Pandemonium in the UK/Ireland

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This is only a thread in a local region.

But the issue we're discussing is huge.

Our western children and their children will remember our generation as the gutless wonders who allowed the west to get destroyed.
We allowed shadowy power brokers - folks we don't even know who they are - to tell us that they're going to destroy our Judeo-Christian world, whether we like the idea or not. These shadowy figures consider themselves our overlords.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just curious as to why it is always up to European countries and white countries to have never ending acceptance of mass migration. Any time European countries want to preserve their heritage and identity of is 'racist'. Yet you don't see the same liberal outrage directed at countries like Japan, South Korea, China, etc. who are all wealthy nations that could share their development but they don't because they firmly want to stay Asian only.

People will just have to to accept cultures were never meant to mix. People of different races weren't meant to mix. People of different nations weren't meant to mix. It's fine to interact, but there is just too much tension based on any number of identity issues. What's Ireland going to do when the the entire Irish population is overwhelmed by foreigners who have no ethnic background from Ireland, know zero Celtic, and have no traditions associated with something as basic as knowing Irish dance, folk music or folklore? What happens is Irish culture and heritage dies.

Globalists and liberals who think everyone can mix and sing kumbaya together for the rest of history are living in a Dreamland. Multiculturalism is a sham that is code word for cultural suicide. I just don't understand why any country would or should sign up for it and why people think it is good. Humans are just tribal creatures by nature and need to stick to their own. There's nothing wrong with it.


Asian countries didn’t invade these countries or interfere to spread democracy. That was the delusional West.

You break it, you buy it


Japan didn’t actually invade the USA and didn’t actually ally with Hitler who was trying to conquer Europe? Hm.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing the murder rampage was seized on by Russia who stirred things up with misinformation. Much like here, it’s easy to fool the simple-minded people.


So the young girls weren’t killed by a non-native to the country?


They were killed by a Brit born non native.

The thing is he should be given the death penalty. Not sure why Uk doesn’t have that. How can a killer of kids not get killed? Why use taxpayer dollars to make knife wielding lunatics live a seemingly happy and balanced life in jail? European jails are a joke


Because when you kill a murderer, you become a murderer.

We can come up with solutions that do not rely on violence.


I'm sorry - but for such a heinous crime the death penalty should be on the table. My mostly liberal Gen Z DD agrees.


+1. Agree. Psycho mass murders should get death penalty. The end.


What about all the other institutions that commit and knowingly cause mass deaths? Our government and military, for one. Corporations that knowingly poison us and the environment. Billionaires that knowingly hoard resources while many stave. You guys only see violence on an individual level. Consider what is *driving* this rage in everyone! ECONOMIC STRESS AND INEQUALITY.

We will never solve the problem if we can't be honest about the cause. The problem is societal. The gulf between have and have not is growing at a rapid clip. People who have never been have nots are finding themselves facing new economic pressures and they are lashing out.

The violence will only increase until we admit why it's happening and do something about it. Throwing individual people in jail for "violence" while ignoring the societal issues causing the "violence" and the violence perpetrated by institutions and capitalism itself will not restore peace.

Expect more of these episodes, not less, as wealth inequality grows and the climate and environment goes to shit. If humans don't learn to share soon, we are doomed.


Whatever troll. Poor people are just as deserving of safety and as not committing violence as rich people and should be locked up if they do so.


I'm curious to know how you read my post and somehow came away with the message "poor people aren't deserving of safety" when that was literally my point.

The owner class kills people en masse on a daily basis but we don't call it violence. They are actively causing and benefitting from climate change and the destruction of the environment. They are the ones that have orchestrated the economic desperation that is causing these blowups.

Regular people are at each other's throats, trying to figure out why all these bad things are happening. People will only get more violent as they get more desperate.

If you want to solve the problem, you have to restore prosperity and opportunity for EVERYONE, not just the wealthy few. Throwing everyone in jail for doing what they see as necessary to survive and secure a future for themselves and their families WILL NOT SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.


