Does every adult female have an experience where they were almost kidnapped?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so sad.

Men are mostly a sad bunch.

Most men are decent humans. Some men are monsters.

43% of men have admitted to sexually assaulting someone since the age of 14. How many men do you think didn't admit to it?

"some" men aren't monsters. At least half of all men are sexual predators. So no. Not most are decent. Most are the monsters.

43% of men where? 43% of how many men? Where was this study conducted? A prison? Please sight the study where they interviewed every single man in the world or just in America. I will reiterate: MOST men are decent people. SOME men are monsters.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4455931/

Google is free. No need to be a rape apologist. Not a good look for a woman.

The first study they cite includes 300ish college males. This isn't about forcible rape. It is about coersion and tactics those makes use to obtain sex. I am not a rape apologist. I am a critical thinker.

NP but you're moving the goalposts. You asked for substantiation of PP's statement that 43% admitted to sexual assault, now you're saying it doesn't count if it isn't forcible rape. That's . . . pretty much the definition of rape apology, sorry to tell you.

43% of 300 is 129 males who admitted to using coersivevtactics to have sex with a female. Even the authors of the study stop short of calling it forcible rape. As an aside, there is a difference between relenting and regretting and being physically forced.

Coercion is sexual assault. The U.S. Department of Justice tells us that coercion falls under the broader category of sexual assault, which includes rape.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so sad.

Men are mostly a sad bunch.

Most men are decent humans. Some men are monsters.

43% of men have admitted to sexually assaulting someone since the age of 14. How many men do you think didn't admit to it?

"some" men aren't monsters. At least half of all men are sexual predators. So no. Not most are decent. Most are the monsters.

43% of men where? 43% of how many men? Where was this study conducted? A prison? Please sight the study where they interviewed every single man in the world or just in America. I will reiterate: MOST men are decent people. SOME men are monsters.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4455931/

Google is free. No need to be a rape apologist. Not a good look for a woman.

The first study they cite includes 300ish college males. This isn't about forcible rape. It is about coersion and tactics those makes use to obtain sex. I am not a rape apologist. I am a critical thinker.

I didn't call it forceable rape. I called it sexual assault. You are still a rape apologist. Apparently unless it was "forceable" it doesn't count? Youre a POS and a rape apologist.

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This is a simple numbers game if most women have had these experiences (also think about all the women who this has happened to who never tell a soul) these are not all from the same 3 guys morons running around the planet hurting women, these are happening from many, many different men. Thus most men are predators in some capacity, it's simple statistics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so sad.

Men are mostly a sad bunch.

Most men are decent humans. Some men are monsters.

43% of men have admitted to sexually assaulting someone since the age of 14. How many men do you think didn't admit to it?

"some" men aren't monsters. At least half of all men are sexual predators. So no. Not most are decent. Most are the monsters.

43% of men where? 43% of how many men? Where was this study conducted? A prison? Please sight the study where they interviewed every single man in the world or just in America. I will reiterate: MOST men are decent people. SOME men are monsters.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4455931/

Google is free. No need to be a rape apologist. Not a good look for a woman.

The first study they cite includes 300ish college males. This isn't about forcible rape. It is about coersion and tactics those makes use to obtain sex. I am not a rape apologist. I am a critical thinker.

NP but you're moving the goalposts. You asked for substantiation of PP's statement that 43% admitted to sexual assault, now you're saying it doesn't count if it isn't forcible rape. That's . . . pretty much the definition of rape apology, sorry to tell you.

43% of 300 is 129 males who admitted to using coersivevtactics to have sex with a female. Even the authors of the study stop short of calling it forcible rape. As an aside, there is a difference between relenting and regretting and being physically forced.

Coercive does not mean *just* verbally persuading. It goes beyond that and it's repulsive and sometimes there is an unspoken threat that the female picks up so she's operating from a place of fear. In that situation, I would not characterize it as she "relented" and now "regrets".

This is what happened to me when I was 17 and a college freshman. My car wouldn't start one night. A friend of a classmate who I had seen around campus a few times offered to give me a ride. Instead of taking me where I wanted to go, he drove to to the most dangerous part of town to a dark, deserted parking lot filled with broken glass, no street lights and questionable people roaming the nearby streets looking to buy/sell drugs & sex.

Back there, out of vocal reach of anyone, he tried to make a move. I rejected him. He told me if I didn't agree, he would take my clothes, shoes and wallet and leave me all alone to find my way back. I probably would have been raped multiple times if not killed.

So, did I relent or did he physically force me?

In my 30's, a coworker and I were discussing this type of thing. She told me in college, she and another girl agreed to go with 2 guys across the border to Tijuana to have a nice night dining, drinking and dancing. The 2 guys somehow had access to a room and started pressuring my coworker and her friend. They rejected their advances and said they were just there for fun. The guys threatened to take their IDs and leave them behind in Mexico if they didn't agree.

So, did they relent or did the guys physically force them?

We knew the same guy or there are a lot of monsters out there.

I'm sorry.

This still affects me to this day.

[Anonymous]

When I was about 11, I was walking with a friend from her house to mine (maybe 3-4 blocks) when a woman pushing a stroller called out to us and asked us to turn around. She said "there is a guy in that car over there who is looking at you suspiciously and I would never forgive myself if something happened to you." She then followed behind us on our way back to my friend's house to make sure we got back ok. Who knows if the guy was trying to kidnap us but I often think of that woman and how nice that was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was about 11, I was walking with a friend from her house to mine (maybe 3-4 blocks) when a woman pushing a stroller called out to us and asked us to turn around. She said "there is a guy in that car over there who is looking at you suspiciously and I would never forgive myself if something happened to you." She then followed behind us on our way back to my friend's house to make sure we got back ok. Who knows if the guy was trying to kidnap us but I often think of that woman and how nice that was.

