Child killed by Neighborhood Watch captain while walking home

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am reposting this, with permission, from another online discussion of Trayvon's tragic death:


"It occurs to me now that Trayvon is our "Rosa Parks."

Clearly racial profiling is something that the country is NOT taking seriously. With victims like Sean Bell, there was always some excuse that he brought it on himself. Media outlets would report on their criminal records, the past, etc. Heck, even being at a strip club was used against them.

Rosa was not the first who was considered to be used for the boycott. She was just the one that no one could criticize. She wasn't a male. She wasn't pregnant out of wedlock. She was just a nice lady who was mistreated. Now we have the same thing. A boy. No criminal record. No record of misbehavior. A sterling young man by all accounts. He was doing nothing but walking back from the store. The problem is unlike Rosa, he can't live to old age and smile about this. He is now a martyr. The fact that such a sweet young man had to die to make the world pay attention to the suffering so so many AA is just so horrible.

The comments that I have been reading during this coverage have been so awful. A black man who is very successful told of how he's been stopped more times than he can count because of driving a luxury car and being used to it. A boy living in a predominantly white neighborhood was accused of stealing his own bike and the cops entered his home and took the serial numbers. Another boy riding in the street was stopped and asked to produce a receipt for his own bike he was riding. Sadly he had it in his pocket already because he knew this would happen.

This is degrading and humiliating that we as African Americans are considered criminals and thugs first, who couldn't possibly own something nice without stealing it. Who can't possibly be in a white neighborhood unless we're there to steal something. Yes, we are the invisible people described in that poem. Despite my clean accent and politeness many white women are still scared and apprehensive around me. What have I done to make them feel so scared? Be tall and black? Should I feel lucky because I'm not a man?

Trayvon is dead. He's dead because an ignorant man took the law in his own hands. He didn't see a kid walking home in the rain. He saw a picture of his own suspicions and his own frustrations. He saw absolutely nothing but a figure of his own fears and imagination. How many of our sons have to have their futures destroyed by people like him? To be arrested because you look like someone involved in a crime? To be accused of something? This ironically is one of the biggest problems with the black community today. The fact that we cannot escape these stereotypes that are inflicted upon us means that we will always suffer from them, from birth to the grave.

Oh, black kids like to fight.
Black kids are lazy, don't expect them to do homework.
Black kids being put on meds because they're "out of control"
Black colleges aren't as good as white ones. -_-

To not getting jobs because of blackness. Not getting homes. Not getting loans. Being followed in stores. Being watched where ever you go. Being treated as irrational, violent, angry... and never really being seen at all.

And sadly, we are the lucky ones."

the author of this touching post should attach her name to it. I'd like to thank her for it.

Signed -

white person grieving for this boy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Black people were more like Israelis, this stuff would not keep happening to Black people. The Israelis would have retaliated and taken Zimmerman and the likes out by now. Black people stand around and sing Kumbaya and march.

No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


the author of this touching post should attach her name to it. I'd like to thank her for it.

Signed -

white person grieving for this boy

I'm glad the post touched you. I reposted it and I believe the original author would like to remain anonymous.

[Anonymous]

If you listen to Zimmerman's call to 911 carefully you can hear him call Trayvon a "fucking coon" I am so upset this asshole is walking the street! Actually I am sure he is scared to death and can't leave his house. He will have to look over his shoulder for many years, I am sure someone is angry enough to avenge this innocent young man's death. So in many ways he is not free...I still would like to see him behind bars!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you listen to Zimmerman's call to 911 carefully you can hear him call Trayvon a "fucking coon" I am so upset this asshole is walking the street! Actually I am sure he is scared to death and can't leave his house. He will have to look over his shoulder for many years, I am sure someone is angry enough to avenge this innocent young man's death. So in many ways he is not free...I still would like to see him behind bars!

He has shut off his numbers and left his house and is hiding, probably hoping to avoid an arrest before a grand jury indictment comes down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you listen to Zimmerman's call to 911 carefully you can hear him call Trayvon a "fucking coon" I am so upset this asshole is walking the street! Actually I am sure he is scared to death and can't leave his house. He will have to look over his shoulder for many years, I am sure someone is angry enough to avenge this innocent young man's death. So in many ways he is not free...I still would like to see him behind bars!

Disagree. He is breathing. He is free to walk the streets. He may be walking around with a hoodie over his head, but at this time, he is FREE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Black people were more like Israelis, this stuff would not keep happening to Black people. The Israelis would have retaliated and taken Zimmerman and the likes out by now. Black people stand around and sing Kumbaya and march.

No.