Killing little girls at a dance class is doing what’s “necessary to survive”? Are you high?


You're bent on misunderstanding what I'm saying, yet you called me a troll.

People are angry. They are despairing. People in despair do awful, sometimes violent things that don't make any sense. Americans should understand that better than anyone since we serve as cannon fodder for desperate, despairing, rage filled young men on a daily basis.

Expect the rage and despair and violence to continue, so long as we as a society allow people to live in circumstances that understably cause rage and despair and violence.

We have exploited the global south for profit for hundreds of years. We've mettled in their politics, robbed them of their resources, and destroyed the environment. And we wonder why they're angry, we wonder why they're flooding into our borders, and we wonder why they hate us.

Our own citizens are feeling increasing amounts of economic pressure. They resent their lowering standard of living, the perceived lack of opportunity, and the perceived favoritism of and competition from these migrants and refugees created by our governments and owner class.

The people screwing you are not your neighbors. The people screwing you are the ones with all the actual power and influence. That's the violence we need to address. That is my point. People are directing their anger and hate at the wrong people. Nowhere did I say it was acceptable to murder children.

But ask yourself why we look the other way when our militaries murder children on a regular basis, when corporation poison their drinking water, and enslave them. But we lose our shit when individuals commit violence on a much smaller scale.


Though in this case you have a child of immigrant who lashed out to kill children. This is interesting because the murderer was in media for Dr. Who related item.

https://news.sky.com/story/bbc-removes-doctor-who-themed-children-in-need-advert-that-starred-southport-stabbing-suspect-13189841

but did not appear to fully integrate if he murder the little girl.

Why won't british media and government acknowledge that integration is difficulty? This may lead to discussion rather than violent.
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Anonymous wrote:More attacks on Pubs and patrons by Muslim immigrants in UK. There are 2 sides to this story.

https://decripto.org/en/riots-in-england-muslim-gangs-attack-pubs-in-pursuit-of-british-citizens-shocking-videos-from-birmingham/

I can see why people in UK are pissed. Public money goes to support them when they arrive and this is what you get in return. You help a small number and u can get them the proper education and assimilate them. But when you have millions, there is no need to assimilate and you get ethnic enclaves that do not become part of the country..



They’re attacking because their mosques got attacked first. These nationalist guys didn’t even go after the right immigrants in their rage. The killer wasn’t Muslim. That was social media fake news.

Much like Middle East, it’s a mistake or mistaken identity which then turns to chaos. Great job Brits. Though I think they did it on purpose so that Muslims would retaliate and they’d have a story to prove their point


The "killer" is a suspect, not a "killer." England still has the rule of law.
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Anonymous wrote:This is only a thread in a local region.

But the issue we're discussing is huge.

Our western children and their children will remember our generation as the gutless wonders who allowed the west to get destroyed.
We allowed shadowy power brokers - folks we don't even know who they are - to tell us that they're going to destroy our Judeo-Christian world, whether we like the idea or not. These shadowy figures consider themselves our overlords.


I am just as “Western” as anyone could be but I am NOT Judeo-Christian. Sorry to inform you that Europe has much more Pagan history than Christian. Just admit that you are the same as the Taliban but you just have a different religion.
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^Not going to rise to your bait, but you are part of the reason why unchecked immigration cannot work. I am probably more than a little pagan myself, but it's my kind of pagan, and I am not attacking your religion the way you are attacking mine.
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that this kind of hardline response is never taken against far-left rioters, like the ones we’ve seen here in the U.S. - intimidating people and defacing property. Different sides of the same coin, yet only one group is targeted for arrests.



Oh, you’ve noticed that, too, huh?

Yeah, that’s curious, isn’t it?


People are noticing, and noticing is half the battle:


Wow what a racist unhinged twitter account. This post tells us who you are.


Why shouldn't the same standard be use?

