Question for Madlax Parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is absolutely true and confirmed. Ask your own club because they get the information from HoCo. Madlax isn't ashamed and they will tell you their club is class based and who are they to tell parents what to do with their own kids.

So if the dogs have tons of holdbacks, you don't think there's a chance any of those kids started school late and then were held back when they hit MD?

You are kidding yourself. The high schools do allow it but they aren't supposed to play sports their senior year but this rule is never enforced. O'Connel got caught a few years ago and they denied to the end until they couldn't anymore.

The HS tournaments and leagues do not enforce this. They also play teams that have PG programs like IMG and Culver who clearly have many 19 and some 20 year old players.

[Anonymous]

Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ 3 seems low compared to black wolf, crabs and Vlc.

It's super low compared to Prep and Gonzaga.

Wrong! you are not properly informed. Black Wolf 8th graders are playing in the HS division. They are playing UP not down. That is a fact. VLC kids are almost all public school kids and no older kids. This is a Madlax DC Dogs thing and maybe Crabs but Black Wolf is not even in the HOCO league so do not pin that on this team.

20% of the nation hold kids back. 3 is not an abnormal number.

Every team has hold backs.

[Anonymous]

Read again. Double hold back. 16 in 8th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

So you think a double holdback is okay? a 16 year old playing in 8th grade is okay? Go to your next kid's game and see how many others agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read again. Double hold back. 16 in 8th grade.

In kindergarten, kids learn the alphabet and are beginning to learn how to read. By second grade, kids learn by reading. If your kid is 16 and is still in 8th grade, there's a stool and cap waiting for him in the corner...but he can still play w/ kids his own age. I had friends in 8th grade that played UP to play freshman lacrosse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

So you think a double holdback is okay? a 16 year old playing in 8th grade is okay? Go to your next kid's game and see how many others agree.

you think they are 16 because they are driving, they are 15 and will turn 16 Fall of their Freshman year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

So you think a double holdback is okay? a 16 year old playing in 8th grade is okay? Go to your next kid's game and see how many others agree.

you think they are 16 because they are driving, they are 15 and will turn 16 Fall of their Freshman year.

I don't think they will turn 16 by March, I know. BTW - if a kid is driving on a learner's and he got it today, this mean his birthday will be April 29 and he will turn 16 during the HoCo season while in 8th grade. Thanks for verifying. This means they have birthdays, at a minimum in 2003 and possibly even 2002 if they have had a learner's for over 30 days.

Let me fill you in. 8th graders should be born at the most extreme in September of 2003 (and 2003 is ridiculous) through August 2005. Anything younger than that and the child should have severe learning or social issues and not athletic ones.

Delayed entry for summer babies is one thing, January through May stretches it a lot; the year before - wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

So you think a double holdback is okay? a 16 year old playing in 8th grade is okay? Go to your next kid's game and see how many others agree.

you think they are 16 because they are driving, they are 15 and will turn 16 Fall of their Freshman year.

I don't think they will turn 16 by March, I know. BTW - if a kid is driving on a learner's and he got it today, this mean his birthday will be April 29 and he will turn 16 during the HoCo season while in 8th grade. Thanks for verifying. This means they have birthdays, at a minimum in 2003 and possibly even 2002 if they have had a learner's for over 30 days.

Let me fill you in. 8th graders should be born at the most extreme in September of 2003 (and 2003 is ridiculous) through August 2005. Anything younger than that and the child should have severe learning or social issues and not athletic ones.

Delayed entry for summer babies is one thing, January through May stretches it a lot; the year before - wow.

Va is 15 and 6 months
MD is 15 and 9 months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

So you think a double holdback is okay? a 16 year old playing in 8th grade is okay? Go to your next kid's game and see how many others agree.

you think they are 16 because they are driving, they are 15 and will turn 16 Fall of their Freshman year.

Wow, you are verifying they will have 16 year olds in 8th grade. You are also verifying many of the rest of the team are 15 years old in 8th grade and turning 16 in the Fall. You do realize the majority of the kids are 13/14?

I guess MadLax can stand around and pat each other on the back and say how good their kids and coaches are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

So you think a double holdback is okay? a 16 year old playing in 8th grade is okay? Go to your next kid's game and see how many others agree.

you think they are 16 because they are driving, they are 15 and will turn 16 Fall of their Freshman year.

I don't think they will turn 16 by March, I know. BTW - if a kid is driving on a learner's and he got it today, this mean his birthday will be April 29 and he will turn 16 during the HoCo season while in 8th grade. Thanks for verifying. This means they have birthdays, at a minimum in 2003 and possibly even 2002 if they have had a learner's for over 30 days.

