Pandemonium in the UK/Ireland

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just curious as to why it is always up to European countries and white countries to have never ending acceptance of mass migration. Any time European countries want to preserve their heritage and identity of is 'racist'. Yet you don't see the same liberal outrage directed at countries like Japan, South Korea, China, etc. who are all wealthy nations that could share their development but they don't because they firmly want to stay Asian only.

People will just have to to accept cultures were never meant to mix. People of different races weren't meant to mix. People of different nations weren't meant to mix. It's fine to interact, but there is just too much tension based on any number of identity issues. What's Ireland going to do when the the entire Irish population is overwhelmed by foreigners who have no ethnic background from Ireland, know zero Celtic, and have no traditions associated with something as basic as knowing Irish dance, folk music or folklore? What happens is Irish culture and heritage dies.

Globalists and liberals who think everyone can mix and sing kumbaya together for the rest of history are living in a Dreamland. Multiculturalism is a sham that is code word for cultural suicide. I just don't understand why any country would or should sign up for it and why people think it is good. Humans are just tribal creatures by nature and need to stick to their own. There's nothing wrong with it.

Asian countries didn’t invade these countries or interfere to spread democracy. That was the delusional West.

You break it, you buy it

Ohh yes, Ireland invaded sooooo many countries.

And lol. China and Japan invaded many countries in their history. Someone is oblivious to the entire history of Imperial Japan. Even Muslim countries invade tons of other countries through millennia of world histories.

You break it you buy......dumb logic for European countries only.

How do you know these countries don’t get migrants? Egypt and Libya get tons of migrants from Africa and the broader ME. All of North Africa does and they complain about it.

Saudi Arabia gets tons of Ethiopian and Filipino migrants. Japan gets migrants too. UAE is mostly Indians and ex pats. Dubai is pretty much Las Vegas now and you don’t think they don’t say their culture is eroding because it’s getting more secular and Westernized?

These frustrations with immigration are not only special to Ireland.

Open your eyes. It happens everywhere

I know- pakistanis have been complaining about refugees from afghanistan since the 80s. Its so bad that when the Taliban took over and the US occupation ended, the Pakistani government forced pathans who were 3 generations born in refugee camps in Pakistan on buses and dumped them in Afghanistan. a lot of pakistanis (especialy those who are PAthans from teh afghani province in pakistan) thought it was cruel but the Punjabi, sindhi and Urdu Speaking pakistanis dont want aghani culture to take hold since Islamo-facism has already realy battered pakistani cuture and society and we cannot deal with the backwards beliefs about women and education and 'honor' etc..

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing the murder rampage was seized on by Russia who stirred things up with misinformation. Much like here, it’s easy to fool the simple-minded people.

So the young girls weren’t killed by a non-native to the country?

They were killed by a Brit born non native.

The thing is he should be given the death penalty. Not sure why Uk doesn’t have that. How can a killer of kids not get killed? Why use taxpayer dollars to make knife wielding lunatics live a seemingly happy and balanced life in jail? European jails are a joke

Because when you kill a murderer, you become a murderer.

We can come up with solutions that do not rely on violence.

I'm sorry - but for such a heinous crime the death penalty should be on the table. My mostly liberal Gen Z DD agrees.

+1. Agree. Psycho mass murders should get death penalty. The end.

What about all the other institutions that commit and knowingly cause mass deaths? Our government and military, for one. Corporations that knowingly poison us and the environment. Billionaires that knowingly hoard resources while many stave. You guys only see violence on an individual level. Consider what is *driving* this rage in everyone! ECONOMIC STRESS AND INEQUALITY.

We will never solve the problem if we can't be honest about the cause. The problem is societal. The gulf between have and have not is growing at a rapid clip. People who have never been have nots are finding themselves facing new economic pressures and they are lashing out.

The violence will only increase until we admit why it's happening and do something about it. Throwing individual people in jail for "violence" while ignoring the societal issues causing the "violence" and the violence perpetrated by institutions and capitalism itself will not restore peace.

Expect more of these episodes, not less, as wealth inequality grows and the climate and environment goes to shit. If humans don't learn to share soon, we are doomed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing the murder rampage was seized on by Russia who stirred things up with misinformation. Much like here, it’s easy to fool the simple-minded people.

So the young girls weren’t killed by a non-native to the country?

They were killed by a Brit born non native.

The thing is he should be given the death penalty. Not sure why Uk doesn’t have that. How can a killer of kids not get killed? Why use taxpayer dollars to make knife wielding lunatics live a seemingly happy and balanced life in jail? European jails are a joke

Because when you kill a murderer, you become a murderer.

