Why the MAHA obsession with chemicals in food, but not the environment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hypocrisy? Idiocy? Caring about their own bodies and not about the general good?

The prior posts re: introducing more PFA chemicals, roll back of regulation of PFAs in public drinking water, and roll back of regulation of clean air, impacts everyone. You cannot choose your way to cleaner air and water the way you can simply choose not to purchase food with red dye. Heck, PFAs are even in organic produce at this point.

When deregulation means more people being exposed to harmful chemicals, that's pretty bad, especially when the only outcome is corporate profit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello Cancer and Asthma! MAHA!

Trump EPA moves to abandon rule that sets tough standards for deadly soot pollution
"The Trump administration is seeking to abandon a rule that sets tough standards for deadly soot pollution, arguing that the Biden administration did not have authority to set the tighter standard on pollution from tailpipes, smokestacks and other industrial sources.

The action follows moves by the administration last week to weaken federal rules protecting millions of acres of wetlands and streams and roll back protections for imperiled species and the places they live. In a separate action, the Interior Department proposed new oil drilling off the California and Florida coasts for the first time in decades, advancing a project that critics say could harm coastal communities and ecosystems."

https://apnews.com/article/epa-soot-air-pollution-trump-zeldin-deregulation-d7df5b24a159284e96b12958a840c3d8

Good. Biden did not have the authority. You want it, push it through Congress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yum yum!

"Lab-grown meat, also called cultured or cultivated meat, is grown from the cells of an animal, without any need to slaughter an animal to obtain the meat. The animal’s cells are cultivated in stainless steel drums called bioreactors, which are engineered to encourage replication of cells or growth of biological mass. The products that result from this process have been met with excitement due to their potential to replace the millions of animals being raised on factory farms around the world. Because cultured meat is produced in laboratory environments, it does not suffer from some of the contamination and health issues that plague traditional meat producers, such as antibiotic resistance and foodborne and zoonotic illnesses.

Cultured meat is cellularly indistinguishable from the flesh of animals raised on a factory farm. However, there are several aspects of health in which cultured meat surpasses traditionally farmed meat. For example, animal agriculture is already one of the major contributors to antibiotic resistance worldwide, and the use of subtherapeutic antibiotics in animal farming is set to increase further in the coming years. Cellular meat does not require the heavy use of antibiotics, so its production does not contribute to this ongoing public health crisis.

Another aspect of cultured meat that makes it healthier than its farm-raised equivalent is its lower likelihood of causing zoonotic diseases. While animal agriculture is likely to be a source of future pandemics caused by illnesses that jump from animals to people, this risk is minimized in cell-cultured agriculture, because there are no animals involved once the cells have been collected."

https://www.farmforward.com/news/lab-grown-meat/

This video is fake news, some random IT VP at Campbells and not in any food dept.

Campbells would cost over $80 a can if they used lab meat. Fact check, please!

What is fake about it?

Did I say he was in a food department? Do you have any proof to the contrary that Martin Bally stated what he did?

https://www.newsweek.com/campbells-soup-vp-mocks-poor-people-food-secret-recording-11097497

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone make it make sense? MAHA seems obsessed with *bad* chemicals such as synthetic dyes in food that we consume - i.e. what MORE and tighter regulation to supposedly keep us healthy.

Yet MAHA does not care one iota about deregulation at EPA which would lead to..... MORE bad chemicals (worse chemicals, frankly) in our food, drinking water, and air - whatever is used in the environment/farming leaches into our water and soil so often is present in foods (e.g. PFAs and microplastics for one, but there are others).

Why the direct contradiction in approaches to chemicals in general?

RFK is very supportive of environmental laws.

EPA regulations have been passed by zealots who are all about restricting development, and 31 major regulations are being reviewed.
CO2 is not pollution, so the endangerment finding should be overturned.

This! Once EPA focused on CO2, they became useless. Completely untrustworthy.

Do you know you're probably drinking PFAs in your public drinking water - and while there are thousands of them, Trump just rolled back doing anything about it and seems to have zero plans to.

So while you could cut seed oil and dye, the research behind PFAs harming your health is quite strong and your fridge filter is probably inadequate. PFAs in your water; PFAs in sludge to grow produce - so while you may choose to buy fresh US grown vegetables over say, Lucky Charms, you're still getting poisoned in the end with the consequence being cancer, thyroid disease, infertility, and more.

PFAs? That's EPA, not controlled by RFK Jr.

Microplastics in seafood? That's EPA, not RFK Jr.

Pesticides? Chemicals used in farming the fresh food you eat? That's EPA, not RFK Jr.

Not just the water. Plants take up PFAs. I haven't read or heard anything about microplastics in plants (or nano plastics) but I'm sure they will find them.