Let me fill you in. 8th graders should be born at the most extreme in September of 2003 (and 2003 is ridiculous) through August 2005. Anything younger than that and the child should have severe learning or social issues and not athletic ones.

Delayed entry for summer babies is one thing, January through May stretches it a lot; the year before - wow.

Va is 15 and 6 months
MD is 15 and 9 months.

What's your point? That a team with a bunch of 15 year olds in 8th grade driving a car with a May/June/July birthday don't have an extraordinary advantage over other 8th graders who are 13 and 14?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

So you think a double holdback is okay? a 16 year old playing in 8th grade is okay? Go to your next kid's game and see how many others agree.

you think they are 16 because they are driving, they are 15 and will turn 16 Fall of their Freshman year.

Wow, you are verifying they will have 16 year olds in 8th grade. You are also verifying many of the rest of the team are 15 years old in 8th grade and turning 16 in the Fall. You do realize the majority of the kids are 13/14?

I guess MadLax can stand around and pat each other on the back and say how good their kids and coaches are.

I did not "verify" that Madlax has kids that are any specific age. I just know that Mater Dei kids drive in the spring but that only means they are 15 and will be 16 in the Fall of freshman year.

I don't think it is "okay", it's just what is happening in all the club teams and at Prep and Gonzaga.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

So you think a double holdback is okay? a 16 year old playing in 8th grade is okay? Go to your next kid's game and see how many others agree.

you think they are 16 because they are driving, they are 15 and will turn 16 Fall of their Freshman year.

I don't think they will turn 16 by March, I know. BTW - if a kid is driving on a learner's and he got it today, this mean his birthday will be April 29 and he will turn 16 during the HoCo season while in 8th grade. Thanks for verifying. This means they have birthdays, at a minimum in 2003 and possibly even 2002 if they have had a learner's for over 30 days.

Let me fill you in. 8th graders should be born at the most extreme in September of 2003 (and 2003 is ridiculous) through August 2005. Anything younger than that and the child should have severe learning or social issues and not athletic ones.

Delayed entry for summer babies is one thing, January through May stretches it a lot; the year before - wow.

Va is 15 and 6 months
MD is 15 and 9 months.

What's your point? That a team with a bunch of 15 year olds in 8th grade driving a car with a May/June/July birthday don't have an extraordinary advantage over other 8th graders who are 13 and 14?

I think older kids have an advantage, I think kids that go through puberty early have an advantage also.

I'm just pointing out that they are most likely 15 and 6 months in the Spring because if they are older they are not eligible to play for Gonzaga and Prep.

75% of Mater dei's 8th grade are 15.... I think that is crazy.

3 kids I don't think is crazy, it's actually normal for about 20% of boys to be held back 1 year even if they are born in the Fall.

I think the league should use birthdays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hockey, Football, Basketball etc all have older kids. Only the dorks on here make it out to be something Lacrosse specific and continually beat it like a dead horse.

Yes, but all other sports have age based leagues. In HS it is not as much of an issue

So you think a double holdback is okay? a 16 year old playing in 8th grade is okay? Go to your next kid's game and see how many others agree.

you think they are 16 because they are driving, they are 15 and will turn 16 Fall of their Freshman year.

Wow, you are verifying they will have 16 year olds in 8th grade. You are also verifying many of the rest of the team are 15 years old in 8th grade and turning 16 in the Fall. You do realize the majority of the kids are 13/14?

I guess MadLax can stand around and pat each other on the back and say how good their kids and coaches are.

I did not "verify" that Madlax has kids that are any specific age. I just know that Mater Dei kids drive in the spring but that only means they are 15 and will be 16 in the Fall of freshman year.

I don't think it is "okay", it's just what is happening in all the club teams and at Prep and Gonzaga.

Nice try in trying to deflect away from MadLax but aren't the Dogs, who have a majority Mater Dei, MadLax and aren't most of those kids Maryland based. You continue to bolster that there are a bunch of kids playing MadLax who are well into their 15th birthday. They were turning 15 last Fall. That's 5 months ago and they will be 20 years old graduating high school.

To everyone else, ask your club how old the roster is. If you find your kid and team is at a tremendous disadvantage, it's okay to go somewhere else. If your kid is over 15 and turning 16 either in 8th grade or shortly into their freshman year at Bullis, Prep, DeMatha, St. John's or wherever - it's a shame. Maybe it will be commonplace when they get older and they won't have to explain it to everyone else like you do now.