How do you discipline or punish your 18 YO?

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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.


at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.


Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.


18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.


What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.


I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.


It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.


Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.


Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.


There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.


But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.


Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.


Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.


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I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.


The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?


What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.



If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.


It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.


Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.


I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.


Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?


You're an idiot.


You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.


That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.


You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.


You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.


You haven’t shown me any evidence.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age


Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.


Who gets to decide when they are adults?


Society does, but MODERN society.


Exactly. We have. The law says 18. That's how society decides.


No, modern society hasn’t decided that. What? 2020s and beyond is nowhere near the same as 1960s or 1970s.

And why exactly is 18 the chosen age and not 17 or 19, if the law is so correct and not arbitrary?


How do you not understand that the law is 18? How am I still having to repeat this pages later? It's lunacy.


Again, why is the law correct? You keep doing the same thing, avoiding answering questions, because you know that you’re wrong. You seem demented.


Coming from a person who can't even acknowledge a basic fact. It doesn't matter if the law is correct. It is the law. If you don't like it, it makes not difference. You still have to obey it. If you don't like it, you can try to change it. BE sure you present all that "evidence" you claim to have yet haven't presented in any of your idiotic rantings and name calling.


Your being contradictory again. You can’t answer whether is law is correct about this, and think others should change it, that proves that you’re claim of 18 being an adult is not a fact. If the law is incorrect, it’s still a fact to you and right, what? I’m not going to waste any of my time presenting you with any evidence of something that’s basic knowledge. You’re almost 48 year old brain still would not understand any of it.


Right, you're not going to waste time because you have nothing to support your idiocy. The law is the law. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant. Your 18 year is a legal adult.


18 is not an adult. Just stop. You can’t give any proof and continue to spread lies.


Tell that to the government. Bet you they'll make you understand real quick that yes, in fact, 18 year olds are adults.


I don’t care what the government thinks. Stop with that.


Is your child registered with selective service?

Only adults in the military


No, my child isn’t. He’s a child


NP. He could get in trouble legally for failing to do so. All 18yo males need to register within 30 days after their 18th birthday.

He’s not currently 18. He’s 22.


I'm not following your point. Why are you saying he's not registered and also that he's a child????
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This. I really wouldn’t care when he did it as long as it got done that day.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I’m convinced all these 50 year old hags are all predators that like preying on teen boys. Keep your teen boys away from these nasty women. Their angry and bitter becaus their husband left them for a 21 year old.


Yup the explains the average middle aged DC women who thinks 18 year olds are adults. They can’t keep an adult husband so they have to try to convince themselves that high schoolers are adults to date them. They are disgusting and should not be allowed to exist in society. Their husband hates them, their child will cut them off, their freinds are fake, their in-laws wish they didn’t exist. They just are absolute trash.


Hahahahhahaaa this is the funniest yet dumbest thing I’ve read so far.
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Anonymous wrote:I would make sure he did it first thing when he came home



This. I really wouldn’t care when he did it as long as it got done that day.


There's no snow to shovel! This thread is bonkers.
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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.


at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.


Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.


18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.


What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.


I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.


It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.


Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.


Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.


There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.


But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.


Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.


Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.


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I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.


The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?


What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.



If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.


It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.


Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.


I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.


Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?


You're an idiot.


You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.


That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.


You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.


You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.


You haven’t shown me any evidence.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age


Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.


Who gets to decide when they are adults?


Society does, but MODERN society.


Exactly. We have. The law says 18. That's how society decides.


No, modern society hasn’t decided that. What? 2020s and beyond is nowhere near the same as 1960s or 1970s.

And why exactly is 18 the chosen age and not 17 or 19, if the law is so correct and not arbitrary?


How do you not understand that the law is 18? How am I still having to repeat this pages later? It's lunacy.


Again, why is the law correct? You keep doing the same thing, avoiding answering questions, because you know that you’re wrong. You seem demented.


Coming from a person who can't even acknowledge a basic fact. It doesn't matter if the law is correct. It is the law. If you don't like it, it makes not difference. You still have to obey it. If you don't like it, you can try to change it. BE sure you present all that "evidence" you claim to have yet haven't presented in any of your idiotic rantings and name calling.


Your being contradictory again. You can’t answer whether is law is correct about this, and think others should change it, that proves that you’re claim of 18 being an adult is not a fact. If the law is incorrect, it’s still a fact to you and right, what? I’m not going to waste any of my time presenting you with any evidence of something that’s basic knowledge. You’re almost 48 year old brain still would not understand any of it.


