Bus driver playing Christian Music

[Anonymous]

I think it’s inappropriate, but probably not unconstitutional, and even if it is it’s definitely not the hill I would die on, personally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is this really bothering? Are your non-Christian kids really this intolerant that they can’t listen to Christian music? I really don’t get why that would make anyone uncomfortable unless they are really really intolerant of other beliefs.

I love music from all religions. It’s fun to listen to.

If the bus driver is sitting there lecturing kids and trying to convert them, that would be a totally different answer from me, but this is kind of ridiculous.

We have a bus driver shortage. Complain about unsafe bus drivers, not ones playing some music.

It’s not intolerance, there are lots of Christians in positions of power trying to push the limits of the establishment clause all the time. They are well funded and organized and continuously bringing cases like the recent football coach one and passing laws like the Bible teaching law in Ohio. The only way (and the best way imo, in our best available system) to combat that is to also fight (legally) constantly over where the line is and should be. I think it’s fair to say that people don’t really care that much about whatever the particular thing in each of these cases is, it’s more about the continual tug of war over the whole concept. I think the bus music thing is probably a bad choice of battlefield and that’s why I would leave it alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this really bothering? Are your non-Christian kids really this intolerant that they can’t listen to Christian music? I really don’t get why that would make anyone uncomfortable unless they are really really intolerant of other beliefs.

I love music from all religions. It’s fun to listen to.

If the bus driver is sitting there lecturing kids and trying to convert them, that would be a totally different answer from me, but this is kind of ridiculous.

We have a bus driver shortage. Complain about unsafe bus drivers, not ones playing some music.

It’s not intolerance, there are lots of Christians in positions of power trying to push the limits of the establishment clause all the time. They are well funded and organized and continuously bringing cases like the recent football coach one and passing laws like the Bible teaching law in Ohio. The only way (and the best way imo, in our best available system) to combat that is to also fight (legally) constantly over where the line is and should be. I think it’s fair to say that people don’t really care that much about whatever the particular thing in each of these cases is, it’s more about the continual tug of war over the whole concept. I think the bus music thing is probably a bad choice of battlefield and that’s why I would leave it alone.

You want to bring a religion war in public school?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has told my that their bus driver plays extremely loud Christian music on their bus every day on a Christian radio station that also talks about God/Jesus/the Bible. This is a concern for us as we are not Christian. Considering FCPS is a public school district, is there anything we can do?

Maybe this is an opportunity to teach your kids to be tolerant, inclusive and understand that the world is diverse. In FCPS, people with different religions should have equal opportunity to practice their believes. After all, all FCPS students have to pause their schooling so that some students can celebrate their religious holidays. At least, the bus driver's behavior won't cause learning loss.

Perhaps employees of a public school system could use this as an opportunity to be tolerant, inclusive and understand that the world is more than christians. Changing a radio station to as to not offend everyone else is a very small ask.

but that still leaves the student with a missed opportunity of receiving a valuable lesson in tolerance, which the student needs in their long life ahead even more than the part-time bus driver?
Parenting 101: teach tolerance to your own kid before teaching ways to hate a bus driver for their radio station preference.

What tolerance does the child need to learn? That religion shouldn’t be shoved down their throat? I agree, but again, that onus is on the driver. No need to force students of a public school to have religious propaganda shoved in their face by a public school employee.

If you think asking someone who represents public schools to avoid religious propaganda as ‘hate’, well I think it’s clear what side you’re on. And it’s not the side of tolerance for all.

It’s clear that you as a parent also don’t understand what tolerance means and also don’t understand that music from a radio is not “shoved in their face.” You must also think that the music at the grocery store is “shoved in your face.” Do you ask them to change it?

No. But I also wouldn't shop in a grocery store that played music I didn't want to listen to. I have choices. The kids riding the bus do not.

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Anonymous wrote:OP again. One of the songs they can remember is "I can only imagine".

That particular song hit the top 40 and was also played on secular stations. I’ll die your dc is old enough to know it’s a Christian station, but just a PSA that sometimes the music resonates a wider audience.

As a Christian, I think it’s okay to ask the driver to switch channels. They can listen to their music on their own time. I’d say the same thing if the music had profanity.

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Anonymous wrote:OP again. One of the songs they can remember is "I can only imagine".

That particular song hit the top 40 and was also played on secular stations. I believe your dc is old enough to know it’s a Christian station, but just a PSA that sometimes the music resonates a wider audience.

As a Christian, I think it’s okay to ask the driver to switch channels. They can listen to their music on their own time. I’d say the same thing if the music had profanity.

