TJ Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Using low-income Asian Americans as a cover to admit others based on non-merit criteria is an insult to them. Like all Asian Americans, low-income Asians also prefer to "earn" their admission through their own efforts rather than accept offers that would place at the bottom of the class.

So they declined their offers?

The new admissions process has been extending offers randomly to all students including Asian Americans based on non-merit criteria, regardless of their middle school readiness in math, english, and science. Parents assess their child's likelihood of success or struggle at TJ and decide whether to accept or reject the offer accordingly. As involved as Asian parents are, they dont appear to be hesitating to reject their offer if they believe their child would struggle at the bottom of the class at TJ. One more filtering mechanism why there aren't any Asians in the bottom quartile of the current classes.

This is bizarre nonsense. I doubt you will ever realize or admit this but other posters should keep it in mind when they read your posts.

DP. It's not entirely random but it is far less merit based and is more random than the previous method.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using low-income Asian Americans as a cover to admit others based on non-merit criteria is an insult to them. Like all Asian Americans, low-income Asians also prefer to "earn" their admission through their own efforts rather than accept offers that would place at the bottom of the class.

So they declined their offers?

The new admissions process has been extending offers randomly to all students including Asian Americans based on non-merit criteria, regardless of their middle school readiness in math, english, and science. Parents assess their child's likelihood of success or struggle at TJ and decide whether to accept or reject the offer accordingly. As involved as Asian parents are, they dont appear to be hesitating to reject their offer if they believe their child would struggle at the bottom of the class at TJ. One more filtering mechanism why there aren't any Asians in the bottom quartile of the current classes.

This is bizarre nonsense. I doubt you will ever realize or admit this but other posters should keep it in mind when they read your posts.

DP. It's not entirely random but it is far less merit based and is more random than the previous method.

Of course it is not entirely random, since a predetermined diversity composition is being arrived consistently every year since admissions change. Within a particular ethnic student group, selection is all random since there is no objective stem evaluation criteria to differentiate the applicants. For instance, previously from the 1500 asian americans that apply each year the best 300+ were selected on a merit basis, now after admission change they admit random 300+ asian americans from their applicant pool. Since selection is now random, only half i.e, 150+ are of the same caliber as the ones that were selected under merit admissions. This is what is reflected with decline of asian americans students in 2025 NMSF list as well. Same is the case with the other ethnic groups, worse than before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using low-income Asian Americans as a cover to admit others based on non-merit criteria is an insult to them. Like all Asian Americans, low-income Asians also prefer to "earn" their admission through their own efforts rather than accept offers that would place at the bottom of the class.

So they declined their offers?

The new admissions process has been extending offers randomly to all students including Asian Americans based on non-merit criteria, regardless of their middle school readiness in math, english, and science. Parents assess their child's likelihood of success or struggle at TJ and decide whether to accept or reject the offer accordingly. As involved as Asian parents are, they dont appear to be hesitating to reject their offer if they believe their child would struggle at the bottom of the class at TJ. One more filtering mechanism why there aren't any Asians in the bottom quartile of the current classes.

This is bizarre nonsense. I doubt you will ever realize or admit this but other posters should keep it in mind when they read your posts.

DP. It's not entirely random but it is far less merit based and is more random than the previous method.

Of course it is not entirely random, since a predetermined diversity composition is being arrived consistently every year since admissions change. Within a particular ethnic student group, selection is all random since there is no objective stem evaluation criteria to differentiate the applicants. For instance, previously from the 1500 asian americans that apply each year the best 300+ were selected on a merit basis, now after admission change they admit random 300+ asian americans from their applicant pool. Since selection is now random, only half i.e, 150+ are of the same caliber as the ones that were selected under merit admissions. This is what is reflected with decline of asian americans students in 2025 NMSF list as well. Same is the case with the other ethnic groups, worse than before.

PP. This is not true. The numbers are jumping around a bit.
2024 was the last class entering under the old system.


2028 2027 2026 2025 2024
Asian 315 340 330 299 355
Black 19 37 32 39 10
Hispanic 41 33 45 62 16
Multiracial 34 35 26 27 29
White 140 105 117 123 86

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using low-income Asian Americans as a cover to admit others based on non-merit criteria is an insult to them. Like all Asian Americans, low-income Asians also prefer to "earn" their admission through their own efforts rather than accept offers that would place at the bottom of the class.

So they declined their offers?

The new admissions process has been extending offers randomly to all students including Asian Americans based on non-merit criteria, regardless of their middle school readiness in math, english, and science. Parents assess their child's likelihood of success or struggle at TJ and decide whether to accept or reject the offer accordingly. As involved as Asian parents are, they dont appear to be hesitating to reject their offer if they believe their child would struggle at the bottom of the class at TJ. One more filtering mechanism why there aren't any Asians in the bottom quartile of the current classes.

This is bizarre nonsense. I doubt you will ever realize or admit this but other posters should keep it in mind when they read your posts.

DP. It's not entirely random but it is far less merit based and is more random than the previous method.