Right, you're not going to waste time because you have nothing to support your idiocy. The law is the law. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant. Your 18 year is a legal adult.


18 is not an adult. Just stop. You can’t give any proof and continue to spread lies.


Tell that to the government. Bet you they'll make you understand real quick that yes, in fact, 18 year olds are adults.


I don’t care what the government thinks. Stop with that.


The government doesn't give a shit what you care about.


Actually, the government does care. There’s this thing called democracy.


Correct. So petition the government and change the law. Until then, 18 year olds are adults. You don’t get to ignore the laws you don’t like.


So 18 year olds aren’t adults, cause the law could be changed tomorrow. Your idea of 18 being an adult is baseless and Inaccurate.
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Anonymous wrote:Only groomers, predators, and pedos think 18 is an adult. “Oh it’s legal! Omg!”.


Only someone extremely dumb takes the time to write something as stupid as this.


Only a pedo disagrees with me.


18 year olds are adults.


No, they aren’t. You must be mentally 7, to believe that teenagers who raise their hand in class to go to the bathroom can be adults.
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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.


at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.


Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.


18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.


What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.


I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.


It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.


Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.


Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.


There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.


But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.


Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.


Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.


"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.


The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?


What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.



If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.


It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.


Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.


I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.


Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?


You're an idiot.


You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.


That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.


You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.


You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.


You haven’t shown me any evidence.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age


Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.


Who gets to decide when they are adults?


Society does, but MODERN society.


Exactly. We have. The law says 18. That's how society decides.


No, modern society hasn’t decided that. What? 2020s and beyond is nowhere near the same as 1960s or 1970s.

And why exactly is 18 the chosen age and not 17 or 19, if the law is so correct and not arbitrary?


How do you not understand that the law is 18? How am I still having to repeat this pages later? It's lunacy.


Again, why is the law correct? You keep doing the same thing, avoiding answering questions, because you know that you’re wrong. You seem demented.


Coming from a person who can't even acknowledge a basic fact. It doesn't matter if the law is correct. It is the law. If you don't like it, it makes not difference. You still have to obey it. If you don't like it, you can try to change it. BE sure you present all that "evidence" you claim to have yet haven't presented in any of your idiotic rantings and name calling.


Your being contradictory again. You can’t answer whether is law is correct about this, and think others should change it, that proves that you’re claim of 18 being an adult is not a fact. If the law is incorrect, it’s still a fact to you and right, what? I’m not going to waste any of my time presenting you with any evidence of something that’s basic knowledge. You’re almost 48 year old brain still would not understand any of it.


Right, you're not going to waste time because you have nothing to support your idiocy. The law is the law. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant. Your 18 year is a legal adult.


18 is not an adult. Just stop. You can’t give any proof and continue to spread lies.


Tell that to the government. Bet you they'll make you understand real quick that yes, in fact, 18 year olds are adults.


I don’t care what the government thinks. Stop with that.


Is your child registered with selective service?

Only adults in the military


No, my child isn’t. He’s a child


If he is 18 he is breaking the law. And at 18 he is an adult.


I don’t care about the law. Only idiots like you do. He’s a child.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I’m convinced all these 50 year old hags are all predators that like preying on teen boys. Keep your teen boys away from these nasty women. Their angry and bitter becaus their husband left them for a 21 year old.


Yup the explains the average middle aged DC women who thinks 18 year olds are adults. They can’t keep an adult husband so they have to try to convince themselves that high schoolers are adults to date them. They are disgusting and should not be allowed to exist in society. Their husband hates them, their child will cut them off, their freinds are fake, their in-laws wish they didn’t exist. They just are absolute trash.


Hahahahhahaaa this is the funniest yet dumbest thing I’ve read so far.


What about it is not true?
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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.


at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.


Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.


18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.


What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.


I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.


It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.


Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.


Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.


There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.


But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.


Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.


Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.


"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.


The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?


What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.



If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.


It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.


Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.


I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.


Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?


You're an idiot.


You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.


That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.


You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.


You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.


You haven’t shown me any evidence.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age


Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.


Who gets to decide when they are adults?


Society does, but MODERN society.


Exactly. We have. The law says 18. That's how society decides.


No, modern society hasn’t decided that. What? 2020s and beyond is nowhere near the same as 1960s or 1970s.

And why exactly is 18 the chosen age and not 17 or 19, if the law is so correct and not arbitrary?


