Prep classes for HGC and MS magnet tests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did not know the poor, as a whole, in colleges performed better than the middle and upper classes. Thanks for your revolutionary statistics. Now If only you can translate your personal anecdotes into peer-reviewed references, I might buy your story.

This is not a theory of being poor should have advantage to study well. School subjects are not like swimming, tennis, golf training, or leaning playing music instruments like piano or violin, you can really work on yourselves. Math/Reading do not need private teachers involved if kids learn well at school and work hard at home. If there is an incentive to get out of poverty, then they should certainly do better by working extra hard. The only assumption is the poor and the rich are equally smart

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In college, the poor often do better because they don't have much money to go to party/other social lives --- they keep working hard and prepare for TOFEL/GRE, and they come to US

Which college(s) are you getting your statistics from? Harvard, UMD, Montgomery College, MIT, UMBC, Stanford

Stats from people I know of. Yes, Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Columbia University professors, UMD ? what is that ?

What the actual data show:

whether a student graduates or not seems to depend today almost entirely on just one factor — how much money his or her parents make. To put it in blunt terms: Rich kids graduate; poor and working-class kids don’t. Or to put it more statistically: About a quarter of college freshmen born into the bottom half of the income distribution will manage to collect a bachelor’s degree by age 24, while almost 90 percent of freshmen born into families in the top income quartile will go on to finish their degree.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/magazine/who-gets-to-graduate.html

That is why so wrong in America ! I was referring schools in China.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not know the poor, as a whole, in colleges performed better than the middle and upper classes. Thanks for your revolutionary statistics. Now If only you can translate your personal anecdotes into peer-reviewed references, I might buy your story.

This is not a theory of being poor should have advantage to study well. School subjects are not like swimming, tennis, golf training, or leaning playing music instruments like piano or violin, you can really work on yourselves. Math/Reading do not need private teachers involved if kids learn well at school and work hard at home. If there is an incentive to get out of poverty, then they should certainly do better by working extra hard. The only assumption is the poor and the rich are equally smart

We can't assume any two people are equally smart. Some people, whether rich or poor, are smarter than others. Working extra hard is great, but you need to be smart, too.

[Anonymous]

I can't follow.

[Anonymous]

STOP already!

There are prep classes for HGC, MS and HS magnet tests in Montgomery County. They have an acceptance rate of 30%-40%. It is not unusual to see some kids get into multiple programs and some kids get into none. It is a self selected group of kids that want to get into these programs and have the money to afford these programs. Parents are also very involved and supportive.

Now, if you want to go this route, info has been shared on this thread. If you don't that is also ok. More kids who get into these programs do so without going through these prep centers, however, they do prep somewhat at home.

[Anonymous]

Tutor doesn't make too much difference. It's all about number of hours you put into study yourself. We are equal to have 24 hours everyday. The more you put into study, the better results. However, rich people in China can buy an option to send their kids to international schools and let them apply for schools in US.

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College admissions are based on entrance exam results, you can't buy it. Poor or rich the very same test.

Agree, but some can buy the next best thing --- year round tutoring for the almighty test

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

In college, the poor often do better because they don't have much money to go to party/other social lives --- they keep working hard and prepare for TOFEL/GRE, and they come to US

Which college(s) are you getting your statistics from? Harvard, UMD, Montgomery College, MIT, UMBC, Stanford

Stats from people I know of. Yes, Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Columbia University professors, UMD ? what is that ?

Ignorance abounds. What does one expect with such deep critical thinking skills on display?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tutor doesn't make too much difference. It's all about number of hours you put into study yourself. We are equal to have 24 hours everyday. The more you put into study, the better results.

More hours will sometimes get a better result, but not always and not equally. Kids who are smarter and learn faster will learn more in fewer hours. There is a point of diminishing return. Also, kids need to be involved in a variety of activities other than academics. Time to just play is important to the healthy growth and development of children.

[Anonymous]

Kids are different. Their circumstances are different. Lets not start a pissing match here. There are prep classes available for magnet tests, but they are not a sure mean for success.

[Anonymous]

Ignorance abounds. What does one expect with such deep critical thinking skills on display?

Are you mentally critically ill ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A typical student could not handle the magnet curriculum. In addition, even the magnet students are forced to choose between Eastern and Takoma.

Why not? Do you believe only Asians in MCPS can handle this curriculum? Nonsense.

If you go to any regular classroom in MCPS there are a range of student abilities. Many students are struggling. Most students do not fit the profile of the magnet students. If you visit a magnet classroom, you will see a difference, not just in the curriculum but in the students.

[Anonymous]

If you go to any regular classroom in MCPS there are a range of student abilities. Many students are struggling. Most students do not fit the profile of the magnet students. If you visit a magnet classroom, you will see a difference, not just in the curriculum but in the students.

This has absolutely nothing to do with excellent teachers, instruction, and a curriculum! Dumbing down teachers, instruction, and the curriculum is not the panacea for educating our young children during their formative years with a challenging program!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If you go to any regular classroom in MCPS there are a range of student abilities. Many students are struggling. Most students do not fit the profile of the magnet students. If you visit a magnet classroom, you will see a difference, not just in the curriculum but in the students.

This has absolutely nothing to do with excellent teachers, instruction, and a curriculum! Dumbing down teachers, instruction, and the curriculum is not the panacea for educating our young children during their formative years with a challenging program!

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have contact information or websites for Dr. Tchevenkov or Dr. Bluestein? Thank you!

[Anonymous]

There is no reason to take a class. Your child can prep on his or her own.