Prep classes for HGC and MS magnet tests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

But if they get into the magnet then they will receive a better education which makes the prep worthwhile.

Well, they might. Or they might not.

Well, tis better to have the choice of school environment, than not. I'll see to it my children are prepared. That's my duty as a parent.

I think that "prepared for the school environment" is different from "prepped for the test".

[Anonymous]

Ha ha. The joke is on us. The kinds of questions on the test has no bearing on what is being taught in the school or the prep classes.

Especially true for Math. Why don't you ask your DC how the test looked?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ha ha. The joke is on us. The kinds of questions on the test has no bearing on what is being taught in the school or the prep classes.

Especially true for Math. Why don't you ask your DC how the test looked?

You can see what the questions are like in the test booklet online.

[Anonymous]

The test is this weekend for MS and HS magnet. Just ask your kids how much of the material in the Math test was actually covered in class due to 2.0. Go on, just ask.
I am hoping that many parents will actually ask to see the test if their kids do not get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The test is this weekend for MS and HS magnet. Just ask your kids how much of the material in the Math test was actually covered in class due to 2.0. Go on, just ask.
I am hoping that many parents will actually ask to see the test if their kids do not get it.

How in the name of little sour apples are kids supposed to be able to answer this question? And how is it relevant? How much of the material in the math test was covered in class before 2.0, when the fifth-graders taking the test could have been in Math 5, Math 6, Math 7, or IM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But if they get into the magnet then they will receive a better education which makes the prep worthwhile.

Haha. That is certainly not necessarily the case. If the child is not in need of that type of instruction, it won't help him and it could set him back. What is important is for kids to be taught in the way that best suits the way they each individually learn.

My kid does need that type of environment. We are prepping at home.

If your child needs that environment, the test will reflect the need. If the point of prepping is to make it appear that he needs that environment, whether he does or not, it is a waste of time. A kid who ends up in that environment because of faking the need by prepping for the test will not truly benefit from the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The test is this weekend for MS and HS magnet. Just ask your kids how much of the material in the Math test was actually covered in class due to 2.0. Go on, just ask.
I am hoping that many parents will actually ask to see the test if their kids do not get it.

How in the name of little sour apples are kids supposed to be able to answer this question? And how is it relevant? How much of the material in the math test was covered in class before 2.0, when the fifth-graders taking the test could have been in Math 5, Math 6, Math 7, or IM?

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Ahh, but this is the first batch that had 2.0 shoved down their throat. There is no accelerated kid here. This is going to be very interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But if they get into the magnet then they will receive a better education which makes the prep worthwhile.

Haha. That is certainly not necessarily the case. If the child is not in need of that type of instruction, it won't help him and it could set him back. What is important is for kids to be taught in the way that best suits the way they each individually learn.

My kid does need that type of environment. We are prepping at home.

If your child needs that environment, the test will reflect the need. If the point of prepping is to make it appear that he needs that environment, whether he does or not, it is a waste of time. A kid who ends up in that environment because of faking the need by prepping for the test will not truly benefit from the program.

No, the point of prepping is that my child has never had to do the tasks (particularly in two sections of the test) that are required so I think he will do better on the test if he has experience. For reasons I don't want to go into, he is a child who will do better if he has some familiarity. He does need the environment and I am concerned about how he would fare if he had to return to the home school environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The test is this weekend for MS and HS magnet. Just ask your kids how much of the material in the Math test was actually covered in class due to 2.0. Go on, just ask.
I am hoping that many parents will actually ask to see the test if their kids do not get it.

How in the name of little sour apples are kids supposed to be able to answer this question? And how is it relevant? How much of the material in the math test was covered in class before 2.0, when the fifth-graders taking the test could have been in Math 5, Math 6, Math 7, or IM?

is i

Ahh, but this is the first batch that had 2.0 shoved down their throat. There is no accelerated kid here. This is going to be very interesting.

Interesting how, exactly? It's not as though the middle-school admissions committees were deciding between a batch of children who took math before 2.0 and another batch of children who took 2.0 math. All of the children (except the private-school ones) took 2.0 math. Therefore the great majority of the children who will be admitted will have taken 2.0 math.

Also, it's not true that there's no acceleration under 2.0. There is acceleration: compacted math.

[Anonymous]

Is the math section of the test going to be crazy hard for kids who haven't learned what kids in previous years had learned at this point? I wonder if the scores for that section be lower.

[Anonymous]

The math will be crazy hard, but as another poster pointed out that all kids taking it will be the ones under 2.0.

Except, some have been prepping, enriching and getting tutored outside of MCPS. So, these kids are now MORE ADVANTAGED than pre 2.0 where acceleration was offered to everyone in the school, not just those with deep pockets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The math will be crazy hard, but as another poster pointed out that all kids taking it will be the ones under 2.0.

Except, some have been prepping, enriching and getting tutored outside of MCPS. So, these kids are now MORE ADVANTAGED than pre 2.0 where acceleration was offered to everyone in the school, not just those with deep pockets.

Suppose you look at the test questions MCPS posts on line, and pick out some questions that fifth-graders in compacted math will not know how to do, but fifth-graders who have been prepped, enriched, and tutored will know how to do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math will be crazy hard, but as another poster pointed out that all kids taking it will be the ones under 2.0.

Except, some have been prepping, enriching and getting tutored outside of MCPS. So, these kids are now MORE ADVANTAGED than pre 2.0 where acceleration was offered to everyone in the school, not just those with deep pockets.

Suppose you look at the test questions MCPS posts on line, and pick out some questions that fifth-graders in compacted math will not know how to do, but fifth-graders who have been prepped, enriched, and tutored will know how to do?

They only post 5 questions and they aren't that hard but the questions that I have seen elsewhere that are supposed to mimic the test are very hard. And the time limit is tough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math will be crazy hard, but as another poster pointed out that all kids taking it will be the ones under 2.0.

Except, some have been prepping, enriching and getting tutored outside of MCPS. So, these kids are now MORE ADVANTAGED than pre 2.0 where acceleration was offered to everyone in the school, not just those with deep pockets.

Suppose you look at the test questions MCPS posts on line, and pick out some questions that fifth-graders in compacted math will not know how to do, but fifth-graders who have been prepped, enriched, and tutored will know how to do?

They only post 5 questions and they aren't that hard but the questions that I have seen elsewhere that are supposed to mimic the test are very hard. And the time limit is tough.

So actually you don't know what questions are on the test. But yet you assume that they require knowledge that some kids used to learn in math in school under the previous curriculum, but no kid learns in school now. Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math will be crazy hard, but as another poster pointed out that all kids taking it will be the ones under 2.0.

Except, some have been prepping, enriching and getting tutored outside of MCPS. So, these kids are now MORE ADVANTAGED than pre 2.0 where acceleration was offered to everyone in the school, not just those with deep pockets.

Suppose you look at the test questions MCPS posts on line, and pick out some questions that fifth-graders in compacted math will not know how to do, but fifth-graders who have been prepped, enriched, and tutored will know how to do?

They only post 5 questions and they aren't that hard but the questions that I have seen elsewhere that are supposed to mimic the test are very hard. And the time limit is tough.

Curious, where did you see those questions that are supposed to mimic them?