How do you not understand that the law is 18? How am I still having to repeat this pages later? It's lunacy.


Again, why is the law correct? You keep doing the same thing, avoiding answering questions, because you know that you’re wrong. You seem demented.


Coming from a person who can't even acknowledge a basic fact. It doesn't matter if the law is correct. It is the law. If you don't like it, it makes not difference. You still have to obey it. If you don't like it, you can try to change it. BE sure you present all that "evidence" you claim to have yet haven't presented in any of your idiotic rantings and name calling.


Your being contradictory again. You can’t answer whether is law is correct about this, and think others should change it, that proves that you’re claim of 18 being an adult is not a fact. If the law is incorrect, it’s still a fact to you and right, what? I’m not going to waste any of my time presenting you with any evidence of something that’s basic knowledge. You’re almost 48 year old brain still would not understand any of it.


Right, you're not going to waste time because you have nothing to support your idiocy. The law is the law. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant. Your 18 year is a legal adult.


18 is not an adult. Just stop. You can’t give any proof and continue to spread lies.


Tell that to the government. Bet you they'll make you understand real quick that yes, in fact, 18 year olds are adults.


I don’t care what the government thinks. Stop with that.


The government doesn't give a shit what you care about.


Actually, the government does care. There’s this thing called democracy.


Correct. So petition the government and change the law. Until then, 18 year olds are adults. You don’t get to ignore the laws you don’t like.


So 18 year olds aren’t adults, cause the law could be changed tomorrow. Your idea of 18 being an adult is baseless and Inaccurate.


I'm just going to keep saying it until you finally get it, 18 year olds are legal adults.
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at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.


Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.


18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.


What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.


I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.


It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.


Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.


Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.


There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.


But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.


Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.


Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.


"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.


The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?


What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.



If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.


It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.


Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.


I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.


Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?


You're an idiot.


You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.


That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.


You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.


You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.


You haven’t shown me any evidence.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age


Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.


Who gets to decide when they are adults?


Society does, but MODERN society.


Exactly. We have. The law says 18. That's how society decides.


No, modern society hasn’t decided that. What? 2020s and beyond is nowhere near the same as 1960s or 1970s.

And why exactly is 18 the chosen age and not 17 or 19, if the law is so correct and not arbitrary?


How do you not understand that the law is 18? How am I still having to repeat this pages later? It's lunacy.


Again, why is the law correct? You keep doing the same thing, avoiding answering questions, because you know that you’re wrong. You seem demented.


Coming from a person who can't even acknowledge a basic fact. It doesn't matter if the law is correct. It is the law. If you don't like it, it makes not difference. You still have to obey it. If you don't like it, you can try to change it. BE sure you present all that "evidence" you claim to have yet haven't presented in any of your idiotic rantings and name calling.


Your being contradictory again. You can’t answer whether is law is correct about this, and think others should change it, that proves that you’re claim of 18 being an adult is not a fact. If the law is incorrect, it’s still a fact to you and right, what? I’m not going to waste any of my time presenting you with any evidence of something that’s basic knowledge. You’re almost 48 year old brain still would not understand any of it.


Right, you're not going to waste time because you have nothing to support your idiocy. The law is the law. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant. Your 18 year is a legal adult.


18 is not an adult. Just stop. You can’t give any proof and continue to spread lies.


Tell that to the government. Bet you they'll make you understand real quick that yes, in fact, 18 year olds are adults.


I don’t care what the government thinks. Stop with that.


Is your child registered with selective service?

Only adults in the military


No, my child isn’t. He’s a child


NP. He could get in trouble legally for failing to do so. All 18yo males need to register within 30 days after their 18th birthday.

He’s not currently 18. He’s 22.


I'm not following your point. Why are you saying he's not registered and also that he's a child????


That isn’t your business, he was a child at 18.
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at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.


Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.


18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.


What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.


I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.


It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.


Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.


Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.


There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.


But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.


Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.


Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.


"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.


The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?


What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.



If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.


It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.


Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.


I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.


Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?


You're an idiot.


You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.


That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.


You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.


You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.


You haven’t shown me any evidence.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age


Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.


Who gets to decide when they are adults?


Society does, but MODERN society.


Exactly. We have. The law says 18. That's how society decides.


No, modern society hasn’t decided that. What? 2020s and beyond is nowhere near the same as 1960s or 1970s.

And why exactly is 18 the chosen age and not 17 or 19, if the law is so correct and not arbitrary?


