Why is it ok to bash Catholics?

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Anonymous wrote:More people have been murdered by atheistic and anti-Christian regimes than by the Church,

Wow -- what a great (even if undocumented) claim! "Not #1 in murder." Congrats to the Church, whose savior is a humble carpenter who preached love and compassion.

Stalin, Mao....

Here's to the Catholic church -- not as evil as the despots Stalin and Mao

Not that PP, but is twisting her point the only retort you have? Why don't you try to defend your fellow atheists, Stalin and Zmao? Or can't you?

They are not fellow atheists. They are despots, irrespective of religion. - Their actions against humanity, which were not done in the name of their religious views, can't be defended.

No.

It was part of their atheism.

Atheist despots are evil to promote their own ends. Religious despots do it for the Glory of God - and with God's blessing, at least in their minds. It's hard to know if God actually approves of despotism, because he doesn't speak out about it. But if a Christian despot wins, they assume that is God's way of voicing his approval.

Why are you afraid to give more than 9 words to the atheist despots? Why are you afraid to acknowledge that religious despots (you clearly have a chip on your shoulder about Christians, but this applies to all religions) are almost always going against the tenets of their own religions?

Any despot is going against basic human decency. The difference with religious despotism is that the despot uses God as an excuse for bad behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is something about the Catholic attitude that isn't inclusive or open and that's what I find off-putting. There is more "my way or the highway" than in other religions -- and I am just talking about my first-hand experience as a non-Catholic who married a Catholic. I didn't have this view until I went through the intrusive pre-Cana process, met with the priest, etc.

Not Catholic but I do not agree with this. At least they do not have this attitude that they are all saved and going to heaven because they are so special.

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Anonymous wrote:There is something about the Catholic attitude that isn't inclusive or open and that's what I find off-putting. There is more "my way or the highway" than in other religions -- and I am just talking about my first-hand experience as a non-Catholic who married a Catholic. I didn't have this view until I went through the intrusive pre-Cana process, met with the priest, etc.

Not Catholic but I do not agree with this. At least they do not have this attitude that they are all saved and going to heaven because they are so special.

Catholics are "saved" by continuously following the catechism of the church -- i.e., following the rules on a regular basis. It's not a one-time "being saved" as it is for some Protestants.

If Catholics die in a state of grace, they will go to heaven. If not, they go to purgatory and if they have people on earth to pray them out or buy them out with indulgences, they'll get to heaven faster than if no one is helping them out here on earth.

[Anonymous]

Why is it ok to bash Catholics? Because DCUM has a fair number of boors and angry loners. They find an outlet going after the Catholics because the moderator polices bigotry against other religions but not against Catholicss. So it's pretty much open season on Catholics and they get the brunt of everybody's trolling and everybody's need to channel/transfer their frustrations from their own less-than-happy personal lives.

Sort of like a funnel that takes all the bigotted and socially maladjusted posters and concentrates them into a single jar.

Signed, not a Catholic

[Anonymous]

I am a Catholic and actually don't agree with this. I have reported anti-Catholic posts to the moderator, and they have been removed.

Admittedly though, I do not report until it's gone pretty far. In one case it took the posting of of a semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest (actually pornographic if you factor out that it was in cartoon form) to move me to report.

Aside: Interesting that the only pornographic jpegs I've seen posted on DCUM attack either Catholicism or Islam. The posters seem to think the Islam ones will be reported much quicker than Catholic ones so those only get posted after midnight when there is confidence the moderator is safely asleep. Not so careful with timing on the Catholic ones. I report them all immediately.

I think my reluctance to report until it really goes too far is shared by many of my fellow Catholics. The moderator has said as much--he simply doesn't get the complaints he does with the Islam bashing posts. One of the reasons for this I think is that Catholics are inclined to give inquiries about the faith the benefit of the doubt and do not immediately ascribe malign motives, even where ascribing them would be more than justified. We tend to see answering them as a call to explain our faith.

Also, many of us are from an ethnic group that values its self-deprecating humor and so we tend to be pretty good sports about the attacks.

The combination of these two ends with us giving Catholic bashers a lot of rope to play with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic and actually don't agree with this. I have reported anti-Catholic posts to the moderator, and they have been removed.

Admittedly though, I do not report until it's gone pretty far. In one case it took the posting of of a semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest (actually pornographic if you factor out that it was in cartoon form) to move me to report.

Aside: Interesting that the only pornographic jpegs I've seen posted on DCUM attack either Catholicism or Islam. The posters seem to think the Islam ones will be reported much quicker than Catholic ones so those only get posted after midnight when there is confidence the moderator is safely asleep. Not so careful with timing on the Catholic ones. I report them all immediately.