Thank god we are not like Israelis. They go way too far, and in the end, everyone loses. They will lose with their strategy because it is unsustainable and they have a mountain of enemies.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why Zimmerman has not been arrested for manslaughter, at least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is an attitude like this in Spring Valley/AU Park/Tenleytown where I live. I have three bi-racial teen sons--one of them is more "black' appearing than the other two. This scenario is my worst nightmare. On the neighborhood listerv, there is this person, let's call him Jelson Nacobsen, who posts ranting messages about "black youths from Wilson" roaming the neighborhood, breaking into cars. He gets all the old codger racists around here (there are quite a few) all worked up. I am so fearful my boys will be set upon while walking home from school by one of these people. Especially now that guns are legal in DC.

Maybe you should report this to the police. Getting other rackets all worked up doesn't sound good. Maybe a call from a police to investigate the comments would at least get the guy to tone it down a bit. Sucks that people can still torment others like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is it possible that this guy hasn't been arrested! He murdered a child in cold blood!

Because that child is BLACK.

Allow me to add to your accurate assertion, PP. It's because the child is black and the murderous man is white. I would bet my house that if a black man killed a white child in this way, he would have been arrested and sitting in jail with calls for the death penalty. It sickens me.

[Anonymous]

How do we know Trayvon wasn't selling crack That he was carrying candy as a way to entice children to get on drugs?

And do we know Trayvon's criminal record? Does he have one?

Everyone assumes little innocent Trayvon is a victim when, statistically, he was up to no good and causing trouble as usual.

It is quite likely Trayvon snarled "You get outta my way or I call my homies n take you out."

Let us not rush to assumptions of Trayvon 's innocence and the Watch Captain's guilt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Histrionic no. History is on PP side. Remember the Scotsboro Boys, Emmit Till, and all the other nameless black boys killed by a white man simply because of the color of his race. Walking suspiciously in ones own neighborhood. I have known of driving while black, now there is a walking while black.

Yes, since there was violence against young black men in 1931 and 1955, this must have been murder. Awesome logic.

You must be white. How lucky for you to be so privileged.

I totally agree PP. He/she has no fucking idea that prejudice still exists. Many white people do get it. some just have no clue but are willing to listen to people who are living in that skin color and others are clueless and don't want to hear otherwise. If you don't know better and you are not racist, listen to people who deal with prejudice every day and THEN form informed opinion about racism.

When the Lululemon murder happened last year I did not read this level of defense for the murderer and "we dont know all the facts, let's wait and see". Oh silly me, she was black, the victim was white. Don't get me wrong. I believed she was guilty very early in the case. She desereved no support and got none. But why the double standard in this case in not condeming the actions of this murderer where we actually know more than the LLL case because we have the 911 recordings. Of course everyone is presumed innocent unitil proven guilt. Didn't stop anyone from pointing out how heinous the actions of the muderer were in the LLL case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do we know Trayvon wasn't selling crack That he was carrying candy as a way to entice children to get on drugs?

And do we know Trayvon's criminal record? Does he have one?

Everyone assumes little innocent Trayvon is a victim when, statistically, he was up to no good and causing trouble as usual.

It is quite likely Trayvon snarled "You get outta my way or I call my homies n take you out."

Let us not rush to assumptions of Trayvon 's innocence and the Watch Captain's guilt.

I hope this was sarcasm...I really hope it was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do we know Trayvon wasn't selling crack That he was carrying candy as a way to entice children to get on drugs?

And do we know Trayvon's criminal record? Does he have one?

Everyone assumes little innocent Trayvon is a victim when, statistically, he was up to no good and causing trouble as usual.

It is quite likely Trayvon snarled "You get outta my way or I call my homies n take you out."

Let us not rush to assumptions of Trayvon 's innocence and the Watch Captain's guilt.

im going to assume you are joking or trying to get a rise out of folks so i wont go for the bate and write some long response on how silly this all sounds and call you out your name.

i will say that your post first highlights the stereotyping that exists with young black men and why a 17 year old black kid is a threat with a hoodie, skittle, and iced tea.

and second, ill concede your silly argument that trayvon was a criminal. did zimmerman have access and knowledge of this? was trayvon wearing his black man "i am a criminal" t-shirt? or maybe trayvon told zimmerman "hey man step to me and its a problem cause i have a criminal record" and that gave zimmerman the right to up and shoot him.

bottom line, he didnt know so criminal record or not, he just up and shot a black kid thinking he was a threat when he had nothing to go but a hoddie and the thoughts in his mind that he was up to something

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:woops. the "reread your last sentence" was aimed at hte pp who said the op was allowing "reason to overcome emotion." You mean the opposite.

We all THINK we know what happened: A racist sonofabitch shot and killed a black boy who didn't belong in the neighborhood. And that is quite likely what did, in fact, happen. But it isn't yet proven, so to start demanding "street justice" is premature.

On what basis did you state he "didn't belong in the neighborhood"? Sincere question.