The end of higher ed Diversity

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is just incredible to me as a Black woman. It represents what’s wrong with this country when it comes to race. The fact that you think that, given the history of this country, it is possible for a Black person to compete on a level playing field—no matter the income— is laughable. Even with affirmative action the playing field wasn’t level. Can you imagine how challenging and exhausting it is to EXIST on a college campus where you are 9% of the population? Can you imagine how challenging it is day in and day out to be the ONLY person who looks like you in your company? I’ve been in meetings where it’s me and 15 white guys and it is astounding. The fact that these students have attended and SUCCEEDED is a testament to their resilience, grit and intellect. But y’all keep thinking the way you do. And still I rise.

You’re whining. Here’s an example. My aunt went to an Ivy League law school in the early 60s when there were very few women. Some professors treated her like garbage and told her to go home and make babies. Many male students didn’t want to work with her. I’m guessing you have never been treated this badly. And this is as a woman who were badly underrepresented compared to their actual percentage of the population.

So what did female lawyers do? Did they whine and ask for special privileges. No. They put their heads down, worked hard, fit in, and didn’t complain. And now they are the majority of law students. They still often aren’t treated 100% as equals but it is much better.

So stop the whining and expectation of special treatment and do something. There has been affirmative action for more than a decade. There are now many minorities in leadership positions. There probably should be more but don’t be a martyr. In the upper echelons of higher Ed it should be a meritocracy.

You are an idiot. The past decades of affirmative action mostly benefitted the white women you are talking about.

And, I can’t believe people on this thread continue to villanize African-American students but haven’t said one word about the white LAX, hockey, or crew bros getting an advantage getting into ivies - it’s crazy!

[Anonymous]

Top colleges are filled with many students who are not there for the academics. College has become a weird country club/career center/social services organization depending on which group you belong to. The courses are an afterthought.

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Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is a racist term. If we have to assimilate, we shall assimilate into Indian tribes starting from the mayflower era.

No it isn’t. It’s not racist to point out that Asian American students come to these schools- make the culture grossly sterile, competitive, and suicide-inducing, and only hang out in all-Asian groups. This means they don’t get the benefits of the liberal arts, only engaging in Asian affairs and Asian-centric education and classroom spaces. It makes the education worse, and they feel entitled to university positions.

As a black, I am offended by this term assimilation. If maga doesn’t like these schools, you can go to your Washington & Lee.

If Asians dominate top schools because they have higher test scores and academic records, I'm totally fine with that result. Its not like Asians have some secret weapon that no other race can access. Asian students just seem to work harder in school. Any white, Black, or brown child can choose to grind in high school if they want to compete and get into the top schools. There are a lot of good schools in this country for those who choose not to grind.

(Also, FWIW, 50% of the kids at W&L are Democrats. Its not a Maga refuge.)

-A White person

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Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is a racist term. If we have to assimilate, we shall assimilate into Indian tribes starting from the mayflower era.

No it isn’t. It’s not racist to point out that Asian American students come to these schools- make the culture grossly sterile, competitive, and suicide-inducing, and only hang out in all-Asian groups. This means they don’t get the benefits of the liberal arts, only engaging in Asian affairs and Asian-centric education and classroom spaces. It makes the education worse, and they feel entitled to university positions.

As a black, I am offended by this term assimilation. If maga doesn’t like these schools, you can go to your Washington & Lee.

If Asians dominate top schools because they have higher test scores and academic records, I'm totally fine with that result. Its not like Asians have some secret weapon that no other race can access. Asian students just seem to work harder in school. Any white, Black, or brown child can choose to grind in high school if they want to compete and get into the top schools. There are a lot of good schools in this country for those who choose not to grind.

(Also, FWIW, 50% of the kids at W&L are Democrats. Its not a Maga refuge.)

-A White person

Some of the Asian students cheat to get in to those schools. That's the dirty little secret.