We can come up with solutions that do not rely on violence.

I'm sorry - but for such a heinous crime the death penalty should be on the table. My mostly liberal Gen Z DD agrees.

+1. Agree. Psycho mass murders should get death penalty. The end.

What about all the other institutions that commit and knowingly cause mass deaths? Our government and military, for one. Corporations that knowingly poison us and the environment. Billionaires that knowingly hoard resources while many stave. You guys only see violence on an individual level. Consider what is *driving* this rage in everyone! ECONOMIC STRESS AND INEQUALITY.

We will never solve the problem if we can't be honest about the cause. The problem is societal. The gulf between have and have not is growing at a rapid clip. People who have never been have nots are finding themselves facing new economic pressures and they are lashing out.

The violence will only increase until we admit why it's happening and do something about it. Throwing individual people in jail for "violence" while ignoring the societal issues causing the "violence" and the violence perpetrated by institutions and capitalism itself will not restore peace.

Expect more of these episodes, not less, as wealth inequality grows and the climate and environment goes to shit. If humans don't learn to share soon, we are doomed.

Whatever troll. Poor people are just as deserving of safety and as not committing violence as rich people and should be locked up if they do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just curious as to why it is always up to European countries and white countries to have never ending acceptance of mass migration. Any time European countries want to preserve their heritage and identity of is 'racist'. Yet you don't see the same liberal outrage directed at countries like Japan, South Korea, China, etc. who are all wealthy nations that could share their development but they don't because they firmly want to stay Asian only.

People will just have to to accept cultures were never meant to mix. People of different races weren't meant to mix. People of different nations weren't meant to mix. It's fine to interact, but there is just too much tension based on any number of identity issues. What's Ireland going to do when the the entire Irish population is overwhelmed by foreigners who have no ethnic background from Ireland, know zero Celtic, and have no traditions associated with something as basic as knowing Irish dance, folk music or folklore? What happens is Irish culture and heritage dies.

Globalists and liberals who think everyone can mix and sing kumbaya together for the rest of history are living in a Dreamland. Multiculturalism is a sham that is code word for cultural suicide. I just don't understand why any country would or should sign up for it and why people think it is good. Humans are just tribal creatures by nature and need to stick to their own. There's nothing wrong with it.

Asian countries didn’t invade these countries or interfere to spread democracy. That was the delusional West.

You break it, you buy it

Uh... maybe read a book. The history of Islam is a history of invasion - from the Arabian Peninsula to Central Asia to Africa to the gates of Vienna. And please do tell the people of Asia and the South Pacific that they weren't actually invaded by Japan less than a hundred years ago. Just a bad dream.

Uh, we aren’t talking about centuries ago. I am talking about today.

Today, the US and EU are the prime colonialist forces so you break, you buy.

The Islamic empire expansions also didn’t last too well because of globalization, race mixing from Moor to white, immigration and too much war . They lost their Islamic religion in Southern Europe back to Christianity.

Again, the colonial empire of today is the West and much like the East before them, they will also lose their culture and standing over time due to the same forces I mentioned above but all roads lead back to war as the cause of immigration and bankrupting empires. It happened with the Roman Empire too. Too much immigration and too much war/foreign spending and not more isolationism

You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I know exactly what it means. The US and NATO are a neo colonial force. What exactly do you think an American company Blackrock buying up Ukraine and Halliburton in Iraq is if not colonialism? These wars are boosting our economies. It’s a nation building enterprise by another nation which is exactly what colonialism is

Ukraine has been begging for US assistance as they are literally being colonized by Russia.

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Now you have Muslim and asylum seekers patrolling areas with knives and petrol bombs destroying property and attacking native Britons!

This is out of control on both sides.

[Anonymous]

More attacks on Pubs and patrons by Muslim immigrants in UK. There are 2 sides to this story.

https://decripto.org/en/riots-in-england-muslim-gangs-attack-pubs-in-pursuit-of-british-citizens-shocking-videos-from-birmingham/

I can see why people in UK are pissed. Public money goes to support them when they arrive and this is what you get in return. You help a small number and u can get them the proper education and assimilate them. But when you have millions, there is no need to assimilate and you get ethnic enclaves that do not become part of the country..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More attacks on Pubs and patrons by Muslim immigrants in UK. There are 2 sides to this story.

https://decripto.org/en/riots-in-england-muslim-gangs-attack-pubs-in-pursuit-of-british-citizens-shocking-videos-from-birmingham/

I can see why people in UK are pissed. Public money goes to support them when they arrive and this is what you get in return. You help a small number and u can get them the proper education and assimilate them. But when you have millions, there is no need to assimilate and you get ethnic enclaves that do not become part of the country..