Government should treat all the same and not pick favorite.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just curious as to why it is always up to European countries and white countries to have never ending acceptance of mass migration. Any time European countries want to preserve their heritage and identity of is 'racist'. Yet you don't see the same liberal outrage directed at countries like Japan, South Korea, China, etc. who are all wealthy nations that could share their development but they don't because they firmly want to stay Asian only.

People will just have to to accept cultures were never meant to mix. People of different races weren't meant to mix. People of different nations weren't meant to mix. It's fine to interact, but there is just too much tension based on any number of identity issues. What's Ireland going to do when the the entire Irish population is overwhelmed by foreigners who have no ethnic background from Ireland, know zero Celtic, and have no traditions associated with something as basic as knowing Irish dance, folk music or folklore? What happens is Irish culture and heritage dies.

Globalists and liberals who think everyone can mix and sing kumbaya together for the rest of history are living in a Dreamland. Multiculturalism is a sham that is code word for cultural suicide. I just don't understand why any country would or should sign up for it and why people think it is good. Humans are just tribal creatures by nature and need to stick to their own. There's nothing wrong with it.


Asian countries didn’t invade these countries or interfere to spread democracy. That was the delusional West.

You break it, you buy it


Japan didn’t actually invade the USA and didn’t actually ally with Hitler who was trying to conquer Europe? Hm.



Grasping at straws I see. It seems people do not know the definition of recent history.

Japan isn’t part of these globalist organizations created after WW2 like NATO or the EU. Russia isn’t either and it’s in Europe. It was the US and Europe that decided open borders and spreading global democracy and fighting socialism because its close to Russia/communism was a super important goal. This in turn led to migration and wars in the Middle East, Africa, and Latin America all directly related to our Cold War policy. We supported right wing incel era/fringe movements from Latin America to the Middle East to Africa to everywhere else with millions of dollars and Pentagon weapons.

We are starting a new Cold War again. We never learn. Venezuela migrant crisis will continue to worsen and affect our border because we sanction and won’t allow a socialist President to win there. How is this our business?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing the murder rampage was seized on by Russia who stirred things up with misinformation. Much like here, it’s easy to fool the simple-minded people.


So the young girls weren’t killed by a non-native to the country?


They were killed by a Brit born non native.

The thing is he should be given the death penalty. Not sure why Uk doesn’t have that. How can a killer of kids not get killed? Why use taxpayer dollars to make knife wielding lunatics live a seemingly happy and balanced life in jail? European jails are a joke


Because when you kill a murderer, you become a murderer.

We can come up with solutions that do not rely on violence.


I'm sorry - but for such a heinous crime the death penalty should be on the table. My mostly liberal Gen Z DD agrees.


+1. Agree. Psycho mass murders should get death penalty. The end.


What about all the other institutions that commit and knowingly cause mass deaths? Our government and military, for one. Corporations that knowingly poison us and the environment. Billionaires that knowingly hoard resources while many stave. You guys only see violence on an individual level. Consider what is *driving* this rage in everyone! ECONOMIC STRESS AND INEQUALITY.

We will never solve the problem if we can't be honest about the cause. The problem is societal. The gulf between have and have not is growing at a rapid clip. People who have never been have nots are finding themselves facing new economic pressures and they are lashing out.

The violence will only increase until we admit why it's happening and do something about it. Throwing individual people in jail for "violence" while ignoring the societal issues causing the "violence" and the violence perpetrated by institutions and capitalism itself will not restore peace.

Expect more of these episodes, not less, as wealth inequality grows and the climate and environment goes to shit. If humans don't learn to share soon, we are doomed.


Whatever troll. Poor people are just as deserving of safety and as not committing violence as rich people and should be locked up if they do so.


I'm curious to know how you read my post and somehow came away with the message "poor people aren't deserving of safety" when that was literally my point.

The owner class kills people en masse on a daily basis but we don't call it violence. They are actively causing and benefitting from climate change and the destruction of the environment. They are the ones that have orchestrated the economic desperation that is causing these blowups.

Regular people are at each other's throats, trying to figure out why all these bad things are happening. People will only get more violent as they get more desperate.