Of course it is not entirely random, since a predetermined diversity composition is being arrived consistently every year since admissions change. Within a particular ethnic student group, selection is all random since there is no objective stem evaluation criteria to differentiate the applicants. For instance, previously from the 1500 asian americans that apply each year the best 300+ were selected on a merit basis, now after admission change they admit random 300+ asian americans from their applicant pool. Since selection is now random, only half i.e, 150+ are of the same caliber as the ones that were selected under merit admissions. This is what is reflected with decline of asian americans students in 2025 NMSF list as well. Same is the case with the other ethnic groups, worse than before.

PP. This is not true. The numbers are jumping around a bit.
2024 was the last class entering under the old system.


2028 2027 2026 2025 2024
Asian 315 340 330 299 355
Black 19 37 32 39 10
Hispanic 41 33 45 62 16
Multiracial 34 35 26 27 29
White 140 105 117 123 86

Welp the formatting didn't carry over very well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using low-income Asian Americans as a cover to admit others based on non-merit criteria is an insult to them. Like all Asian Americans, low-income Asians also prefer to "earn" their admission through their own efforts rather than accept offers that would place at the bottom of the class.

So they declined their offers?

The new admissions process has been extending offers randomly to all students including Asian Americans based on non-merit criteria, regardless of their middle school readiness in math, english, and science. Parents assess their child's likelihood of success or struggle at TJ and decide whether to accept or reject the offer accordingly. As involved as Asian parents are, they dont appear to be hesitating to reject their offer if they believe their child would struggle at the bottom of the class at TJ. One more filtering mechanism why there aren't any Asians in the bottom quartile of the current classes.

This is bizarre nonsense. I doubt you will ever realize or admit this but other posters should keep it in mind when they read your posts.

DP. It's not entirely random but it is far less merit based and is more random than the previous method.

Of course it is not entirely random, since a predetermined diversity composition is being arrived consistently every year since admissions change. Within a particular ethnic student group, selection is all random since there is no objective stem evaluation criteria to differentiate the applicants. For instance, previously from the 1500 asian americans that apply each year the best 300+ were selected on a merit basis, now after admission change they admit random 300+ asian americans from their applicant pool. Since selection is now random, only half i.e, 150+ are of the same caliber as the ones that were selected under merit admissions. This is what is reflected with decline of asian americans students in 2025 NMSF list as well. Same is the case with the other ethnic groups, worse than before.

The only “predetermined diversity composition” is having representation from ALL middle schools, not just a handful of affluent ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using low-income Asian Americans as a cover to admit others based on non-merit criteria is an insult to them. Like all Asian Americans, low-income Asians also prefer to "earn" their admission through their own efforts rather than accept offers that would place at the bottom of the class.

So they declined their offers?

The new admissions process has been extending offers randomly to all students including Asian Americans based on non-merit criteria, regardless of their middle school readiness in math, english, and science. Parents assess their child's likelihood of success or struggle at TJ and decide whether to accept or reject the offer accordingly. As involved as Asian parents are, they dont appear to be hesitating to reject their offer if they believe their child would struggle at the bottom of the class at TJ. One more filtering mechanism why there aren't any Asians in the bottom quartile of the current classes.

This is bizarre nonsense. I doubt you will ever realize or admit this but other posters should keep it in mind when they read your posts.

DP. It's not entirely random but it is far less merit based and is more random than the previous method.

Of course it is not entirely random, since a predetermined diversity composition is being arrived consistently every year since admissions change. Within a particular ethnic student group, selection is all random since there is no objective stem evaluation criteria to differentiate the applicants. For instance, previously from the 1500 asian americans that apply each year the best 300+ were selected on a merit basis, now after admission change they admit random 300+ asian americans from their applicant pool. Since selection is now random, only half i.e, 150+ are of the same caliber as the ones that were selected under merit admissions. This is what is reflected with decline of asian americans students in 2025 NMSF list as well. Same is the case with the other ethnic groups, worse than before.

The only “predetermined diversity composition” is having representation from ALL middle schools, not just a handful of affluent ones.

Racial manipulation historically has relied on legally justifiable racial proxies, and all middle school representation is one such bogus claim, impractical to implement. How so? Out of desperation and fear of losing the TJ reputation all at once, Admissions continues to plead the top three "affluent" middle schools to fill one-third of the fcps allocated quota (about 350), far from the bogus 1.5% designated seats claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using low-income Asian Americans as a cover to admit others based on non-merit criteria is an insult to them. Like all Asian Americans, low-income Asians also prefer to "earn" their admission through their own efforts rather than accept offers that would place at the bottom of the class.

So they declined their offers?

The new admissions process has been extending offers randomly to all students including Asian Americans based on non-merit criteria, regardless of their middle school readiness in math, english, and science. Parents assess their child's likelihood of success or struggle at TJ and decide whether to accept or reject the offer accordingly. As involved as Asian parents are, they dont appear to be hesitating to reject their offer if they believe their child would struggle at the bottom of the class at TJ. One more filtering mechanism why there aren't any Asians in the bottom quartile of the current classes.