They’re attacking because their mosques got attacked first. These nationalist guys didn’t even go after the right immigrants in their rage. The killer wasn’t Muslim. That was social media fake news.

Much like Middle East, it’s a mistake or mistaken identity which then turns to chaos. Great job Brits. Though I think they did it on purpose so that Muslims would retaliate and they’d have a story to prove their point

[Anonymous]

I love the way natural born citizens who have firmly embraced western values are called white supremacists when simply pointing out that *some* (ahem, let’s be real…it’s a growing number and rather scary when they congregate in the streets to protest Israel in support of Hamas) Muslim extremist newcomers aren’t assimilating and instead seem hell bent on things like: death to western values, relegating women to second class citizens, no tolerance for the lgbtq community…or anyone who isn’t *just like them* (meaning looks like them and embraces the same brand of religious extremism).

Put another way:

The citizens are being criticized for not tolerating the newcomers who clearly don’t tolerate the local community and societal norms.

^^^
That’s a powder keg ready to explode.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love the way natural born citizens who have firmly embraced western values are called white supremacists when simply pointing out that *some* (ahem, let’s be real…it’s a growing number and rather scary when they congregate in the streets to protest Israel in support of Hamas) Muslim extremist newcomers aren’t assimilating and instead seem hell bent on things like: death to western values, relegating women to second class citizens, no tolerance for the lgbtq community…or anyone who isn’t *just like them* (meaning looks like them and embraces the same brand of religious extremism).

Put another way:

The citizens are being criticized for not tolerating the newcomers who clearly don’t tolerate the local community and societal norms.

^^^
That’s a powder keg ready to explode.

Well put.👍

If they come to the UK for a better life that they had in their home country, better assimilate and be part of the UK culture. Don’t bring your baggage with you for your crappy country that you had to flee from and recreate the same problems in the UK…..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the way natural born citizens who have firmly embraced western values are called white supremacists when simply pointing out that *some* (ahem, let’s be real…it’s a growing number and rather scary when they congregate in the streets to protest Israel in support of Hamas) Muslim extremist newcomers aren’t assimilating and instead seem hell bent on things like: death to western values, relegating women to second class citizens, no tolerance for the lgbtq community…or anyone who isn’t *just like them* (meaning looks like them and embraces the same brand of religious extremism).

Put another way:

The citizens are being criticized for not tolerating the newcomers who clearly don’t tolerate the local community and societal norms.

^^^
That’s a powder keg ready to explode.

Well put.👍

If they come to the UK for a better life that they had in their home country, better assimilate and be part of the UK culture. Don’t bring your baggage with you for your crappy country that you had to flee from and recreate the same problems in the UK…..

Nobody is saying this out loud:

They are coming because climate change has made most of their countries uninhabitable and they are strategically laying the foundation for a new place where their religion/culture dominate.

It makes sense.

But it’s not okay to force non-western values on civilized societies built upon western values. So can we stop with the knee jerk “You are a racist/white supremacist” garbage?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing the murder rampage was seized on by Russia who stirred things up with misinformation. Much like here, it’s easy to fool the simple-minded people.

So the young girls weren’t killed by a non-native to the country?

They were killed by a Brit born non native.

The thing is he should be given the death penalty. Not sure why Uk doesn’t have that. How can a killer of kids not get killed? Why use taxpayer dollars to make knife wielding lunatics live a seemingly happy and balanced life in jail? European jails are a joke

Because when you kill a murderer, you become a murderer.

We can come up with solutions that do not rely on violence.

I'm sorry - but for such a heinous crime the death penalty should be on the table. My mostly liberal Gen Z DD agrees.

+1. Agree. Psycho mass murders should get death penalty. The end.

What about all the other institutions that commit and knowingly cause mass deaths? Our government and military, for one. Corporations that knowingly poison us and the environment. Billionaires that knowingly hoard resources while many stave. You guys only see violence on an individual level. Consider what is *driving* this rage in everyone! ECONOMIC STRESS AND INEQUALITY.

We will never solve the problem if we can't be honest about the cause. The problem is societal. The gulf between have and have not is growing at a rapid clip. People who have never been have nots are finding themselves facing new economic pressures and they are lashing out.

The violence will only increase until we admit why it's happening and do something about it. Throwing individual people in jail for "violence" while ignoring the societal issues causing the "violence" and the violence perpetrated by institutions and capitalism itself will not restore peace.

Expect more of these episodes, not less, as wealth inequality grows and the climate and environment goes to shit. If humans don't learn to share soon, we are doomed.