I think my reluctance to report until it really goes too far is shared by many of my fellow Catholics. The moderator has said as much--he simply doesn't get the complaints he does with the Islam bashing posts. One of the reasons for this I think is that Catholics are inclined to give inquiries about the faith the benefit of the doubt and do not immediately ascribe malign motives, even where ascribing them would be more than justified. We tend to see answering them as a call to explain our faith.

Also, many of us are from an ethnic group that values its self-deprecating humor and so we tend to be pretty good sports about the attacks.

The combination of these two ends with us giving Catholic bashers a lot of rope to play with.

It is sad that when I read your phrase "semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest", my gut reaction is, was the cartoon based on actual events from real life?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic and actually don't agree with this. I have reported anti-Catholic posts to the moderator, and they have been removed.

Admittedly though, I do not report until it's gone pretty far. In one case it took the posting of of a semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest (actually pornographic if you factor out that it was in cartoon form) to move me to report.

Aside: Interesting that the only pornographic jpegs I've seen posted on DCUM attack either Catholicism or Islam. The posters seem to think the Islam ones will be reported much quicker than Catholic ones so those only get posted after midnight when there is confidence the moderator is safely asleep. Not so careful with timing on the Catholic ones. I report them all immediately.

I think my reluctance to report until it really goes too far is shared by many of my fellow Catholics. The moderator has said as much--he simply doesn't get the complaints he does with the Islam bashing posts. One of the reasons for this I think is that Catholics are inclined to give inquiries about the faith the benefit of the doubt and do not immediately ascribe malign motives, even where ascribing them would be more than justified. We tend to see answering them as a call to explain our faith.

Also, many of us are from an ethnic group that values its self-deprecating humor and so we tend to be pretty good sports about the attacks.

The combination of these two ends with us giving Catholic bashers a lot of rope to play with.

It is sad that when I read your phrase "semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest", my gut reaction is, was the cartoon based on actual events from real life?

Different pp. What's sad is your immaturity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic and actually don't agree with this. I have reported anti-Catholic posts to the moderator, and they have been removed.

Admittedly though, I do not report until it's gone pretty far. In one case it took the posting of of a semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest (actually pornographic if you factor out that it was in cartoon form) to move me to report.

Aside: Interesting that the only pornographic jpegs I've seen posted on DCUM attack either Catholicism or Islam. The posters seem to think the Islam ones will be reported much quicker than Catholic ones so those only get posted after midnight when there is confidence the moderator is safely asleep. Not so careful with timing on the Catholic ones. I report them all immediately.

I think my reluctance to report until it really goes too far is shared by many of my fellow Catholics. The moderator has said as much--he simply doesn't get the complaints he does with the Islam bashing posts. One of the reasons for this I think is that Catholics are inclined to give inquiries about the faith the benefit of the doubt and do not immediately ascribe malign motives, even where ascribing them would be more than justified. We tend to see answering them as a call to explain our faith.

Also, many of us are from an ethnic group that values its self-deprecating humor and so we tend to be pretty good sports about the attacks.

The combination of these two ends with us giving Catholic bashers a lot of rope to play with.

It is sad that when I read your phrase "semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest", my gut reaction is, was the cartoon based on actual events from real life?

Jpeg PP here. Just as much as the ones featuring Mohammed. That is, not at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic and actually don't agree with this. I have reported anti-Catholic posts to the moderator, and they have been removed.

Admittedly though, I do not report until it's gone pretty far. In one case it took the posting of of a semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest (actually pornographic if you factor out that it was in cartoon form) to move me to report.

Aside: Interesting that the only pornographic jpegs I've seen posted on DCUM attack either Catholicism or Islam. The posters seem to think the Islam ones will be reported much quicker than Catholic ones so those only get posted after midnight when there is confidence the moderator is safely asleep. Not so careful with timing on the Catholic ones. I report them all immediately.

I think my reluctance to report until it really goes too far is shared by many of my fellow Catholics. The moderator has said as much--he simply doesn't get the complaints he does with the Islam bashing posts. One of the reasons for this I think is that Catholics are inclined to give inquiries about the faith the benefit of the doubt and do not immediately ascribe malign motives, even where ascribing them would be more than justified. We tend to see answering them as a call to explain our faith.

Also, many of us are from an ethnic group that values its self-deprecating humor and so we tend to be pretty good sports about the attacks.

The combination of these two ends with us giving Catholic bashers a lot of rope to play with.

It is sad that when I read your phrase "semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest", my gut reaction is, was the cartoon based on actual events from real life?

Jpeg PP here. Just as much as the ones featuring Mohammed. That is, not at all.

Except mocking Catholics gets you ignored by Catholics and the moderator alike. Whereas mocking Islam gets you banned by the moderator and worse from fundamentalists.