RFK is only interested, far as I can see, in food dyes. He isn't doing anything about ultraprocessed foods. In fact, he has promoted them: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/09/rfk-ultra-processed-food-medicaid.

FDA and EPA are both involved in chemicals used in food production.

[Anonymous]

"FDA and EPA are both involved in chemicals used in food production. "

Great. So what have they been doing for the last 40 years?

Oh, right, EPA has been trying to boil the ocean by running down the path of carbon dioxide as a pollutant. Govt can't pave a road, but they're going to tell us how to fix the climate, whilst bankrupting us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yum yum!

"Lab-grown meat, also called cultured or cultivated meat, is grown from the cells of an animal, without any need to slaughter an animal to obtain the meat. The animal’s cells are cultivated in stainless steel drums called bioreactors, which are engineered to encourage replication of cells or growth of biological mass. The products that result from this process have been met with excitement due to their potential to replace the millions of animals being raised on factory farms around the world. Because cultured meat is produced in laboratory environments, it does not suffer from some of the contamination and health issues that plague traditional meat producers, such as antibiotic resistance and foodborne and zoonotic illnesses.

Cultured meat is cellularly indistinguishable from the flesh of animals raised on a factory farm. However, there are several aspects of health in which cultured meat surpasses traditionally farmed meat. For example, animal agriculture is already one of the major contributors to antibiotic resistance worldwide, and the use of subtherapeutic antibiotics in animal farming is set to increase further in the coming years. Cellular meat does not require the heavy use of antibiotics, so its production does not contribute to this ongoing public health crisis.

Another aspect of cultured meat that makes it healthier than its farm-raised equivalent is its lower likelihood of causing zoonotic diseases. While animal agriculture is likely to be a source of future pandemics caused by illnesses that jump from animals to people, this risk is minimized in cell-cultured agriculture, because there are no animals involved once the cells have been collected."

https://www.farmforward.com/news/lab-grown-meat/

This video is fake news, some random IT VP at Campbells and not in any food dept.

Campbells would cost over $80 a can if they used lab meat. Fact check, please!

What is fake about it?

Did I say he was in a food department? Do you have any proof to the contrary that Martin Bally stated what he did?

https://www.newsweek.com/campbells-soup-vp-mocks-poor-people-food-secret-recording-11097497

Campbells does not use lab grown meat in their soup, at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"FDA and EPA are both involved in chemicals used in food production. "

Great. So what have they been doing for the last 40 years?

Oh, right, EPA has been trying to boil the ocean by running down the path of carbon dioxide as a pollutant. Govt can't pave a road, but they're going to tell us how to fix the climate, whilst bankrupting us.

Nice attempt to distract and change the subject. Republicans love deregulation and deregulation makes us sicker, and the current administration is increasing our exposure to dangerous chemicals in ways we cannot exercise choice to avoid. Start a different thread for your own topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"FDA and EPA are both involved in chemicals used in food production. "

Great. So what have they been doing for the last 40 years?

Oh, right, EPA has been trying to boil the ocean by running down the path of carbon dioxide as a pollutant. Govt can't pave a road, but they're going to tell us how to fix the climate, whilst bankrupting us.

Whatever does that mean?

Anyway, during the GW Bush administration the EPA said it wasn't a pollutant, and even if it is, since it is dispersed globally in uniform concentrations in uniform concentrations the EPA could not regulate it. The Supreme Court found that the EPA was subject to a statutory requirement to take steps to reduce CO2 emissions. Massachusetts v. EPA, 549 U.S. 497 (2007)

[Anonymous]

Maha is about to get more chemicals in their food and the environment with the latest EPA ruling that allows "forever" chemicals back on vegetables.in the fields.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maha is about to get more chemicals in their food and the environment with the latest EPA ruling that allows "forever" chemicals back on vegetables.in the fields.

Pretty much this. And no, buying organic doesn't mean you escape PFAs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can blame and fatshame individuals for eating the wrong foods, but you have to hold corporations responsible for the overwhelming majority of environmental damage/pollution.

That's why.

This.

[Anonymous]

I really just HATE the idea of a more healthy America !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really just HATE the idea of a more healthy America !

Apparently MAHAs do because the Trump administration is actively working to expose us to chemicals to make us all less healthy.

[Anonymous]

MAHA! Also Trump just signed an exec order restricting individual states trom regulating AI.

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/columbus/report-links-data-center-to-rare-cancers-raising-questions-about-central-ohioans-safety/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MAHA! Also Trump just signed an exec order restricting individual states trom regulating AI.

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/columbus/report-links-data-center-to-rare-cancers-raising-questions-about-central-ohioans-safety/

"Report links data center to rare cancers, raising questions about central Ohioans’ safety"

MAHA!