How do you not understand that the law is 18? How am I still having to repeat this pages later? It's lunacy.


Again, why is the law correct? You keep doing the same thing, avoiding answering questions, because you know that you’re wrong. You seem demented.


Coming from a person who can't even acknowledge a basic fact. It doesn't matter if the law is correct. It is the law. If you don't like it, it makes not difference. You still have to obey it. If you don't like it, you can try to change it. BE sure you present all that "evidence" you claim to have yet haven't presented in any of your idiotic rantings and name calling.


Your being contradictory again. You can’t answer whether is law is correct about this, and think others should change it, that proves that you’re claim of 18 being an adult is not a fact. If the law is incorrect, it’s still a fact to you and right, what? I’m not going to waste any of my time presenting you with any evidence of something that’s basic knowledge. You’re almost 48 year old brain still would not understand any of it.


Right, you're not going to waste time because you have nothing to support your idiocy. The law is the law. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant. Your 18 year is a legal adult.


18 is not an adult. Just stop. You can’t give any proof and continue to spread lies.


Tell that to the government. Bet you they'll make you understand real quick that yes, in fact, 18 year olds are adults.


I don’t care what the government thinks. Stop with that.


Is your child registered with selective service?

Only adults in the military


No, my child isn’t. He’s a child


If he is 18 he is breaking the law. And at 18 he is an adult.


I don’t care about the law. Only idiots like you do. He’s a child.


I called you a troll a few pages ago and now I know that you are for sure trolling. Damn, I can't beleive I fell for it.

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at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.


Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.


18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.


What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.


I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.


It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.


Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.


Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.


There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.


But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.


Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.


Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.


"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.


The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?


What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.



If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.


It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.


Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.


I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.


Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?


You're an idiot.


You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.


That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.


You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.


You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.


You haven’t shown me any evidence.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age


Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.


Who gets to decide when they are adults?


Society does, but MODERN society.


Exactly. We have. The law says 18. That's how society decides.


No, modern society hasn’t decided that. What? 2020s and beyond is nowhere near the same as 1960s or 1970s.

And why exactly is 18 the chosen age and not 17 or 19, if the law is so correct and not arbitrary?


How do you not understand that the law is 18? How am I still having to repeat this pages later? It's lunacy.


Again, why is the law correct? You keep doing the same thing, avoiding answering questions, because you know that you’re wrong. You seem demented.


Coming from a person who can't even acknowledge a basic fact. It doesn't matter if the law is correct. It is the law. If you don't like it, it makes not difference. You still have to obey it. If you don't like it, you can try to change it. BE sure you present all that "evidence" you claim to have yet haven't presented in any of your idiotic rantings and name calling.


Your being contradictory again. You can’t answer whether is law is correct about this, and think others should change it, that proves that you’re claim of 18 being an adult is not a fact. If the law is incorrect, it’s still a fact to you and right, what? I’m not going to waste any of my time presenting you with any evidence of something that’s basic knowledge. You’re almost 48 year old brain still would not understand any of it.


Right, you're not going to waste time because you have nothing to support your idiocy. The law is the law. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant. Your 18 year is a legal adult.


18 is not an adult. Just stop. You can’t give any proof and continue to spread lies.


Tell that to the government. Bet you they'll make you understand real quick that yes, in fact, 18 year olds are adults.


I don’t care what the government thinks. Stop with that.


Is your child registered with selective service?

Only adults in the military


No, my child isn’t. He’s a child


NP. He could get in trouble legally for failing to do so. All 18yo males need to register within 30 days after their 18th birthday.

He’s not currently 18. He’s 22.


I'm not following your point. Why are you saying he's not registered and also that he's a child????


That isn’t your business, he was a child at 18.


Nope, legally an adult. Are you going to hide him if they draft him tomorrow?
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at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.


Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.


18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.


What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.


I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.


It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.


Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.


Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.


There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.


But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.


Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.


Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.


"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.


The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?


What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.



If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.


It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.


Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.


I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.


Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?


You're an idiot.


You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.


That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.


You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.


You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.


You haven’t shown me any evidence.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age


Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.


Who gets to decide when they are adults?


Society does, but MODERN society.


Exactly. We have. The law says 18. That's how society decides.


No, modern society hasn’t decided that. What? 2020s and beyond is nowhere near the same as 1960s or 1970s.

And why exactly is 18 the chosen age and not 17 or 19, if the law is so correct and not arbitrary?


How do you not understand that the law is 18? How am I still having to repeat this pages later? It's lunacy.