And this is the answer to why Catholics get bashed more than other problematic religions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic and actually don't agree with this. I have reported anti-Catholic posts to the moderator, and they have been removed.

Admittedly though, I do not report until it's gone pretty far. In one case it took the posting of of a semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest (actually pornographic if you factor out that it was in cartoon form) to move me to report.

Aside: Interesting that the only pornographic jpegs I've seen posted on DCUM attack either Catholicism or Islam. The posters seem to think the Islam ones will be reported much quicker than Catholic ones so those only get posted after midnight when there is confidence the moderator is safely asleep. Not so careful with timing on the Catholic ones. I report them all immediately.

I think my reluctance to report until it really goes too far is shared by many of my fellow Catholics. The moderator has said as much--he simply doesn't get the complaints he does with the Islam bashing posts. One of the reasons for this I think is that Catholics are inclined to give inquiries about the faith the benefit of the doubt and do not immediately ascribe malign motives, even where ascribing them would be more than justified. We tend to see answering them as a call to explain our faith.

Also, many of us are from an ethnic group that values its self-deprecating humor and so we tend to be pretty good sports about the attacks.

The combination of these two ends with us giving Catholic bashers a lot of rope to play with.

It is sad that when I read your phrase "semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest", my gut reaction is, was the cartoon based on actual events from real life?

It's sad b/c it's based on actual events.

Catholics will chime in, claiming that pedophilia is everywhere - in other religions, in public organizations where sickos can find kids.

While I don't disagree with that, I will say that the Catholic church had basically "institutionalized" this practice by hiding its priests. So there was a process built into the church in order to keep its image clean . . . until, that is, people started to speak out and connect.

How ANY person can still embrace the church's religious doctrine baffles me. People FORGIVE the church for allowing it to RAPE innocent children.

I'd like to see how you'd react - as a parent - if you found out your child or your child's friend had been abused by the clergy. How many parents would forgive that?

It's all about hypocrisy, people. The church is about connections and wanting to be a part of community. As long as this mess doesn't touch me directly, it's all good.

- ex-Catholic and better off for it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic and actually don't agree with this. I have reported anti-Catholic posts to the moderator, and they have been removed.

Admittedly though, I do not report until it's gone pretty far. In one case it took the posting of of a semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest (actually pornographic if you factor out that it was in cartoon form) to move me to report.

Aside: Interesting that the only pornographic jpegs I've seen posted on DCUM attack either Catholicism or Islam. The posters seem to think the Islam ones will be reported much quicker than Catholic ones so those only get posted after midnight when there is confidence the moderator is safely asleep. Not so careful with timing on the Catholic ones. I report them all immediately.

I think my reluctance to report until it really goes too far is shared by many of my fellow Catholics. The moderator has said as much--he simply doesn't get the complaints he does with the Islam bashing posts. One of the reasons for this I think is that Catholics are inclined to give inquiries about the faith the benefit of the doubt and do not immediately ascribe malign motives, even where ascribing them would be more than justified. We tend to see answering them as a call to explain our faith.

Also, many of us are from an ethnic group that values its self-deprecating humor and so we tend to be pretty good sports about the attacks.

The combination of these two ends with us giving Catholic bashers a lot of rope to play with.

It is sad that when I read your phrase "semi-pornographic jpeg featuring a Catholic priest", my gut reaction is, was the cartoon based on actual events from real life?

Different pp. What's sad is your immaturity.

How is that an immature response?

This will be removed, I'm sure, b/c it's truthful.

[Anonymous]

Nothing wrong with that cartoon.

As my grandmother used to say, priests are servants of the Church. And good help is hard to find.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I have never met a Catholic I didn't like. 8) There are TONS of problems with the church, doctrine, and leadership, but the Catholics I've met are very down-to-earth. Well, except for one family that seemed almost fundamentalist-conservative, wearing Amish-like clothing. Still, they were nice.

+1. Not Catholic, but I tend to like them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I have never met a Catholic I didn't like. 8) There are TONS of problems with the church, doctrine, and leadership, but the Catholics I've met are very down-to-earth. Well, except for one family that seemed almost fundamentalist-conservative, wearing Amish-like clothing. Still, they were nice.

+1. Not Catholic, but I tend to like them.

Catholics don't usually proselytize -- so it's easier to like them, despite their religion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I have never met a Catholic I didn't like. 8) There are TONS of problems with the church, doctrine, and leadership, but the Catholics I've met are very down-to-earth. Well, except for one family that seemed almost fundamentalist-conservative, wearing Amish-like clothing. Still, they were nice.

+1. Not Catholic, but I tend to like them.

Catholics don't usually proselytize -- so it's easier to like them, despite their religion.

Unless you're part of the crew, you just don't know . . .