What exactly is Chechyna'a beef with the USA?

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From what I have seen of the family members, they all seem ready to blame others for their problems. I guess that is human nature-but they seem particularly rabid.


And the parents come from a region of the world that , since the days of Stalin, has been repeatedly subjected to severe social trauma:
1) mass deportation based on ethnicity
2) staravation based on ethnicity
3) loss of property based on ethnicity
4) full brunt of Russian military attack from mid-1990's onward

In such societies,survival skills are taught at home, both implicityly and by observation. Such societies are full people who, to survive form beneficial alliances when the normal stable social contract breaks down , such as :becoming informants and collaberators, or finding shelter/ and financial means of support in criminal mafia networks, or in joing rebel groups.

This is the "social soup" of the Grozny, Dagestan, former Soviet Socialist republics over teh last 80 years. Don't like the Russian mafia, thank Stalin and the communist movement in general.

These boys are the fruit of that, there actions do not fall far from the tree and I agree on the family, duplicitous individuals all, imho.

I think you are making an unnecessarily sweeping statement. Yes, Chechens have been subjected to lots and lots of traumatic events. Yet many of them somehow emerged out of it as productive members of society. There's lots of prominent Chechen athletes, businessmen, academics etc. I will never agree with your statement that all of them are the same duplicitous survivalist with no rules.

Try reading more carefully, " full of" does not constitute " all" .

moving on.....

[Anonymous]

Hey Jeff, does this interview Tamerlan's wife gave to NPR shed light on your quesyions about just where Tamerlan was getting his cash flow:

NPR's Laura Sullivan reported Friday on an interview with unnamed women she described as Russell's close friends and college roommates.
"They described Tamerlan as very controlling and very manipulative of their friend," Sullivan said. "They say he was combative and angry. He would often call (Russell) names and insult her. He would call her a slut and a prostitute, and they remember fights that they would get into where he would fly into rages and sometimes throw furniture or throw things."

Russell dropped out of school after she became pregnant in her senior year, the women told Sullivan. "They say that she really pulled away from her friends, that she cut off contact with them, and she also cut off contact with her family members which her friends had been in contact with," she reported.

Couple lived apart
Russell was born and raised a Christian, but she converted to Islam after marrying Tsarnaev. She's an observant Muslim and wears a headscarf, her lawyer said.
Katy -- that's what family and friends call her -- lives with her parents in North Kingstown, Rhode Island, and works as a home health aide, he said. "She worked many, many hours."
Their daughter lived with her husband because she worked seven days a week, he said.
"She would go off in the morning, she would work 'til late at night," he said. "She called to see how her daughter was and that kind of stuff, like any person would."

How many hours do you have to work as a home health aid at $12 to pay your husband's credit card bills, Jeff ? Would 16 hour shifts, 7 days a week do it ? Overtime anyone ?

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:For all of you who laughed at my "brain damaged by boxing" theory:

http://www.boston.com/sports/marathon/2013/04/20/researchers-urge-special-brain-autopsy-bombing-suspect/UoZExTff0K4olSTyIV5WGL/story.html

Researchers urge brain autopsy of bombing suspect

Two pioneering researchers of brain disease among athletes in violent sports recommended Saturday that investigators conduct special autopsy tests on amateur boxer Tamerlan Tsarnaev to determine whether the Boston Marathon bombing suspect could have been affected by boxing-related brain damage.

There is going to be a lot of spin to try and turn this away from what it really is. The more his background is dug into, the more it points toward his motive being Jihad, acting as a radical. We are not laughing at your boxing theory; we are laughing at the lengths in which some will go to avoid the facts. This type of bend-over-backwards liberalism is going to be the ultimate downfall of this country. We MUST be willing to see things for what they are, when those occasions arise, to survive.

What is hilarious is to watch liberals act as apologists for one of the most illiberal belief systems on the planet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:For all of you who laughed at my "brain damaged by boxing" theory:

http://www.boston.com/sports/marathon/2013/04/20/researchers-urge-special-brain-autopsy-bombing-suspect/UoZExTff0K4olSTyIV5WGL/story.html

Researchers urge brain autopsy of bombing suspect

Two pioneering researchers of brain disease among athletes in violent sports recommended Saturday that investigators conduct special autopsy tests on amateur boxer Tamerlan Tsarnaev to determine whether the Boston Marathon bombing suspect could have been affected by boxing-related brain damage.

There is going to be a lot of spin to try and turn this away from what it really is. The more his background is dug into, the more it points toward his motive being Jihad, acting as a radical. We are not laughing at your boxing theory; we are laughing at the lengths in which some will go to avoid the facts. This type of bend-over-backwards liberalism is going to be the ultimate downfall of this country. We MUST be willing to see things for what they are, when those occasions arise, to survive.

What is hilarious is to watch liberals act as apologists for one of the most illiberal belief systems on the planet.

Right, but all of the right wing shooters have mental issues. Typical conservative double standard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:For all of you who laughed at my "brain damaged by boxing" theory:

http://www.boston.com/sports/marathon/2013/04/20/researchers-urge-special-brain-autopsy-bombing-suspect/UoZExTff0K4olSTyIV5WGL/story.html

Researchers urge brain autopsy of bombing suspect

Two pioneering researchers of brain disease among athletes in violent sports recommended Saturday that investigators conduct special autopsy tests on amateur boxer Tamerlan Tsarnaev to determine whether the Boston Marathon bombing suspect could have been affected by boxing-related brain damage.

