What exactly is Chechyna'a beef with the USA?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:why dont you all wait until we get more info?

you guys are no different than john king or cnn. give the shit a rest.

you cant and wont figure one thing out looking at a person youtube page and pics.

some of you are pathetic.i googled islam, and muslim a few weeks ago, why dont you assume i work for some sleeper cell?
+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslim extremists don't just come from the giant sandbox.


What information to you have that they are Muslim extremists?


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-posted-video-al-qaeda-prophecy-youtube


Not "proof" just evidence of an emerging profile of the bombers (draw your own conclusions):

-Apparently someone managed to save a few pics and quotes from the older (dead) bomber's social media pages.

One alleged quote under a pic of him and his girlfriend at the boxing gym: " Tamerlan says his girlfriend is half Portuguese, half Italian girlfriend and converted to Islam: "She's beautiful, man!"

Another alleged post shows him without his shirt over the quote along the lines of "Tamerlan says he doesn't usually take his shirt off so girls don't get bad ideas: "I'm very religious." "

No religious Muslim would have girlfriends. . . .


-they would have girlfriends - if the girlfriend converted to Ialam: look at this photo album. click on pics for quotes:


http://johanneshirn.photoshelter.com/gallery/Will-Box-For-Passport/G0000VQW7v6xWA7o/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why dont you all wait until we get more info?

you guys are no different than john king or cnn. give the shit a rest.

you cant and wont figure one thing out looking at a person youtube page and pics.

some of you are pathetic.i googled islam, and muslim a few weeks ago, why dont you assume i work for some sleeper cell?
+1


And what exactly is wrong with CNN? You give it a rest. OP posted this seeking info. Try adding something constructive instead of just insulting people.
Anonymous
Say goodnight to amnesty. Boston people shut in their homes not allowed to come out the door with no guns is so liberal!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslim extremists don't just come from the giant sandbox.


What information to you have that they are Muslim extremists?


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-posted-video-al-qaeda-prophecy-youtube


Not "proof" just evidence of an emerging profile of the bombers (draw your own conclusions):

-Apparently someone managed to save a few pics and quotes from the older (dead) bomber's social media pages.

One alleged quote under a pic of him and his girlfriend at the boxing gym: " Tamerlan says his girlfriend is half Portuguese, half Italian girlfriend and converted to Islam: "She's beautiful, man!"

Another alleged post shows him without his shirt over the quote along the lines of "Tamerlan says he doesn't usually take his shirt off so girls don't get bad ideas: "I'm very religious." "

No religious Muslim would have girlfriends. . . .


-they would have girlfriends - if the girlfriend converted to Ialam: look at this photo album. click on pics for quotes:


http://johanneshirn.photoshelter.com/gallery/Will-Box-For-Passport/G0000VQW7v6xWA7o/

You don't know anything about Islam. Religious Muslims do not have girlfriends, converts or not. It doesn't matter what he says; if he had a girlfriend, he cannot be a religious Muslim, as Islam - not himself - defines it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why dont you all wait until we get more info?

you guys are no different than john king or cnn. give the shit a rest.

you cant and wont figure one thing out looking at a person youtube page and pics.

some of you are pathetic.i googled islam, and muslim a few weeks ago, why dont you assume i work for some sleeper cell?
+1


And what exactly is wrong with CNN? You give it a rest. OP posted this seeking info. Try adding something constructive instead of just insulting people.


thats interesting because i have no info to add something constructive. everyone is reporting on anything they find on these guys in real time without really filtering it.

i would be a fool to begin to think i have anything to add based on the same exact information you are looking at.

but hey, maybe you are such a pro at this in that you can piece all this internet shit together and figure out the motivation of these guys better than the authorities who are probably pouring through more info then youll ever care to rummage through.

you got it buddy!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Say goodnight to amnesty. Boston people shut in their homes not allowed to come out the door with no guns is so liberal!!!!


Finally another voice of reason.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why dont you all wait until we get more info?

you guys are no different than john king or cnn. give the shit a rest.

you cant and wont figure one thing out looking at a person youtube page and pics.

some of you are pathetic.i googled islam, and muslim a few weeks ago, why dont you assume i work for some sleeper cell?
+1


And what exactly is wrong with CNN? You give it a rest. OP posted this seeking info. Try adding something constructive instead of just insulting people.


thats interesting because i have no info to add something constructive. everyone is reporting on anything they find on these guys in real time without really filtering it.

i would be a fool to begin to think i have anything to add based on the same exact information you are looking at.

but hey, maybe you are such a pro at this in that you can piece all this internet shit together and figure out the motivation of these guys better than the authorities who are probably pouring through more info then youll ever care to rummage through.

you got it buddy!


You are right; we need a "filter" (spin?) on this information provided by, er, by - who exactly? (apparently CNN is now suspect according to this site). Us pe-ons certainly can't draw even the most simple of conclusions.

Now let's all stick our heads in the sand and sing "Kum Bah Ya" until the "official script" is read to us (by who again exactly?).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslim extremists don't just come from the giant sandbox.


What information to you have that they are Muslim extremists?


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-posted-video-al-qaeda-prophecy-youtube


Not "proof" just evidence of an emerging profile of the bombers (draw your own conclusions):

-Apparently someone managed to save a few pics and quotes from the older (dead) bomber's social media pages.

One alleged quote under a pic of him and his girlfriend at the boxing gym: " Tamerlan says his girlfriend is half Portuguese, half Italian girlfriend and converted to Islam: "She's beautiful, man!"

Another alleged post shows him without his shirt over the quote along the lines of "Tamerlan says he doesn't usually take his shirt off so girls don't get bad ideas: "I'm very religious." "


Being very religious is a good thing.

