The end of higher ed Diversity

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Anonymous wrote:Massive drop in black student population at Princeton University: https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2025/09/princeton-news-stlife-five-percent-class-of-2029-identify-black-african-american

This is painful for the missing Black kids who could have done well at Princeton, and benefited from Princeton’s resources.

This is also terrible for the other kids at Princeton. Non-Black students will get much less exposure to the perspectives of Black students, in a country and world where a growing percentage of the population is Black. Princeton will be less effective at preparing students to live in the world of the future.

- A White Person

As will continue, we will create technologies without thinking about the users who aren’t white/asian. Why people aren’t interested in improving our education system so we don’t have to give anyone boosts and can just admit by profile is beyond me. Instead, we act as if everyone has the same opportunities and ultimately make overly Asian classes.

What opportunity to asians have that whites do not?

Or Blacks do not?
In fact, Asians have more obstacles and disadvantages.

PP here.
When people complain about differentials in opportunity resulting in too many asians, I am curious what opportunities asians have that whites do not.
I think comparing asians with blacks just muddies the waters.

Why are there so many goldarn asians at these schools? What secret cabal of racists are rigging the system to make things easier for asians but not whites?

They’re actually making it hard for Asians, eg race cap and smear campaign against Asians.

I'm not asking you. I am asking the racists.

What unfair advantage do asians have over whites that explains the achievement gap between whites and asians?

What achievement gap?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is just incredible to me as a Black woman. It represents what’s wrong with this country when it comes to race. The fact that you think that, given the history of this country, it is possible for a Black person to compete on a level playing field—no matter the income— is laughable. Even with affirmative action the playing field wasn’t level. Can you imagine how challenging and exhausting it is to EXIST on a college campus where you are 9% of the population? Can you imagine how challenging it is day in and day out to be the ONLY person who looks like you in your company? I’ve been in meetings where it’s me and 15 white guys and it is astounding. The fact that these students have attended and SUCCEEDED is a testament to their resilience, grit and intellect. But y’all keep thinking the way you do. And still I rise.

Blacks represent 13% of the U.S. population. If you're saying you can't be comfortable anywhere unless people that "look like you" constitute a majority, unfortunately it appears you will never be comfortable.

DP but you really think it’s difficult to find neighborhoods or areas with majority black people? This is DC urban mom for crying out loud! You could easily live in New York, DC, Philly, Baltimore, Houston, and probably some other cities on top of that and easily not see much of anything but black people.

We are talking about colleges not neighborhoods.

Sure there are Black majority colleges too.
People have options if you earn it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For years, UMC and wealthy black students have been able to glide into T20 schools because they check the right race box. We’ve all seen it in the private schools. Now everyone has to compete.

The focus should be on smart FGLI students who don’t get all the privileges and benefits of wealthy private school students who use race as a hook.

Black students represented 14.8% of the college applicant pool in 2024-25, and their representation at Princeton this year is only 5%. Over the last half-century, Princeton's enrollment of Black students has never exceeded 10%. Doesn't sound like anyone has ever been "gliding in."

PP said UMC and wealthy blacks. It does seem that there is a reason Princeton (and other top schools) should focus on others who aren’t intellectually challenged like you.

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Anonymous wrote:Filtering for FGLI is going to pull in a lot of JD Vance-ish rural white kids and children of recent immigrants. It's not a panacea for filling the class with blacks.

FGLI smart students are not the hillbilly elegy writers. Many are progressive people who can’t stand the toxic MAGAT culture.

The toxic culture comes from the left as well. Current events prove this.

More so from the left.

Political tolerance amongst progressives is nonexistent.

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Anonymous wrote:Massive drop in black student population at Princeton University: https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2025/09/princeton-news-stlife-five-percent-class-of-2029-identify-black-african-american

This is painful for the missing Black kids who could have done well at Princeton, and benefited from Princeton’s resources.

This is also terrible for the other kids at Princeton. Non-Black students will get much less exposure to the perspectives of Black students, in a country and world where a growing percentage of the population is Black. Princeton will be less effective at preparing students to live in the world of the future.

- A White Person

As will continue, we will create technologies without thinking about the users who aren’t white/asian. Why people aren’t interested in improving our education system so we don’t have to give anyone boosts and can just admit by profile is beyond me. Instead, we act as if everyone has the same opportunities and ultimately make overly Asian classes.

What opportunity to asians have that whites do not?

Or Blacks do not?
In fact, Asians have more obstacles and disadvantages.

