Who gets the rooms by the elevator? |
The new arrivals. After they get settled in, they get to move away fron the elevators and close to the executive suite. |
Goes back to those nativist sentiments and anti-Cstholic tropes of yesteryear. However, the worst offenders have been the evangelical Protestsnts who, until recently have tried and failed to make poliical common cause with Catholics. Ever read a Jack Chick tract? Those are hate tracts pure and simple. So, no, it is not OK to bash Catholics any more than it is to bash and ridicule other religious groups. The Church as a human institution made up of human beings is subject t to all the faults of the poor, fallen apes that we are and is very much subject to the criticism of any other institution. |
My money says this is a non-Christian or atheist. |
Money? |
When I first became an Episcopalian years ago, a friend facetiously told me that I had joined the best church that money could buy.” In fact, another wag observed that the Episcopal Church is the Cadillac of American Christianity’’ and the ‘‘Chevis Regal of Protestantism.’’ These attempts at humor, based on social and intellectual snobbery, have grown a bit stale in the ensuing years, as the stately and venerable American version of the Church of England has experienced wide-spread decline in numbers, theological conviction, and social and political influence. The church that once was called “the Republican Party at prayer” has now become little more than a coalition of special interests and would probably be more accurately termed the “Democratic Convention in 1988 at prayer.” With bishops who declare the Bible to be little more than the prejudices of a group of misogynist, homophobic males, the Apostle Paul to have been nothing but a frustrated homosexual, and the Resurrection of Jesus Christ to be nothing but the rattling of old bones, it is little wonder that the Episcopal Church in the United States has lost over a million members since 1970. As if these “profound theological insights” were not enough, the American branch of Anglicanism now has liturgies for the marriage of two persons of the same gender and refuses to expect clergy to live morally pure lives. This sad state of affairs has prompted some Episcopalians to seek a safe harbor outside the Anglican Communion in which to live out their faith. Not surprisingly, some have elected to leave the denomination for other more conservative, Protestant groups. Still others have ‘‘swam the Tiber’’ for membership in the Roman Catholic Church. A few others have formed “independent Episcopal” congregations, and yet more have formed new ‘‘Anglican Churches’’ that are in communion with neither Canterbury or the Episcopal Church in the U.S.A. Sadly, some have simply dropped their practice of the faith altogether. Fortunately, however, an increasing number of Episcopalians have looked to the historic Church of Christ known as the Eastern Orthodox Church as a place of refuge. Infact, many Episcopalians, especially those who come out of Anglo-Catholic backgrounds, were taught that the church catholic exists in three historicbranches: Roman Catholicism, Anglicanism, and Eastern Orthodoxy. You can read more here: http://www.antiochian.org/Orthodox_Church_Who_What_Where_Why/Why_In_The_World_Would_An_Episcopalian_Become_Orthodox.htm |
Refers to a bet |
By "bishops" you mean Spong, who was so far outside Episcopal theology that he had to step down from his post. I'm sorry you find the Eoiscopal Church's inclusion of women and gays to be "Democratic Convention of 1988." To me it represents Jesus' real message, Jesus' own inclusion of women and the pariahs of his time. |
| So, you think it OK that the Episcopal Church would condone its clergy living in sin, i.e. I think I read somewhere they have no issued with unmarried clergy have pre-marital sex. |
| I also think I read somewhere that the Episcopal Church was questioning the physical resurrection of Christ, which if it rejected this would not make it a Christian Church. |
You "think you read somewhere" that some undefined entity you're calling the official Episcopal church thinks this or that? Please, stop trolling. |
| Not trolling, I do think I read somewhere that the truth of the resurrection is not a core belief to Episcopalians, while the both the divinity and humanity of Christ and the Trinity are. If I am wrong, I will stand corrected. I do not suffer the sin of pride. |
You are correct. Episcopalians and other liberal Christian denominations, including some Roman Catholics, accept the mythical resurrection - in other words - the concept that there is value in starting anew - however that plays out for the individual; THey also don't care about the vigin birth or other miracles of the Bible. These are seen as stories that don't have to be factual to have realigious value. |
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Episcopalianism is a credal religion--that is, everything you need to believe to be an Episcopalian is contained in the creed, in this case the Nicene Creed. This includes the following:
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures |
Sounds very similar to the Catholic Apostle's Creed. |