They posted that they had no friends. They could easily be misfit youth who happened to be Muslim.
Anonymous
I agree with Jeff and others that there is no reason to assume that the Tsaernevs have Chechnyan sympathies.

However, it seems that genuine Chechnyans have a beef against the US because we have not intervened in Syria.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslim extremists don't just come from the giant sandbox.


What information to you have that they are Muslim extremists?


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-posted-video-al-qaeda-prophecy-youtube


Not "proof" just evidence of an emerging profile of the bombers (draw your own conclusions):

-Apparently someone managed to save a few pics and quotes from the older (dead) bomber's social media pages.

One alleged quote under a pic of him and his girlfriend at the boxing gym: " Tamerlan says his girlfriend is half Portuguese, half Italian girlfriend and converted to Islam: "She's beautiful, man!"

Another alleged post shows him without his shirt over the quote along the lines of "Tamerlan says he doesn't usually take his shirt off so girls don't get bad ideas: "I'm very religious." "


Being very religious is a good thing.

They posted that they had no friends. They could easily be misfit youth who happened to be Muslim.


This is my belief as well. No really religious Muslim would have a girlfriend, and be touching his girlfriend like that. "Religious" means different things to different people, and people who identify as "Muslim" is a very broad spectrum.

These seem like angry youth to me. More like the Columbine kids, who might mesh a variety of angst into their agenda, but are more acting out some personal vendettas rather than for some kind of a cause or specific ideology.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I agree with Jeff and others that there is no reason to assume that the Tsaernevs have Chechnyan sympathies.

However, it seems that genuine Chechnyans have a beef against the US because we have not intervened in Syria.

Both things you say are incorrect and borderline ridiculous. The brothers are beyond doubt ethnic Chechens. Learn at least how to spell something before you opine on it.

Chechens have no connection to Syria and U.S. non-intervention in Syria doesn't even register on the total of Chechen discourse. It's like saying they were angry at the U.S. for not airlifting tsunami victims.

Chechens ARE at some level angry at Russia for the devastation both wars have caused. Connecting this to the U.S. is a work of a twisted mind.

My read on this is that these were two angry guys who did not fit well into their new country, were interested in radical Islam where they could have felt they found a home and answers, and acted on whatever they felt is the right thing to do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why dont you all wait until we get more info?

you guys are no different than john king or cnn. give the shit a rest.

you cant and wont figure one thing out looking at a person youtube page and pics.

some of you are pathetic.i googled islam, and muslim a few weeks ago, why dont you assume i work for some sleeper cell?
+1


And what exactly is wrong with CNN? You give it a rest. OP posted this seeking info. Try adding something constructive instead of just insulting people.


thats interesting because i have no info to add something constructive. everyone is reporting on anything they find on these guys in real time without really filtering it.

i would be a fool to begin to think i have anything to add based on the same exact information you are looking at.

but hey, maybe you are such a pro at this in that you can piece all this internet shit together and figure out the motivation of these guys better than the authorities who are probably pouring through more info then youll ever care to rummage through.

you got it buddy!


You are right; we need a "filter" (spin?) on this information provided by, er, by - who exactly? (apparently CNN is now suspect according to this site). Us pe-ons certainly can't draw even the most simple of conclusions.

Now let's all stick our heads in the sand and sing "Kum Bah Ya" until the "official script" is read to us (by who again exactly?).



im actually more suggesting that once we can confirm information about these people, we can begin all the connecting the dots. until then, you know nothing more than me right now. i can speculate that they were bummed because they didnt get a chance to run the race last year and this was there revenge. how is that any more credible than anything you have to throw out there to us?

also, im suppose to obtain my information from you and the peanut gallery about this guys religion, motives, and so forth? theres so much bullshit and nonsense said in this forum specifically, that id be a fool to do so.

bad enough i have to filter the bullshit said in here to get one reasonable piece of original thought, that im suppose to have the amateur hour crowd spending thread topics on obama's vacations to give me reliable information about these suspects.

ok.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslim extremists don't just come from the giant sandbox.


What information to you have that they are Muslim extremists?


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-posted-video-al-qaeda-prophecy-youtube


Not "proof" just evidence of an emerging profile of the bombers (draw your own conclusions):

-Apparently someone managed to save a few pics and quotes from the older (dead) bomber's social media pages.

One alleged quote under a pic of him and his girlfriend at the boxing gym: " Tamerlan says his girlfriend is half Portuguese, half Italian girlfriend and converted to Islam: "She's beautiful, man!"

Another alleged post shows him without his shirt over the quote along the lines of "Tamerlan says he doesn't usually take his shirt off so girls don't get bad ideas: "I'm very religious." "


Being very religious is a good thing.

They posted that they had no friends. They could easily be misfit youth who happened to be Muslim.


Wrong. You mis-quoted what the suspect actually stated (according to multiple sources) What he actually typed was: "
“I don’t have a single American friend,” Tamerlan says in one of the photo captions. “I don’t understand them.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/report-boston-bombings-suspects-abroad-90323.html#ixzz2QvGdQZYn

The possibility of mere "misfit youth" is not supported by the facts. He never said he did not have friends. He only stated that he did not have any AMERICAN friends. Then he clarified "I do not understand them [Americans]." Those are not the statements of a mere misfit. They are the statements of someone who apparently hates America.

I wonder if the bomber's professed faith bears any connection in this case? What are the chances? Mere coincidence?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: . . . . i can speculate that they were bummed because they didnt get a chance to run the race last year and this was there revenge.. . .


That's not borderline ridiculous; it IS ridiculous!
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