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Oh, and I think instrumental is different than music with words. I don’t care what roots the music has, if there aren’t words. I care very much about the language.

[Anonymous]

My DC loves all kinds of music, so if they were on that bus, they would have preferred the song playing over the noise. Each parent has a choice of how to raise their own child, and we teach celebrating diversity and tolerance. By the way, we’re not Christian.

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Anonymous wrote:They learn the unfortunate unsophistication of adults who somehow don't understand the separation of church and state.

It should be a two way street.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this really bothering? Are your non-Christian kids really this intolerant that they can’t listen to Christian music? I really don’t get why that would make anyone uncomfortable unless they are really really intolerant of other beliefs.

I love music from all religions. It’s fun to listen to.

If the bus driver is sitting there lecturing kids and trying to convert them, that would be a totally different answer from me, but this is kind of ridiculous.

We have a bus driver shortage. Complain about unsafe bus drivers, not ones playing some music.

It’s not intolerance, there are lots of Christians in positions of power trying to push the limits of the establishment clause all the time. They are well funded and organized and continuously bringing cases like the recent football coach one and passing laws like the Bible teaching law in Ohio. The only way (and the best way imo, in our best available system) to combat that is to also fight (legally) constantly over where the line is and should be. I think it’s fair to say that people don’t really care that much about whatever the particular thing in each of these cases is, it’s more about the continual tug of war over the whole concept. I think the bus music thing is probably a bad choice of battlefield and that’s why I would leave it alone.

There are like zero Christians in power on the Fairfax County school board, and very few Christians on the board of supervisors.

You are using a fake argument.

Teach your kids tolerance.

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Anonymous wrote:They learn the unfortunate unsophistication of adults who somehow don't understand the separation of church and state.

It should be a two way street.

Can you elaborate on how you think separation of church and state is a two way street?

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this really bothering? Are your non-Christian kids really this intolerant that they can’t listen to Christian music? I really don’t get why that would make anyone uncomfortable unless they are really really intolerant of other beliefs.

I love music from all religions. It’s fun to listen to.

If the bus driver is sitting there lecturing kids and trying to convert them, that would be a totally different answer from me, but this is kind of ridiculous.

We have a bus driver shortage. Complain about unsafe bus drivers, not ones playing some music.

It’s not intolerance, there are lots of Christians in positions of power trying to push the limits of the establishment clause all the time. They are well funded and organized and continuously bringing cases like the recent football coach one and passing laws like the Bible teaching law in Ohio. The only way (and the best way imo, in our best available system) to combat that is to also fight (legally) constantly over where the line is and should be. I think it’s fair to say that people don’t really care that much about whatever the particular thing in each of these cases is, it’s more about the continual tug of war over the whole concept. I think the bus music thing is probably a bad choice of battlefield and that’s why I would leave it alone.

There are like zero Christians in power on the Fairfax County school board, and very few Christians on the board of supervisors.

You are using a fake argument.

Teach your kids tolerance.

Why is it always christians wanting tolerance toward them, but not remotely sharing the sentiment in the reverse?

[Anonymous]

This doesn’t bother me but I definitely think people would see it differently if it was music from other religions. I think a rule that says no religious music at all would be fair.

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Anonymous wrote:Get used to it if Trump wins. Christian music will be the norm.

Yup

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this really bothering? Are your non-Christian kids really this intolerant that they can’t listen to Christian music? I really don’t get why that would make anyone uncomfortable unless they are really really intolerant of other beliefs.

I love music from all religions. It’s fun to listen to.

If the bus driver is sitting there lecturing kids and trying to convert them, that would be a totally different answer from me, but this is kind of ridiculous.

We have a bus driver shortage. Complain about unsafe bus drivers, not ones playing some music.

It’s not intolerance, there are lots of Christians in positions of power trying to push the limits of the establishment clause all the time. They are well funded and organized and continuously bringing cases like the recent football coach one and passing laws like the Bible teaching law in Ohio. The only way (and the best way imo, in our best available system) to combat that is to also fight (legally) constantly over where the line is and should be. I think it’s fair to say that people don’t really care that much about whatever the particular thing in each of these cases is, it’s more about the continual tug of war over the whole concept. I think the bus music thing is probably a bad choice of battlefield and that’s why I would leave it alone.

You want to bring a religion war in public school?

Public schools accommodate some religions that require multiple prayer times throughout the day. FCPS offers designated prayer rooms for use during school hours. The concept of separation of church and state has grey areas.