This is bizarre nonsense. I doubt you will ever realize or admit this but other posters should keep it in mind when they read your posts.

DP. It's not entirely random but it is far less merit based and is more random than the previous method.

DP It's just the opposite. Previously it wasn't merit based at all. Kids were buying the test answers and only students from wealthy schools who could afford it would get in. At least niow there's some merit involved in the selection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

2028 2027 2026 2025 2024 Asian 315 340 330 299 355 Black 19 37 32 39 10 Hispanic 41 33 45 62 16 Multiracial 34 35 26 27 29 White 140 105 117 123 86

Would never know it based on the complaining but looks like Asian is enrollment is at a historic high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

2028 2027 2026 2025 2024 Asian 315 340 330 299 355 Black 19 37 32 39 10 Hispanic 41 33 45 62 16 Multiracial 34 35 26 27 29 White 140 105 117 123 86

Would never know it based on the complaining but looks like Asian is enrollment is at a historic high.

It’s still the huge majority of the school - which is notable given Asians are a sizable minority of the student body of the area - but I think you are reading the chart backwards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using low-income Asian Americans as a cover to admit others based on non-merit criteria is an insult to them. Like all Asian Americans, low-income Asians also prefer to "earn" their admission through their own efforts rather than accept offers that would place at the bottom of the class.

So they declined their offers?

The new admissions process has been extending offers randomly to all students including Asian Americans based on non-merit criteria, regardless of their middle school readiness in math, english, and science. Parents assess their child's likelihood of success or struggle at TJ and decide whether to accept or reject the offer accordingly. As involved as Asian parents are, they dont appear to be hesitating to reject their offer if they believe their child would struggle at the bottom of the class at TJ. One more filtering mechanism why there aren't any Asians in the bottom quartile of the current classes.

This is bizarre nonsense. I doubt you will ever realize or admit this but other posters should keep it in mind when they read your posts.

DP. It's not entirely random but it is far less merit based and is more random than the previous method.

DP It's just the opposite. Previously it wasn't merit based at all. Kids were buying the test answers and only students from wealthy schools who could afford it would get in. At least niow there's some merit involved in the selection.

But even after merit test removal, TJ admissions is confessing and confirming that majority of talented and hardworking students are in those three top "wealthy" middle schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

2028 2027 2026 2025 2024 Asian 315 340 330 299 355 Black 19 37 32 39 10 Hispanic 41 33 45 62 16 Multiracial 34 35 26 27 29 White 140 105 117 123 86

Would never know it based on the complaining but looks like Asian is enrollment is at a historic high.

The school got bigger in the class of 2025 and yet the asian population got smaller. The asian population had been getting bigger pretty much every year since the school opened as more and more asians moved into the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

2028 2027 2026 2025 2024 Asian 315 340 330 299 355 Black 19 37 32 39 10 Hispanic 41 33 45 62 16 Multiracial 34 35 26 27 29 White 140 105 117 123 86

Would never know it based on the complaining but looks like Asian is enrollment is at a historic high.

The school got bigger in the class of 2025 and yet the asian population got smaller. The asian population had been getting bigger pretty much every year since the school opened as more and more asians moved into the area.

So? One race doesn’t “own” the magnet school. Asians remain by far the overwhelming majority at TJ despite being a notable minority in the areas it draws from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

2028 2027 2026 2025 2024 Asian 315 340 330 299 355 Black 19 37 32 39 10 Hispanic 41 33 45 62 16 Multiracial 34 35 26 27 29 White 140 105 117 123 86

Would never know it based on the complaining but looks like Asian is enrollment is at a historic high.

The school got bigger in the class of 2025 and yet the asian population got smaller. The asian population had been getting bigger pretty much every year since the school opened as more and more asians moved into the area.

So? One race doesn’t “own” the magnet school. Asians remain by far the overwhelming majority at TJ despite being a notable minority in the areas it draws from.

TJ Admissions continues to solicit the Asian Americans students to be in the "overwhelming" majority.

[Anonymous]

I work with kids at TJ. The quality of student body today is the same as the average HS in the area. This is unfortunate for several reasons. 1) So much money spent on the labs that are now under utilized. Most students never get to the point where they can do any advance science/math/engineering. 2) the reason to come to this school used to be to have access to mentors and resources advanced innovative students need to be challenged. Now we send an implicit message to the kids that they need to care most about paper and the prestige of school they go to and not about the knowledge. It is a shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work with kids at TJ. The quality of student body today is the same as the average HS in the area. This is unfortunate for several reasons. 1) So much money spent on the labs that are now under utilized. Most students never get to the point where they can do any advance science/math/engineering. 2) the reason to come to this school used to be to have access to mentors and resources advanced innovative students need to be challenged. Now we send an implicit message to the kids that they need to care most about paper and the prestige of school they go to and not about the knowledge. It is a shame.

It is unfortunate.
https://tjhsst.fcps.edu/node/6239
Current classes have significant number of students who struggle to complete the core science courses, which are prerequisites for the AP, advanced Electives, and Senior research labs.