How did you get so dumb? Did your nazi mother feed you too much lead or did you shrink your brain on meth? |
In particular, if the war in Iran happens and the fall of Iran and Saudi Arabia happens along with a weakened Israel, this will definitely change the sands back to leftism significantly because these three nations in the Middle East are the reason the Middle East is religiously and culturally right wing now. It’s their export and those 3 nations support all the right wing movements in the ME |
Along with the US as well which supported and fought alongside Russia and Iran against ISIS in Syria supported by Israel and Saudi Arabia?
But fought against Iran’s Houthis in Yemen in support of Israel and Saudi Arabia? It’s a huge problem when paramilitaries get great salaries. For whatever reason, people ignored that the San Bernardino ISIS killer and the Paris ISIS got significant bank transfers over 50k after the attack. Mercenary armies are the #1 cause of immigration and instability there. If the Pentagon and intelligence agencies and Saudi, Iran, US, and Israel would stop funding and arming essentially the Proud Boys or incel single males of the Middle East, immigration would stop and in fact immigrants would go BACK like what Trump and Putin accomplished with Syria. Syrian refugees returned back to Syria after Isis was squashed |
You avoid the topic. This all trigger by the murder of the children. Was there misinfo about religion? Yes. Was there misinfo that 3 little girl dead? No. Do UK gov/BBC want to talk about the murder? No because bad optic. People rightly anger by the murdering. People should have right to voice displeasure. But, because left leaning people have so much compassion for immigration and child of immigration, it look bad when immigration or child of the immigration do bad things because their victimhood less sympathic. Do not dismiss the murder by using bad name for people who want children to not be killed. Government should have frank discussion on violence, integration of immigrant community. To ignore mean people get more angry and lash out when they ignored. Calling bad name because I want children to not be killed is very low class behavior. |
The British government helped create the mess that is currently the Middle East; the tensions between India and Pakistan and Kashmir. They colonized cultures in every continent. They imported labor from the West Indies after WWII to help rebuild the country.
You reap what you sow. And my Brit HD agrees. |
wait.. is this sarcasm? https://www.britannica.com/event/Second-Sino-Japanese-War Please tell me this was sarcasm. If not, please don't post about stuff you know nothing about. That is how fake news gets spread. Japan colonized parts of Asia up to the run up and during WWII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territories_acquired_by_the_Empire_of_Japan |
Excellent post! So often religion is used as the reason for cultural mores when the religion in fact demands no such thing. |
No one is saying children shouldn't be getting slaughtered. That's why we have been calling for stricter gun control legislation in the US. While the trigger was the murders, the people rioting, beating up the cops, etc. are rioting against Muslims and refugees, neither of whom have anything to do with this event. They're working off their bigotry and hatred. If you think that these people are right, then you're part of the problem, and just as bigoted as they are. |
Russia is so desperate for soldiers they must have sent all of their trolls who speak decent English to Ukraine, and now all they're left with are ones who apparently learned English by watching old Yakov Smirnov routines. |
This is why I have no sympathy for the Brits. They have sown so much mayhem and misery in the world over the centuries. If England was a person that died it would go straight to hell, if there were such a thing. It’s too bad there’s no way for people to sue them, but they’re already broke. |
The Ottoman Empire didn’t Islamify Greece or the Balkans or the Caucuses. All of SouthEastern Europe would be Muslim if that were the case. Christianity and Islam are invader/colonizer religions but before WW1, the Islamic Middle East was far more liberal than Europe. It was the Brits in fact that criminalized homosexuality in the Middle East not the sharia law which was not practiced by the Ottomans. The Brits hated the Ottomans having control of the Red Sea which made traveling to India/getting to the Indian Ocean difficult. They made back room deals with the most extremist Islamist Saudi and Yemeni sects they could find called the Salafis/Wahhabis (these are like the ultra Hasidic Jews or super super right wing fundie Christian sect you could find). They believed in jihad, crusading, women can’t drive, secular music is immoral, we need to stone people to death etc etc). The Brits made a deal that to give these guys ARMS to fight the liberal city-slick Ottomans off the Red Sea and away from Saudi Arabia. Thus, it began. This was all before the end of WW2 in 1918. At the same time, the Brits promised the Jews their own state in Jerusalem with the Balfour Declaration in favor of helping dismantle the Ottoman Empire. So essentially, the Brits created the mess in the Middle East by wanting to dismantle the liberal Turks/Ottoman Empire and promising Arab and Jewish nationalism/revivalism and playing to their right wing religious ambitions of a Jewish state and Muslim state. This was something antithetical to the Ottoman Empire itself which stressed multi faith states. After the right wing backlash throughout the ME from the rural religious types , the Ottomans tried to save face by pretending to be a bit more religious but it failed and they lost stewardship over the Red Sea, Mecca, and Medina and the rest of the ME thanks to Brits using Arabs and Jewish independence ambitions to their advantage |
End of WW1* |
The people that got played the most by the Brit-Saudi alliance were the Turks or the Palestinians. To this day, you can’t say Free Palestine in Saudi Arabia without getting arrested. Kashoggi the pro Palestinian journalist was killed in Turkeys embassy as a message. It’s a deep sensitive spot for the Saudi kingdom because they know the Turks and half or more of the Arab world thinks of them as turncoats for collaborating with the Brits and the Zionists against their Turkish and Palestinian Muslim brothers. This is how people like OBL, a Saudi, were born and went against his family and country and got expelled.
The Palestinians of then didn’t understand why the Saudis would want the Brits so badly over the fellow Muslim Turks and why the so called religious Saudis would stand with the Brits after they promised Jerusalem to Israel. It was strictly because an Israeli state meant more Islamic pilgrimages to Mecca instead of Jerusalem (the second holiest city in Islam), and because Israel and Saudi Arabia wanted to man the Red Sea and the oil together with the Brits. So, the Palestinian issue has become a way to discredit Saudi Arabia by the other wannabe powers in the region like Turkey and Iran. Erdogan and Iran help Palestine as an F U to Saudi Arabia. Being the savior of the Palestinians has become a ploy by those in the Middle East that aren’t Arabs (like the Turks and the Iranians). Qatar was so close to kicking and blackballing Hamas out in 2019 for meeting in Iran and saying Arabs don’t care about Palestine, but Bibi told Qatar to continue funding Hamas because he thought it would diminish Iran’s power and leverage in the ME and increase his election prospects in Israel. |
Fair play to you, but as you say the British only helped to create the mess that is currently in the Middle East. The United States supported the State of Israel because Roosevelt and Churchill thought it would be a place to send Holocaust survivors and Jews who no longer felt safe in Europe and to keep them out of the US and Great Britain. |
A generation of Ukranians has been killed or will be killed in the war. At the Olympics, a Ukranian noted that over 400 Ukranian athletes have been killed in the war. |