a non-issue. By that time virtually all students have friends all over the county from previous schools they have attended, sports teams and other non-APS extracurricular activities they have participated in and just the plain fact that the students are much more independent. I have had three attend W-L and their friends are all over the county and beyond.

In my planning unit and neighborhood, there is little community cohesion based on schools even though everyone in the neighborhood is zoned for the same middle and high schools. We are zoned for 2 different ES and by the time you add in private and APS choice ES schools, everyone is all over the place. Nevertheless we have a strong community - just based on other things.

+1, another parent of W-L students here. The concerns about keeping neighborhoods together for high school are completely overblown. Many of the people wringing their hands about this would send their kids to H-B in a hot minute, where their kids would be apart from their neighbors and elementary & middle school friends, but would make new friends and form a new community. Just as they will if they end up at one of the other Arlington high schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more I look at this the more I like moving 2315, 4815, 4818, 4829, 4899 to Yorktown, and 1202, 4604, 4606, 4612, 4695 to Wakefield. That avoids moving planning districts with high farms rates to Wakefield and it does move some to Yorktown. It doesn't take anyone out of a walk zone. 2315 is currently Swanson, tons of Swanson already goes to Yorktown. The rest are Jefferson. Similarly the Wakefield moves are Kenmore and Jefferson.

I did this as well. It makes sense but I'm sure there would be push back from the Lyon Park community. Wakefield is not good for property values.

I'm doing the same moves suggested above- connecting the island to Yorktown and moving Ashton Heights and Lyon village to Wakefield. Their property values won't budge. Especially after a year to two, because it would change the demographics at Wakefield, we'd have two schools that look like WL.

The pushback is not about property values but about community cohesion.

"Community cohesion" at the high school level is a non-issue. By that time virtually all students have friends all over the county from previous schools they have attended, sports teams and other non-APS extracurricular activities they have participated in and just the plain fact that the students are much more independent. I have had three attend W-L and their friends are all over the county and beyond.

In my planning unit and neighborhood, there is little community cohesion based on schools even though everyone in the neighborhood is zoned for the same middle and high schools. We are zoned for 2 different ES and by the time you add in private and APS choice ES schools, everyone is all over the place. Nevertheless we have a strong community - just based on other things.

+1, another parent of W-L students here. The concerns about keeping neighborhoods together for high school are completely overblown. Many of the people wringing their hands about this would send their kids to H-B in a hot minute, where their kids would be apart from their neighbors and elementary & middle school friends, but would make new friends and form a new community. Just as they will if they end up at one of the other Arlington high schools.

For the parents out there who are worried about your kids making new friends if they can't stay with the same kids all the way through ES/MS/HS, do you not think it's maybe a good idea, from a growth perspective, for kids to have to stretch outside of their comfort zones once in a while? Making friends and learning to socialize appropriately is a life skill. Probably one of the most important ones. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I think maybe it's not the end of the world for our kids to have to be in situations that are new, and uncomfortable at first, so that they can grow. I understand the impulse, as a parent, to want to protect your child from every bit of potential pain. Believe me, I do. But I also really don't want to raise an emotionally stunted kid who falls apart the first week of college because they have never been confronted with any adversity. It's a balancing act, and I think it's something to consider, if this is really the reason you don't want to be moved. I think your kids will be okay, and maybe not only okay, but possibly better able to navigate new social situations.

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^^its not about making new friends, for chrissakes. My kids have good friends all over the county and beyond.

It's about being able to walk to and from HS--especially after pra th e, etc.

My house is exactly 1 Mile from W-L in any walkingapbapp used.

This is fucked up. It is also fuckec up to take 10 kids out of a large tight-knit neighborhood while the other 65 kids get to walk to and from school. Why carve out a small island out of a single neighborhood?

Arlington tries to sell itself as a family-oriented walkable place and they make idiotic decisions like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more I look at this the more I like moving 2315, 4815, 4818, 4829, 4899 to Yorktown, and 1202, 4604, 4606, 4612, 4695 to Wakefield. That avoids moving planning districts with high farms rates to Wakefield and it does move some to Yorktown. It doesn't take anyone out of a walk zone. 2315 is currently Swanson, tons of Swanson already goes to Yorktown. The rest are Jefferson. Similarly the Wakefield moves are Kenmore and Jefferson.