If you want to solve the problem, you have to restore prosperity and opportunity for EVERYONE, not just the wealthy few. Throwing everyone in jail for doing what they see as necessary to survive and secure a future for themselves and their families WILL NOT SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.


Killing little girls at a dance class is doing what’s “necessary to survive”? Are you high?


You're bent on misunderstanding what I'm saying, yet you called me a troll.

People are angry. They are despairing. People in despair do awful, sometimes violent things that don't make any sense. Americans should understand that better than anyone since we serve as cannon fodder for desperate, despairing, rage filled young men on a daily basis.

Expect the rage and despair and violence to continue, so long as we as a society allow people to live in circumstances that understably cause rage and despair and violence.

We have exploited the global south for profit for hundreds of years. We've mettled in their politics, robbed them of their resources, and destroyed the environment. And we wonder why they're angry, we wonder why they're flooding into our borders, and we wonder why they hate us.

Our own citizens are feeling increasing amounts of economic pressure. They resent their lowering standard of living, the perceived lack of opportunity, and the perceived favoritism of and competition from these migrants and refugees created by our governments and owner class.

The people screwing you are not your neighbors. The people screwing you are the ones with all the actual power and influence. That's the violence we need to address. That is my point. People are directing their anger and hate at the wrong people. Nowhere did I say it was acceptable to murder children.

But ask yourself why we look the other way when our militaries murder children on a regular basis, when corporation poison their drinking water, and enslave them. But we lose our shit when individuals commit violence on a much smaller scale.

Why come to western countries if we've exploited them so badly?

Their own countries allow them to live in terrible conditions and put religious law above everything else. They don't care about the quality of life one bit. They certainly don't care about women. They bring their regressive attitudes and many hate their host countries. This is not new.
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Anonymous wrote:I love the way natural born citizens who have firmly embraced western values are called white supremacists when simply pointing out that *some* (ahem, let’s be real…it’s a growing number and rather scary when they congregate in the streets to protest Israel in support of Hamas) Muslim extremist newcomers aren’t assimilating and instead seem hell bent on things like: death to western values, relegating women to second class citizens, no tolerance for the lgbtq community…or anyone who isn’t *just like them* (meaning looks like them and embraces the same brand of religious extremism).

Put another way:

The citizens are being criticized for not tolerating the newcomers who clearly don’t tolerate the local community and societal norms.

^^^
That’s a powder keg ready to explode.


Well put.👍

If they come to the UK for a better life that they had in their home country, better assimilate and be part of the UK culture. Don’t bring your baggage with you for your crappy country that you had to flee from and recreate the same problems in the UK…..

Agree with this.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just curious as to why it is always up to European countries and white countries to have never ending acceptance of mass migration. Any time European countries want to preserve their heritage and identity of is 'racist'. Yet you don't see the same liberal outrage directed at countries like Japan, South Korea, China, etc. who are all wealthy nations that could share their development but they don't because they firmly want to stay Asian only.

People will just have to to accept cultures were never meant to mix. People of different races weren't meant to mix. People of different nations weren't meant to mix. It's fine to interact, but there is just too much tension based on any number of identity issues. What's Ireland going to do when the the entire Irish population is overwhelmed by foreigners who have no ethnic background from Ireland, know zero Celtic, and have no traditions associated with something as basic as knowing Irish dance, folk music or folklore? What happens is Irish culture and heritage dies.

Globalists and liberals who think everyone can mix and sing kumbaya together for the rest of history are living in a Dreamland. Multiculturalism is a sham that is code word for cultural suicide. I just don't understand why any country would or should sign up for it and why people think it is good. Humans are just tribal creatures by nature and need to stick to their own. There's nothing wrong with it.


Asian countries didn’t invade these countries or interfere to spread democracy. That was the delusional West.

You break it, you buy it


Japan didn’t actually invade the USA and didn’t actually ally with Hitler who was trying to conquer Europe? Hm.



Grasping at straws I see. It seems people do not know the definition of recent history.