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Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is a racist term. If we have to assimilate, we shall assimilate into Indian tribes starting from the mayflower era.

No it isn’t. It’s not racist to point out that Asian American students come to these schools- make the culture grossly sterile, competitive, and suicide-inducing, and only hang out in all-Asian groups. This means they don’t get the benefits of the liberal arts, only engaging in Asian affairs and Asian-centric education and classroom spaces. It makes the education worse, and they feel entitled to university positions.

As a black, I am offended by this term assimilation. If maga doesn’t like these schools, you can go to your Washington & Lee.

If Asians dominate top schools because they have higher test scores and academic records, I'm totally fine with that result. Its not like Asians have some secret weapon that no other race can access. Asian students just seem to work harder in school. Any white, Black, or brown child can choose to grind in high school if they want to compete and get into the top schools. There are a lot of good schools in this country for those who choose not to grind.

(Also, FWIW, 50% of the kids at W&L are Democrats. Its not a Maga refuge.)

-A White person

Some of the Asian students cheat to get in to those schools. That's the dirty little secret.

Keep coping

[Anonymous]

Not too long ago, Asians were 2% or less at most of these colleges. There's that 😉

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Anonymous wrote:Not too long ago, Asians were 2% or less at most of these colleges. There's that 😉

How long ago? Like two hundred years ago?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not too long ago, Asians were 2% or less at most of these colleges. There's that 😉

How long ago? Like two hundred years ago?

You must got F on US history lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not too long ago, Asians were 2% or less at most of these colleges. There's that 😉

How long ago? Like two hundred years ago?

You must got F on US history lol

So what’s the answer?

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Anonymous wrote:Not too long ago, Asians were 2% or less at most of these colleges. There's that 😉

How long ago? Like two hundred years ago?

You must got F on US history lol

So what’s the answer?

For Yale,

In 1969: The Asian American Students Alliance (AASA) was founded. At the time, there were fewer than 60 Asian American students at Yale College out of a total undergraduate population of about 4,600.

That's 1.3%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is a racist term. If we have to assimilate, we shall assimilate into Indian tribes starting from the mayflower era.

No it isn’t. It’s not racist to point out that Asian American students come to these schools- make the culture grossly sterile, competitive, and suicide-inducing, and only hang out in all-Asian groups. This means they don’t get the benefits of the liberal arts, only engaging in Asian affairs and Asian-centric education and classroom spaces. It makes the education worse, and they feel entitled to university positions.

As a black, I am offended by this term assimilation. If maga doesn’t like these schools, you can go to your Washington & Lee.

If Asians dominate top schools because they have higher test scores and academic records, I'm totally fine with that result. Its not like Asians have some secret weapon that no other race can access. Asian students just seem to work harder in school. Any white, Black, or brown child can choose to grind in high school if they want to compete and get into the top schools. There are a lot of good schools in this country for those who choose not to grind.

(Also, FWIW, 50% of the kids at W&L are Democrats. Its not a Maga refuge.)

-A White person

Some of the Asian students cheat to get in to those schools. That's the dirty little secret.

Most of the kids cheat now. AI ruined them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not too long ago, Asians were 2% or less at most of these colleges. There's that 😉

How long ago? Like two hundred years ago?

You must got F on US history lol

So what’s the answer?

For Yale,

In 1969: The Asian American Students Alliance (AASA) was founded. At the time, there were fewer than 60 Asian American students at Yale College out of a total undergraduate population of about 4,600.

That's 1.3%

So? I guess you’re trying to imply that Asians are over represented at top colleges today.
In 1969, Asian enrollment at Yale was low not because of merit but because U.S. immigration laws had only just changed and explicit racial discrimination was still widely practiced. Fast forward to today: Asian Americans are about 6–7% of the population but 20–30% at top schools, reflecting high application rates and strong academics. That’s not “overrepresentation” — it’s merit. And while racial bias hasn’t disappeared today, the comparison to 1969 misses the real context.