I often see posts from men saying they will "protect" us, and the answer is always, "from who?" because without men, we wouldn't need protection. Men don't protect women, women protect women. I'm so glad that woman was looking out for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When I was about 11, I was walking with a friend from her house to mine (maybe 3-4 blocks) when a woman pushing a stroller called out to us and asked us to turn around. She said "there is a guy in that car over there who is looking at you suspiciously and I would never forgive myself if something happened to you." She then followed behind us on our way back to my friend's house to make sure we got back ok. Who knows if the guy was trying to kidnap us but I often think of that woman and how nice that was.

I often see posts from men saying they will "protect" us, and the answer is always, "from who?" because without men, we wouldn't need protection. Men don't protect women, women protect women. I'm so glad that woman was looking out for you.

I agree. Women need to help and support other women. I don't understand why there is so much anger and competition just in general in this county women to women but imagine how the world would be if women did indeed just up lift and support other women we rarely if ever would even need men. Just for procreation but with women choosing not to be mothers more and more than might not even be an issue anymore!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a childhood memory of a woman and her daughter trying to keep me from leaving a public restroom in the Knights of Columbus hall where my large extended family attended and hosted events but at 52 I can't say if it really happened or if it was a dream.

Similar, though as a teen in Germany one summer with a group, and it was a man in the back hallway just outside the women's bathroom. Pulled my arm and I exits restroom and tried to get me to leave out a back hallway exit (I had never seen this person). I started screaming and some other people heard and came to get me. It was very frightening. He of course said it was a misunderstanding. It was not. I quickly got back to my group.

[Anonymous]

Haven't had a kidnapping type of experience, but I am also 5'10" so that helps. Did have a guy I started dating try to overpower me and attempt to rape. Fought hard enough that he stopped, thankfully.

In college I had to help smaller friends fend off guys who didn't want them to leave and grabbed onto them.

[Anonymous]

But...did forget that my dad insisted on picking teenage me up from work when there was a local festival nearby. Wondered why, and when I was walking towards dad he chased off a guy that had apparently been following me as soon as I walked out the door.

Dad knew enough about men that he figured one would try to pull something when the area was crowded and everyone was getting drunk. Haven't thought about that in years.

[Anonymous]

Have not had a kidnapping experience but my mom drilled street smarts and sixth sense into us — which we used to complain about, that she was making us unnaturally paranoid — but now I guess I have to thank her. I must admit I do the same things now with my teen daughter. I may be paranoid, but when she got called in to work a morning shift before her bakery opened at 5 am, I got up to drive her there and make sure it was not just she and, say, a male manager working alone in those dark, early morning hours. I did not know him or whether he was a decent guy or not? I left after about 45 mins after keeping an eye on things thru the plate glass window from my car in the parking lot, after I had seen there were more employees there, other older females, and everything looked legit. I know, I felt like a stalker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"All men do not rape, but it is nearly half that report committing sexual violence against girls and women. According to psychologist, it’s in the psychological profile of a rapist to call their own victim a liar, but they also aim to convince society that most victims are liars. Imagine what the percentage actually is if you account for the majority that were not honest, it is over 50%.

Thus the “It’s not all men.” trope is an example of men continuing women’s oppression. Because they refuse to take any accountability or recognize the level of violence and systematic subjugation women face.

Nearly all men’s reaction to the “Me too” movement, in which women mass-vocalized the sexual violence they face for the first time in history, was to call women liars and mock them. This is because the majority of men are sexual predators."

The majority of men are predators. Funny how the me too movement came and went so quickly isn't it? 'Nothing to see here ladies. We don't need you all banning together.'

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"All men do not rape, but it is nearly half that report committing sexual violence against girls and women. According to psychologist, it’s in the psychological profile of a rapist to call their own victim a liar, but they also aim to convince society that most victims are liars. Imagine what the percentage actually is if you account for the majority that were not honest, it is over 50%.

Thus the “It’s not all men.” trope is an example of men continuing women’s oppression. Because they refuse to take any accountability or recognize the level of violence and systematic subjugation women face.

Nearly all men’s reaction to the “Me too” movement, in which women mass-vocalized the sexual violence they face for the first time in history, was to call women liars and mock them. This is because the majority of men are sexual predators."

The majority of men are predators. Funny how the me too movement came and went so quickly isn't it? 'Nothing to see here ladies. We don't need you all banning together.'

Absolutely, and even coming from other women too! Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

When I was very small around 6 or 7 yrs old I went into the local bank with my mother and a man was watching me the whole time, and as we left he said to her " I didn't do anything to her"

I was absolutely terrified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was about 11, I was walking with a friend from her house to mine (maybe 3-4 blocks) when a woman pushing a stroller called out to us and asked us to turn around. She said "there is a guy in that car over there who is looking at you suspiciously and I would never forgive myself if something happened to you." She then followed behind us on our way back to my friend's house to make sure we got back ok. Who knows if the guy was trying to kidnap us but I often think of that woman and how nice that was.

Lucky she wasn’t the Ghislaine Maxwell type.

Been assaulted two by two different women. One was my doctor. I hate how people assume women aren’t predators. Of course, for a long time, teen boys who tapped a teacher were high-fived.

[Anonymous]

Wow, incredibly chilling that there are 12 pages of women sharing these experiences. We really need to do better as a society.