There is going to be a lot of spin to try and turn this away from what it really is. The more his background is dug into, the more it points toward his motive being Jihad, acting as a radical. We are not laughing at your boxing theory; we are laughing at the lengths in which some will go to avoid the facts. This type of bend-over-backwards liberalism is going to be the ultimate downfall of this country. We MUST be willing to see things for what they are, when those occasions arise, to survive.

What is hilarious is to watch liberals act as apologists for one of the most illiberal belief systems on the planet.

Right, but all of the right wing shooters have mental issues. Typical conservative double standard.

Huh? I'm unaware of any "right wing shooters" who had any mental issues, but keep pumping out those straw men! Or maybe you can try a false equivalency next!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:For all of you who laughed at my "brain damaged by boxing" theory:

http://www.boston.com/sports/marathon/2013/04/20/researchers-urge-special-brain-autopsy-bombing-suspect/UoZExTff0K4olSTyIV5WGL/story.html

Researchers urge brain autopsy of bombing suspect

Two pioneering researchers of brain disease among athletes in violent sports recommended Saturday that investigators conduct special autopsy tests on amateur boxer Tamerlan Tsarnaev to determine whether the Boston Marathon bombing suspect could have been affected by boxing-related brain damage.

There is going to be a lot of spin to try and turn this away from what it really is. The more his background is dug into, the more it points toward his motive being Jihad, acting as a radical. We are not laughing at your boxing theory; we are laughing at the lengths in which some will go to avoid the facts. This type of bend-over-backwards liberalism is going to be the ultimate downfall of this country. We MUST be willing to see things for what they are, when those occasions arise, to survive.

What is hilarious is to watch liberals act as apologists for one of the most illiberal belief systems on the planet.

Right, but all of the right wing shooters have mental issues. Typical conservative double standard.

Huh? I'm unaware of any "right wing shooters" who had any mental issues, but keep pumping out those straw men! Or maybe you can try a false equivalency next!

Holocaust museum shooter, for example? Giffords shooter?

[Anonymous]

Sikh temple shooter? Why isn't he a christian terrorist?

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:For all of you who laughed at my "brain damaged by boxing" theory:

http://www.boston.com/sports/marathon/2013/04/20/researchers-urge-special-brain-autopsy-bombing-suspect/UoZExTff0K4olSTyIV5WGL/story.html

Researchers urge brain autopsy of bombing suspect

Two pioneering researchers of brain disease among athletes in violent sports recommended Saturday that investigators conduct special autopsy tests on amateur boxer Tamerlan Tsarnaev to determine whether the Boston Marathon bombing suspect could have been affected by boxing-related brain damage.

There is going to be a lot of spin to try and turn this away from what it really is. The more his background is dug into, the more it points toward his motive being Jihad, acting as a radical. We are not laughing at your boxing theory; we are laughing at the lengths in which some will go to avoid the facts. This type of bend-over-backwards liberalism is going to be the ultimate downfall of this country. We MUST be willing to see things for what they are, when those occasions arise, to survive.

What is hilarious is to watch liberals act as apologists for one of the most illiberal belief systems on the planet.

Right, but all of the right wing shooters have mental issues. Typical conservative double standard.

Huh? I'm unaware of any "right wing shooters" who had any mental issues, but keep pumping out those straw men! Or maybe you can try a false equivalency next!

Holocaust museum shooter, for example? Giffords shooter?

The Giffords dude was a not crazy "right wing shooter"? LOL That says more about your own mental processes than anything else. Holocaust museum and Sikh temple guys fully qualify as not crazy evil shits, just like the Tsarnaev brothers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:For all of you who laughed at my "brain damaged by boxing" theory:

http://www.boston.com/sports/marathon/2013/04/20/researchers-urge-special-brain-autopsy-bombing-suspect/UoZExTff0K4olSTyIV5WGL/story.html

Researchers urge brain autopsy of bombing suspect

Two pioneering researchers of brain disease among athletes in violent sports recommended Saturday that investigators conduct special autopsy tests on amateur boxer Tamerlan Tsarnaev to determine whether the Boston Marathon bombing suspect could have been affected by boxing-related brain damage.

There is going to be a lot of spin to try and turn this away from what it really is. The more his background is dug into, the more it points toward his motive being Jihad, acting as a radical. We are not laughing at your boxing theory; we are laughing at the lengths in which some will go to avoid the facts. This type of bend-over-backwards liberalism is going to be the ultimate downfall of this country. We MUST be willing to see things for what they are, when those occasions arise, to survive.

What is hilarious is to watch liberals act as apologists for one of the most illiberal belief systems on the planet.

Right, but all of the right wing shooters have mental issues. Typical conservative double standard.

Huh? I'm unaware of any "right wing shooters" who had any mental issues, but keep pumping out those straw men! Or maybe you can try a false equivalency next!

Holocaust museum shooter, for example? Giffords shooter?

The Giffords dude was a not crazy "right wing shooter"? LOL That says more about your own mental processes than anything else. Holocaust museum and Sikh temple guys fully qualify as not crazy evil shits, just like the Tsarnaev brothers.

Uh of course he was. You forgot your point there.

Nice to hear conservatives your tune on the others.