Whatever troll. Poor people are just as deserving of safety and as not committing violence as rich people and should be locked up if they do so.

I'm curious to know how you read my post and somehow came away with the message "poor people aren't deserving of safety" when that was literally my point.

The owner class kills people en masse on a daily basis but we don't call it violence. They are actively causing and benefitting from climate change and the destruction of the environment. They are the ones that have orchestrated the economic desperation that is causing these blowups.

Regular people are at each other's throats, trying to figure out why all these bad things are happening. People will only get more violent as they get more desperate.

If you want to solve the problem, you have to restore prosperity and opportunity for EVERYONE, not just the wealthy few. Throwing everyone in jail for doing what they see as necessary to survive and secure a future for themselves and their families WILL NOT SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing the murder rampage was seized on by Russia who stirred things up with misinformation. Much like here, it’s easy to fool the simple-minded people.

So the young girls weren’t killed by a non-native to the country?

They were killed by a Brit born non native.

The thing is he should be given the death penalty. Not sure why Uk doesn’t have that. How can a killer of kids not get killed? Why use taxpayer dollars to make knife wielding lunatics live a seemingly happy and balanced life in jail? European jails are a joke

Because when you kill a murderer, you become a murderer.

We can come up with solutions that do not rely on violence.

I'm sorry - but for such a heinous crime the death penalty should be on the table. My mostly liberal Gen Z DD agrees.

+1. Agree. Psycho mass murders should get death penalty. The end.

What about all the other institutions that commit and knowingly cause mass deaths? Our government and military, for one. Corporations that knowingly poison us and the environment. Billionaires that knowingly hoard resources while many stave. You guys only see violence on an individual level. Consider what is *driving* this rage in everyone! ECONOMIC STRESS AND INEQUALITY.

We will never solve the problem if we can't be honest about the cause. The problem is societal. The gulf between have and have not is growing at a rapid clip. People who have never been have nots are finding themselves facing new economic pressures and they are lashing out.

The violence will only increase until we admit why it's happening and do something about it. Throwing individual people in jail for "violence" while ignoring the societal issues causing the "violence" and the violence perpetrated by institutions and capitalism itself will not restore peace.

Expect more of these episodes, not less, as wealth inequality grows and the climate and environment goes to shit. If humans don't learn to share soon, we are doomed.

Whatever troll. Poor people are just as deserving of safety and as not committing violence as rich people and should be locked up if they do so.

I'm curious to know how you read my post and somehow came away with the message "poor people aren't deserving of safety" when that was literally my point.

The owner class kills people en masse on a daily basis but we don't call it violence. They are actively causing and benefitting from climate change and the destruction of the environment. They are the ones that have orchestrated the economic desperation that is causing these blowups.

Regular people are at each other's throats, trying to figure out why all these bad things are happening. People will only get more violent as they get more desperate.

If you want to solve the problem, you have to restore prosperity and opportunity for EVERYONE, not just the wealthy few. Throwing everyone in jail for doing what they see as necessary to survive and secure a future for themselves and their families WILL NOT SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.

Killing little girls at a dance class is doing what’s “necessary to survive”? Are you high?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love the way natural born citizens who have firmly embraced western values are called white supremacists when simply pointing out that *some* (ahem, let’s be real…it’s a growing number and rather scary when they congregate in the streets to protest Israel in support of Hamas) Muslim extremist newcomers aren’t assimilating and instead seem hell bent on things like: death to western values, relegating women to second class citizens, no tolerance for the lgbtq community…or anyone who isn’t *just like them* (meaning looks like them and embraces the same brand of religious extremism).

Put another way:

The citizens are being criticized for not tolerating the newcomers who clearly don’t tolerate the local community and societal norms.

^^^
That’s a powder keg ready to explode.

Well put.👍

If they come to the UK for a better life that they had in their home country, better assimilate and be part of the UK culture. Don’t bring your baggage with you for your crappy country that you had to flee from and recreate the same problems in the UK…..

Nobody is saying this out loud:

They are coming because climate change has made most of their countries uninhabitable and they are strategically laying the foundation for a new place where their religion/culture dominate.

It makes sense.

But it’s not okay to force non-western values on civilized societies built upon western values. So can we stop with the knee jerk “You are a racist/white supremacist” garbage?

Climate change has zero to do with why they leave. You sound like Kamala Harris. It’s purely economics. If we are talking the Middle East, you will never ever find a Saudi or Emirati or Kuwaiti migrant because they are rich and these are places where the extremes of climate are maybe getting worse but are always extreme. . It’s purely economic.
The Gulf countries subsidize education through college and healthcare among other things. Most developed nations around the wolf have some system of socialism.