Again, why is the law correct? You keep doing the same thing, avoiding answering questions, because you know that you’re wrong. You seem demented.


Coming from a person who can't even acknowledge a basic fact. It doesn't matter if the law is correct. It is the law. If you don't like it, it makes not difference. You still have to obey it. If you don't like it, you can try to change it. BE sure you present all that "evidence" you claim to have yet haven't presented in any of your idiotic rantings and name calling.


Your being contradictory again. You can’t answer whether is law is correct about this, and think others should change it, that proves that you’re claim of 18 being an adult is not a fact. If the law is incorrect, it’s still a fact to you and right, what? I’m not going to waste any of my time presenting you with any evidence of something that’s basic knowledge. You’re almost 48 year old brain still would not understand any of it.


Right, you're not going to waste time because you have nothing to support your idiocy. The law is the law. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant. Your 18 year is a legal adult.


18 is not an adult. Just stop. You can’t give any proof and continue to spread lies.


Tell that to the government. Bet you they'll make you understand real quick that yes, in fact, 18 year olds are adults.


I don’t care what the government thinks. Stop with that.


Is your child registered with selective service?

Only adults in the military


No, my child isn’t. He’s a child


NP. He could get in trouble legally for failing to do so. All 18yo males need to register within 30 days after their 18th birthday.

He’s not currently 18. He’s 22.


I'm not following your point. Why are you saying he's not registered and also that he's a child????


That isn’t your business, he was a child at 18.


Nope, legally an adult. Are you going to hide him if they draft him tomorrow?


Draft him for what. He is a child, period.
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Anonymous wrote:Only groomers, predators, and pedos think 18 is an adult. “Oh it’s legal! Omg!”.


Only someone extremely dumb takes the time to write something as stupid as this.


Only a pedo disagrees with me.


18 year olds are adults.


No, they aren’t. You must be mentally 7, to believe that teenagers who raise their hand in class to go to the bathroom can be adults.


18 year olds who can sign legal contracts, vote, get married without your permission are adults. Your hissy fits mean nothing in the eyes of the law.
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at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.


Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.


18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.


What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.


I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.


It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.


Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.


Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.


There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.


But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.


Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.


Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.


"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.


The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?


What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.



If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.


It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.


Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.


I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.


Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?


You're an idiot.


You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.


That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.


You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.


You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.


You haven’t shown me any evidence.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age


Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.


Who gets to decide when they are adults?


Society does, but MODERN society.


Exactly. We have. The law says 18. That's how society decides.


No, modern society hasn’t decided that. What? 2020s and beyond is nowhere near the same as 1960s or 1970s.

And why exactly is 18 the chosen age and not 17 or 19, if the law is so correct and not arbitrary?


How do you not understand that the law is 18? How am I still having to repeat this pages later? It's lunacy.


Again, why is the law correct? You keep doing the same thing, avoiding answering questions, because you know that you’re wrong. You seem demented.


Coming from a person who can't even acknowledge a basic fact. It doesn't matter if the law is correct. It is the law. If you don't like it, it makes not difference. You still have to obey it. If you don't like it, you can try to change it. BE sure you present all that "evidence" you claim to have yet haven't presented in any of your idiotic rantings and name calling.


Your being contradictory again. You can’t answer whether is law is correct about this, and think others should change it, that proves that you’re claim of 18 being an adult is not a fact. If the law is incorrect, it’s still a fact to you and right, what? I’m not going to waste any of my time presenting you with any evidence of something that’s basic knowledge. You’re almost 48 year old brain still would not understand any of it.


Right, you're not going to waste time because you have nothing to support your idiocy. The law is the law. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant. Your 18 year is a legal adult.


18 is not an adult. Just stop. You can’t give any proof and continue to spread lies.


Tell that to the government. Bet you they'll make you understand real quick that yes, in fact, 18 year olds are adults.


I don’t care what the government thinks. Stop with that.


Is your child registered with selective service?

Only adults in the military


No, my child isn’t. He’s a child


NP. He could get in trouble legally for failing to do so. All 18yo males need to register within 30 days after their 18th birthday.

He’s not currently 18. He’s 22.


I'm not following your point. Why are you saying he's not registered and also that he's a child????


That isn’t your business, he was a child at 18.


Nope, legally an adult. Are you going to hide him if they draft him tomorrow?


Draft him for what. He is a child, period.


You're not all mentally there, are you?
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