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Anonymous wrote:Massive drop in black student population at Princeton University: https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2025/09/princeton-news-stlife-five-percent-class-of-2029-identify-black-african-american

This is painful for the missing Black kids who could have done well at Princeton, and benefited from Princeton’s resources.

This is also terrible for the other kids at Princeton. Non-Black students will get much less exposure to the perspectives of Black students, in a country and world where a growing percentage of the population is Black. Princeton will be less effective at preparing students to live in the world of the future.

- A White Person

As will continue, we will create technologies without thinking about the users who aren’t white/asian. Why people aren’t interested in improving our education system so we don’t have to give anyone boosts and can just admit by profile is beyond me. Instead, we act as if everyone has the same opportunities and ultimately make overly Asian classes.

What opportunity to asians have that whites do not?

Or Blacks do not?
In fact, Asians have more obstacles and disadvantages.

PP here.
When people complain about differentials in opportunity resulting in too many asians, I am curious what opportunities asians have that whites do not.
I think comparing asians with blacks just muddies the waters.

Why are there so many goldarn asians at these schools? What secret cabal of racists are rigging the system to make things easier for asians but not whites?

They’re actually making it hard for Asians, eg race cap and smear campaign against Asians.

I'm not asking you. I am asking the racists.

What unfair advantage do asians have over whites that explains the achievement gap between whites and asians?

What achievement gap?

NP.

Don’t play dumb.

People view "achievement" in different ways, so what gap are we discussing? SAT scores?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For years, UMC and wealthy black students have been able to glide into T20 schools because they check the right race box. We’ve all seen it in the private schools. Now everyone has to compete.

The focus should be on smart FGLI students who don’t get all the privileges and benefits of wealthy private school students who use race as a hook.

Black students represented 14.8% of the college applicant pool in 2024-25, and their representation at Princeton this year is only 5%. Over the last half-century, Princeton's enrollment of Black students has never exceeded 10%. Doesn't sound like anyone has ever been "gliding in."

PP said UMC and wealthy blacks. It does seem that there is a reason Princeton (and other top schools) should focus on others who aren’t intellectually challenged like you.

Do you always turn toxic when challenged with statistics?

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Anonymous wrote:Massive drop in black student population at Princeton University: https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2025/09/princeton-news-stlife-five-percent-class-of-2029-identify-black-african-american

This is painful for the missing Black kids who could have done well at Princeton, and benefited from Princeton’s resources.

This is also terrible for the other kids at Princeton. Non-Black students will get much less exposure to the perspectives of Black students, in a country and world where a growing percentage of the population is Black. Princeton will be less effective at preparing students to live in the world of the future.

- A White Person

As will continue, we will create technologies without thinking about the users who aren’t white/asian. Why people aren’t interested in improving our education system so we don’t have to give anyone boosts and can just admit by profile is beyond me. Instead, we act as if everyone has the same opportunities and ultimately make overly Asian classes.

What opportunity to asians have that whites do not?

Or Blacks do not?
In fact, Asians have more obstacles and disadvantages.

PP here.
When people complain about differentials in opportunity resulting in too many asians, I am curious what opportunities asians have that whites do not.
I think comparing asians with blacks just muddies the waters.

Why are there so many goldarn asians at these schools? What secret cabal of racists are rigging the system to make things easier for asians but not whites?

They’re actually making it hard for Asians, eg race cap and smear campaign against Asians.

I'm not asking you. I am asking the racists.

What unfair advantage do asians have over whites that explains the achievement gap between whites and asians?

What achievement gap?

NP.

Don’t play dumb.

People view "achievement" in different ways, so what gap are we discussing? SAT scores?

DP, but you’re really playing dumb.
Harvard law suit reveals that Asian applicants are levels above in almost all categories: academics, ECs, leadership etc.
You’re either dumb or malicious by insisting Asians only excel at SAT.