PP here.
When people complain about differentials in opportunity resulting in too many asians, I am curious what opportunities asians have that whites do not.
I think comparing asians with blacks just muddies the waters.

Why are there so many goldarn asians at these schools? What secret cabal of racists are rigging the system to make things easier for asians but not whites?

They’re actually making it hard for Asians, eg race cap and smear campaign against Asians.

I'm not asking you. I am asking the racists.

What unfair advantage do asians have over whites that explains the achievement gap between whites and asians?

What achievement gap?

NP.

Don’t play dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For years, UMC and wealthy black students have been able to glide into T20 schools because they check the right race box. We’ve all seen it in the private schools. Now everyone has to compete.

The focus should be on smart FGLI students who don’t get all the privileges and benefits of wealthy private school students who use race as a hook.

Black students represented 14.8% of the college applicant pool in 2024-25, and their representation at Princeton this year is only 5%. Over the last half-century, Princeton's enrollment of Black students has never exceeded 10%. Doesn't sound like anyone has ever been "gliding in."

This post shows exactly what’s wrong with the U.S. education. People simply cannot do basic logic thinking. All they’re good at is smear campaign blaming others are only good at test taking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Filtering for FGLI is going to pull in a lot of JD Vance-ish rural white kids and children of recent immigrants. It's not a panacea for filling the class with blacks.

FGLI smart students are not the hillbilly elegy writers. Many are progressive people who can’t stand the toxic MAGAT culture.

The toxic culture comes from the left as well. Current events prove this.

More so from the left.

Political tolerance amongst progressives is nonexistent.

Whereas the right wingers are all about tolerance. And threatening civil war all the time, but that’s totally in line with tolerance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t get it. It’s 2025. Why does race-blind admissions not lead to a more balanced class naturally?

K12 education.

Literacy and math skills in K12 is where the focus needs to be.

And SATs & ACTs need to be reemphasized everywhere.

Going test optional excluded high performing lower income and minority kids and lifted mediocre rich kids with inflated grades who could cultivate expensive activities and pay people to write their essays.

+1, TO has resulted in the opposite of the original intent.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t get it. It’s 2025. Why does race-blind admissions not lead to a more balanced class naturally?

Because effort is not equally applied by all groups.

Cultural expectations are very different too. This starts early in elementary school - attendance and homework completion norms vary widely across ethnic groups.

[Anonymous]

Very happy that this thread moved from weird racism to cultural conversation. With schools getting as low as 2% black, it’s difficult to imagine though why most high achieving black students would be interested in the social environment.

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Anonymous wrote:Very happy that this thread moved from weird racism to cultural conversation. With schools getting as low as 2% black, it’s difficult to imagine though why most high achieving black students would be interested in the social environment.

But that’s based on a false, and somewhat racist premise you posited:

“Black students are only interested in socializing with other Black students at a university” ??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Very happy that this thread moved from weird racism to cultural conversation. With schools getting as low as 2% black, it’s difficult to imagine though why most high achieving black students would be interested in the social environment.

But that’s based on a false, and somewhat racist premise you posited:

“Black students are only interested in socializing with other Black students at a university” ??

I think it’s normal to admit that most people would like some community of their own at their institution. Black students, on average, tend to want to be in an environment with other black students noticeably around. I’m not really sure why you think this is racist. A walk around Berkeley would probably break your head.

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Anonymous wrote:Very happy that this thread moved from weird racism to cultural conversation. With schools getting as low as 2% black, it’s difficult to imagine though why most high achieving black students would be interested in the social environment.

But that’s based on a false, and somewhat racist premise you posited:

“Black students are only interested in socializing with other Black students at a university” ??

I don't know if the black students at my ivy were only interested in socializing with each other, but many of them were primarily interested in socializing with each other. The non strawman version of the premise might be racist, but it is not false.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Very happy that this thread moved from weird racism to cultural conversation. With schools getting as low as 2% black, it’s difficult to imagine though why most high achieving black students would be interested in the social environment.

But that’s based on a false, and somewhat racist premise you posited:

“Black students are only interested in socializing with other Black students at a university” ??

The prevalence of [race] student unions, associations, and various other groups- like People of Color Outside clubs suggests that people like being with like. If I’m a white guy- I’d much rather be going to Vanderbilt than Howard.

[Anonymous]

People here are obsessed with their own political issues here. This is a problem of inequality and culture, and doesn’t need to be overcompensated by some white guys desire to get rid of black people in higher ed.