Japan isn’t part of these globalist organizations created after WW2 like NATO or the EU. Russia isn’t either and it’s in Europe. It was the US and Europe that decided open borders and spreading global democracy and fighting socialism because its close to Russia/communism was a super important goal. This in turn led to migration and wars in the Middle East, Africa, and Latin America all directly related to our Cold War policy. We supported right wing incel era/fringe movements from Latin America to the Middle East to Africa to everywhere else with millions of dollars and Pentagon weapons.

We are starting a new Cold War again. We never learn. Venezuela migrant crisis will continue to worsen and affect our border because we sanction and won’t allow a socialist President to win there. How is this our business?


DP. Blah blah Japan blah blah NATO blah blah Cold War.

The problems causing migration are economic. Full stop. Lack of jobs, lack of education, lack of healthcare.

Yes through the 1980s we supported some right-wing dictators and that’s on us. But if you’re the poster who keeps saying “recently” then you’ll know that almost all of that right-wing dictators are gone. Look down south to Nicaragua, Chile, Honduras, Mexico. The Cold War isn’t affecting them today.

NATO isn’t pushing or pulling migrants today. The problem TODAY is their economies.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just curious as to why it is always up to European countries and white countries to have never ending acceptance of mass migration. Any time European countries want to preserve their heritage and identity of is 'racist'. Yet you don't see the same liberal outrage directed at countries like Japan, South Korea, China, etc. who are all wealthy nations that could share their development but they don't because they firmly want to stay Asian only.

People will just have to to accept cultures were never meant to mix. People of different races weren't meant to mix. People of different nations weren't meant to mix. It's fine to interact, but there is just too much tension based on any number of identity issues. What's Ireland going to do when the the entire Irish population is overwhelmed by foreigners who have no ethnic background from Ireland, know zero Celtic, and have no traditions associated with something as basic as knowing Irish dance, folk music or folklore? What happens is Irish culture and heritage dies.

Globalists and liberals who think everyone can mix and sing kumbaya together for the rest of history are living in a Dreamland. Multiculturalism is a sham that is code word for cultural suicide. I just don't understand why any country would or should sign up for it and why people think it is good. Humans are just tribal creatures by nature and need to stick to their own. There's nothing wrong with it.


Asian countries didn’t invade these countries or interfere to spread democracy. That was the delusional West.

You break it, you buy it


Japan didn’t actually invade the USA and didn’t actually ally with Hitler who was trying to conquer Europe? Hm.



Grasping at straws I see. It seems people do not know the definition of recent history.

Japan isn’t part of these globalist organizations created after WW2 like NATO or the EU. Russia isn’t either and it’s in Europe. It was the US and Europe that decided open borders and spreading global democracy and fighting socialism because its close to Russia/communism was a super important goal. This in turn led to migration and wars in the Middle East, Africa, and Latin America all directly related to our Cold War policy. We supported right wing incel era/fringe movements from Latin America to the Middle East to Africa to everywhere else with millions of dollars and Pentagon weapons.

We are starting a new Cold War again. We never learn. Venezuela migrant crisis will continue to worsen and affect our border because we sanction and won’t allow a socialist President to win there. How is this our business?


DP. Blah blah Japan blah blah NATO blah blah Cold War.

The problems causing migration are economic. Full stop. Lack of jobs, lack of education, lack of healthcare.

Yes through the 1980s we supported some right-wing dictators and that’s on us. But if you’re the poster who keeps saying “recently” then you’ll know that almost all of that right-wing dictators are gone. Look down south to Nicaragua, Chile, Honduras, Mexico. The Cold War isn’t affecting them today.

NATO isn’t pushing or pulling migrants today. The problem TODAY is their economies.


I can’t tell if you’re really this dim or what. Their economies are affected by those decisions. Hell, our economy is still affected from Ronald Reagan and Reaganomics.

You asked why they leave to Europe: because Europe has the socialism they wanted in their own countries but aren’t allowed to have because the US foreign policy establishment wouldn’t allow any non white country to be socialist.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing the murder rampage was seized on by Russia who stirred things up with misinformation. Much like here, it’s easy to fool the simple-minded people.