These other countries that create migrant crises? They do not. There is virtually no socialism in Africa, Afghanistan, Central America.


With no real socialist systems in their home countries allowed, the failures of capitalism without any safety net run rampant (no education, no public schools, no police because that’s paid by taxes)

If the Republicans get their way, our country will devolve the same way with the school choice and privatization of public schools. That’s step 1 to a anarchy society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More attacks on Pubs and patrons by Muslim immigrants in UK. There are 2 sides to this story.

https://decripto.org/en/riots-in-england-muslim-gangs-attack-pubs-in-pursuit-of-british-citizens-shocking-videos-from-birmingham/

I can see why people in UK are pissed. Public money goes to support them when they arrive and this is what you get in return. You help a small number and u can get them the proper education and assimilate them. But when you have millions, there is no need to assimilate and you get ethnic enclaves that do not become part of the country..

All the UK needs to do is address the issue to let people think their voices are heard, even if they don't take action. Not addressing the discontent is only going to make people more angry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing the murder rampage was seized on by Russia who stirred things up with misinformation. Much like here, it’s easy to fool the simple-minded people.

So the young girls weren’t killed by a non-native to the country?

They were killed by a Brit born non native.

The thing is he should be given the death penalty. Not sure why Uk doesn’t have that. How can a killer of kids not get killed? Why use taxpayer dollars to make knife wielding lunatics live a seemingly happy and balanced life in jail? European jails are a joke

Because when you kill a murderer, you become a murderer.

We can come up with solutions that do not rely on violence.

I'm sorry - but for such a heinous crime the death penalty should be on the table. My mostly liberal Gen Z DD agrees.

+1. Agree. Psycho mass murders should get death penalty. The end.

What about all the other institutions that commit and knowingly cause mass deaths? Our government and military, for one. Corporations that knowingly poison us and the environment. Billionaires that knowingly hoard resources while many stave. You guys only see violence on an individual level. Consider what is *driving* this rage in everyone! ECONOMIC STRESS AND INEQUALITY.

We will never solve the problem if we can't be honest about the cause. The problem is societal. The gulf between have and have not is growing at a rapid clip. People who have never been have nots are finding themselves facing new economic pressures and they are lashing out.

The violence will only increase until we admit why it's happening and do something about it. Throwing individual people in jail for "violence" while ignoring the societal issues causing the "violence" and the violence perpetrated by institutions and capitalism itself will not restore peace.

Expect more of these episodes, not less, as wealth inequality grows and the climate and environment goes to shit. If humans don't learn to share soon, we are doomed.

Whatever troll. Poor people are just as deserving of safety and as not committing violence as rich people and should be locked up if they do so.

I'm curious to know how you read my post and somehow came away with the message "poor people aren't deserving of safety" when that was literally my point.

The owner class kills people en masse on a daily basis but we don't call it violence. They are actively causing and benefitting from climate change and the destruction of the environment. They are the ones that have orchestrated the economic desperation that is causing these blowups.

Regular people are at each other's throats, trying to figure out why all these bad things are happening. People will only get more violent as they get more desperate.

If you want to solve the problem, you have to restore prosperity and opportunity for EVERYONE, not just the wealthy few. Throwing everyone in jail for doing what they see as necessary to survive and secure a future for themselves and their families WILL NOT SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.

Killing little girls at a dance class is doing what’s “necessary to survive”? Are you high?

You're bent on misunderstanding what I'm saying, yet you called me a troll.

People are angry. They are despairing. People in despair do awful, sometimes violent things that don't make any sense. Americans should understand that better than anyone since we serve as cannon fodder for desperate, despairing, rage filled young men on a daily basis.

Expect the rage and despair and violence to continue, so long as we as a society allow people to live in circumstances that understably cause rage and despair and violence.

We have exploited the global south for profit for hundreds of years. We've mettled in their politics, robbed them of their resources, and destroyed the environment. And we wonder why they're angry, we wonder why they're flooding into our borders, and we wonder why they hate us.

Our own citizens are feeling increasing amounts of economic pressure. They resent their lowering standard of living, the perceived lack of opportunity, and the perceived favoritism of and competition from these migrants and refugees created by our governments and owner class.

The people screwing you are not your neighbors. The people screwing you are the ones with all the actual power and influence. That's the violence we need to address. That is my point. People are directing their anger and hate at the wrong people. Nowhere did I say it was acceptable to murder children.

But ask yourself why we look the other way when our militaries murder children on a regular basis, when corporation poison their drinking water, and enslave them. But we lose our shit when individuals commit violence on a much smaller scale.