I did this as well. It makes sense but I'm sure there would be push back from the Lyon Park community. Wakefield is not good for property values.

I'm doing the same moves suggested above- connecting the island to Yorktown and moving Ashton Heights and Lyon village to Wakefield. Their property values won't budge. Especially after a year to two, because it would change the demographics at Wakefield, we'd have two schools that look like WL.

The pushback is not about property values but about community cohesion.

"Community cohesion" at the high school level is a non-issue. By that time virtually all students have friends all over the county from previous schools they have attended, sports teams and other non-APS extracurricular activities they have participated in and just the plain fact that the students are much more independent. I have had three attend W-L and their friends are all over the county and beyond.

In my planning unit and neighborhood, there is little community cohesion based on schools even though everyone in the neighborhood is zoned for the same middle and high schools. We are zoned for 2 different ES and by the time you add in private and APS choice ES schools, everyone is all over the place. Nevertheless we have a strong community - just based on other things.

+1, another parent of W-L students here. The concerns about keeping neighborhoods together for high school are completely overblown. Many of the people wringing their hands about this would send their kids to H-B in a hot minute, where their kids would be apart from their neighbors and elementary & middle school friends, but would make new friends and form a new community. Just as they will if they end up at one of the other Arlington high schools.

For the parents out there who are worried about your kids making new friends if they can't stay with the same kids all the way through ES/MS/HS, do you not think it's maybe a good idea, from a growth perspective, for kids to have to stretch outside of their comfort zones once in a while? Making friends and learning to socialize appropriately is a life skill. Probably one of the most important ones. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I think maybe it's not the end of the world for our kids to have to be in situations that are new, and uncomfortable at first, so that they can grow. I understand the impulse, as a parent, to want to protect your child from every bit of potential pain. Believe me, I do. But I also really don't want to raise an emotionally stunted kid who falls apart the first week of college because they have never been confronted with any adversity. It's a balancing act, and I think it's something to consider, if this is really the reason you don't want to be moved. I think your kids will be okay, and maybe not only okay, but possibly better able to navigate new social situations.

No, dumbass, we don't want to move because it will require being bussed.

We can walk to W-L.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^its not about making new friends, for chrissakes. My kids have good friends all over the county and beyond.

It's about being able to walk to and from HS--especially after pra th e, etc.

My house is exactly 1 Mile from W-L in any walkingapbapp used.

This is fucked up. It is also fuckec up to take 10 kids out of a large tight-knit neighborhood while the other 65 kids get to walk to and from school. Why carve out a small island out of a single neighborhood?

Arlington tries to sell itself as a family-oriented walkable place and they make idiotic decisions like this.

What planning unit is this?

[Anonymous]

Everyone has their heads in their asses.

It has zero to do with friends.

It's proximity and walking.

A few assholes in our neighborhood want an all-white student body because their kids are social misfits and can't stand up for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have seen the decline in standardized test scores, the ridiculous # of trailers and over-crowding at the middle school level. It gets worse every year. The School Board is filled with a bunch of ineffective losers. Murphy is horrible with a capital H. The decline is already happening. Bye, bye...

Magen you list for 1.5 million will a selling point be the great schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^its not about making new friends, for chrissakes. My kids have good friends all over the county and beyond.

It's about being able to walk to and from HS--especially after pra th e, etc.

My house is exactly 1 Mile from W-L in any walkingapbapp used.

This is fucked up. It is also fuckec up to take 10 kids out of a large tight-knit neighborhood while the other 65 kids get to walk to and from school. Why carve out a small island out of a single neighborhood?

Arlington tries to sell itself as a family-oriented walkable place and they make idiotic decisions like this.

What planning unit is this?

Key/ASF zone in Lyon village.

[Anonymous]

True leadership would have meant seizing a park and putting a new school there.