Al Smith Dinner

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:spot on

Not spot on. Just a lame attempt at shaming by Gaffigan.

This reminds me of the Post's supposedly critical article on Harris's managerial skills: she expects staff to be prepared, she understands the subject before the briefing, etc. In other words, Oh, how awful of her to be on top of things!

And now Gaffigan: Oh, how awful that Kamala is doing a ton of campaigning and interviews, presenting her views to a range of audiences! Tsk!

He's following the Miss Manners rule of only teasing people about things they're proud of.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.

I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.

G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?

Some rightwing Catholic clergy in the U.S. have been actively telling parishioners to not follow the teachings of the Pope. Big no-no. These folks went from assailing "immoral" Bill Clinton and "cafeteria Catholics" to embracing Trump and attacking the Pope. It's nuts.

This might be news to you, but the Pope actually rarely speaks infallibly, and most of what he says is open to criticism. The Pope cannot do whatever he wants. The church is actually not as much of a dictatorship as you were led to believe.

It's also not an authority on morality as I was led.to believe growing up.

Hope you found that authority somewhere else then, and not just whatever makes you feel right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I kind of like how he doesn’t give a fk what he says. It used to bother me, but maybe part of me is sort of happy to see push back against the grievance Olympics and perpetual offense culture we live in today. Don’t get me wrong. I’m going to vote Harris, but I can see why a lot of young men like Trump. He isn’t a pssy and just says whatever he wants without care if someone is offended. Everyone is too scared to say anything in public these days. Whether it’s on a college campus or whatever.

He says whatever he wants because he has no filter. But he is absolutely a pssy as he has the thinnest skin in the country and whines about everything despite being born on third base with a gold spoon in his mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. What’s interesting is that the bigoted anti-Catholic poster who is rapid-fire posting here is almost certainly someone who defends the treatment of women in places like Saudi Arabia. Interesting to see the hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:spot on

Not spot on. Just a lame attempt at shaming by Gaffigan.

This reminds me of the Post's supposedly critical article on Harris's managerial skills: she expects staff to be prepared, she understands the subject before the briefing, etc. In other words, Oh, how awful of her to be on top of things!

And now Gaffigan: Oh, how awful that Kamala is doing a ton of campaigning and interviews, presenting her views to a range of audiences! Tsk!

He's following the Miss Manners rule of only teasing people about things they're proud of.

And yet Harris herself is not prepared, as we've witnessed in her interviews. What would you do on Day 1 as President? Um, I grew up in a middle class background...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.

I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.

G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?

Some rightwing Catholic clergy in the U.S. have been actively telling parishioners to not follow the teachings of the Pope. Big no-no. These folks went from assailing "immoral" Bill Clinton and "cafeteria Catholics" to embracing Trump and attacking the Pope. It's nuts.

This might be news to you, but the Pope actually rarely speaks infallibly, and most of what he says is open to criticism. The Pope cannot do whatever he wants. The church is actually not as much of a dictatorship as you were led to believe.

It's also not an authority on morality as I was led.to believe growing up.

Hope you found that authority somewhere else then, and not just whatever makes you feel right.

And I hope priests stop just doing what makes them feel right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:spot on

2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!

The election tradition white tie dinner… which was carried live across cable, YouTube, twitter, etc. and creates hundreds of millions of impressions via viral clipped content and Friday news articles?

Given that Trump has blown through every tradition from not doing 60 minutes to not participating in a peaceful transfer of power, I think you can give attendance at an elite coastal event a rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.

I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.

G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?

Catholics have a very strong social justice tradition. Caring for the poor, immigrants, those on the outskirts of society. Deeds (actions) over words (saying you love Jesus and quoting the Bible means nothing without actually SHOWING you do through actions). The nasty anti-immigrant stance of the GOP doesn’t sit well with social justice oriented Catholics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:spot on

2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!

The election tradition white tie dinner… which was carried live across cable, YouTube, twitter, etc. and creates hundreds of millions of impressions via viral clipped content and Friday news articles?

No one cares about the Al Smith dinner

You're in denial. Random single tweets, facebook posts (boomers!), tiktoks, instagram posts clipped from the event have 100k, 500k, even 1+ million views each. This is a hundred million dollars worth of free campaign advertising on the eve of the election, to sway undecideds and energize the base to turn out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:spot on

2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!

The election tradition white tie dinner… which was carried live across cable, YouTube, twitter, etc. and creates hundreds of millions of impressions via viral clipped content and Friday news articles?

Given that Trump has blown through every tradition from not doing 60 minutes to not participating in a peaceful transfer of power, I think you can give attendance at an elite coastal event a rest.

Such an irreverent event, yet here you are, coping and doing damage control in a DCUM thread Friday during work hours. lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He was quite funny. Didn’t watch the whole things, but it’s a shame Kamala didn’t show up. This would have been much better for her to attend than the terrible Fox interview

Nah. They wanted her there so Trump could try to humiliate her and then they would get the reaction shot - Harris embarrassed, a crowd of rich white dudes laughing at her. Then put that into commercials to beam all over the country.

Harris didn’t walk into the obvious trap. Smart lady.

Ps - the Al Harris Dinner is the definition of the Swamp that folks claim to hate. Money, religion, media, and politics all rolled into one.

It just makes her look like an outsider, which I guess she is. Anyone of any consequence with ties to NY was there- off the top of my head, Schumer, Hochul, Bloomberg, Kennedy's, Adams, DeBlasio... Heck Leticia James gave Trump a standing ovation. All of these are Dems or former Dems.

An outsider who isn't elderly and unfit like what we've had since 2017. Sign me up for that!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I kind of like how he doesn’t give a fk what he says. It used to bother me, but maybe part of me is sort of happy to see push back against the grievance Olympics and perpetual offense culture we live in today. Don’t get me wrong. I’m going to vote Harris, but I can see why a lot of young men like Trump. He isn’t a pssy and just says whatever he wants without care if someone is offended. Everyone is too scared to say anything in public these days. Whether it’s on a college campus or whatever.

He is the grievance Olympics. He is just constantly whining about everything. It might be what I hate most about him. He is way more annoying than the most annoying progs. And I can’t stand them either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. What’s interesting is that the bigoted anti-Catholic poster who is rapid-fire posting here is almost certainly someone who defends the treatment of women in places like Saudi Arabia. Interesting to see the hypocrisy.

Is that supposed to convince me why it is fine that you support how women are treated in Saudi Arabia? You are such a hypocrite. Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. What’s interesting is that the bigoted anti-Catholic poster who is rapid-fire posting here is almost certainly someone who defends the treatment of women in places like Saudi Arabia. Interesting to see the hypocrisy.

Is that supposed to convince me why it is fine that you support how women are treated in Saudi Arabia? You are such a hypocrite. Ridiculous.

What the hell are you babbling about? Do you need your meds adjusted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.

I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.

G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?

Some rightwing Catholic clergy in the U.S. have been actively telling parishioners to not follow the teachings of the Pope. Big no-no. These folks went from assailing "immoral" Bill Clinton and "cafeteria Catholics" to embracing Trump and attacking the Pope. It's nuts.

This might be news to you, but the Pope actually rarely speaks infallibly, and most of what he says is open to criticism. The Pope cannot do whatever he wants. The church is actually not as much of a dictatorship as you were led to believe.

Exactly what “teachings of the Pope” are these “right wing Catholic clergy” telling people not to follow?