So the young girls weren’t killed by a non-native to the country?


They were killed by a Brit born non native.

The thing is he should be given the death penalty. Not sure why Uk doesn’t have that. How can a killer of kids not get killed? Why use taxpayer dollars to make knife wielding lunatics live a seemingly happy and balanced life in jail? European jails are a joke


Because when you kill a murderer, you become a murderer.

We can come up with solutions that do not rely on violence.


I'm sorry - but for such a heinous crime the death penalty should be on the table. My mostly liberal Gen Z DD agrees.


+1. Agree. Psycho mass murders should get death penalty. The end.


What about all the other institutions that commit and knowingly cause mass deaths? Our government and military, for one. Corporations that knowingly poison us and the environment. Billionaires that knowingly hoard resources while many stave. You guys only see violence on an individual level. Consider what is *driving* this rage in everyone! ECONOMIC STRESS AND INEQUALITY.

We will never solve the problem if we can't be honest about the cause. The problem is societal. The gulf between have and have not is growing at a rapid clip. People who have never been have nots are finding themselves facing new economic pressures and they are lashing out.

The violence will only increase until we admit why it's happening and do something about it. Throwing individual people in jail for "violence" while ignoring the societal issues causing the "violence" and the violence perpetrated by institutions and capitalism itself will not restore peace.

Expect more of these episodes, not less, as wealth inequality grows and the climate and environment goes to shit. If humans don't learn to share soon, we are doomed.


Whatever troll. Poor people are just as deserving of safety and as not committing violence as rich people and should be locked up if they do so.


I'm curious to know how you read my post and somehow came away with the message "poor people aren't deserving of safety" when that was literally my point.

The owner class kills people en masse on a daily basis but we don't call it violence. They are actively causing and benefitting from climate change and the destruction of the environment. They are the ones that have orchestrated the economic desperation that is causing these blowups.

Regular people are at each other's throats, trying to figure out why all these bad things are happening. People will only get more violent as they get more desperate.

If you want to solve the problem, you have to restore prosperity and opportunity for EVERYONE, not just the wealthy few. Throwing everyone in jail for doing what they see as necessary to survive and secure a future for themselves and their families WILL NOT SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.


Killing little girls at a dance class is doing what’s “necessary to survive”? Are you high?


You're bent on misunderstanding what I'm saying, yet you called me a troll.

People are angry. They are despairing. People in despair do awful, sometimes violent things that don't make any sense. Americans should understand that better than anyone since we serve as cannon fodder for desperate, despairing, rage filled young men on a daily basis.

Expect the rage and despair and violence to continue, so long as we as a society allow people to live in circumstances that understably cause rage and despair and violence.

We have exploited the global south for profit for hundreds of years. We've mettled in their politics, robbed them of their resources, and destroyed the environment. And we wonder why they're angry, we wonder why they're flooding into our borders, and we wonder why they hate us.

Our own citizens are feeling increasing amounts of economic pressure. They resent their lowering standard of living, the perceived lack of opportunity, and the perceived favoritism of and competition from these migrants and refugees created by our governments and owner class.

The people screwing you are not your neighbors. The people screwing you are the ones with all the actual power and influence. That's the violence we need to address. That is my point. People are directing their anger and hate at the wrong people. Nowhere did I say it was acceptable to murder children.

But ask yourself why we look the other way when our militaries murder children on a regular basis, when corporation poison their drinking water, and enslave them. But we lose our shit when individuals commit violence on a much smaller scale.

Why come to western countries if we've exploited them so badly?

Their own countries allow them to live in terrible conditions and put religious law above everything else. They don't care about the quality of life one bit. They certainly don't care about women. They bring their regressive attitudes and many hate their host countries. This is not new.


I am assuming you mean Muslim here but what do they have to do with this attack? The attacker is a Christian from a church going African family. What does the “regression” of the Middle East culturally (maybe tell the Brit ex pats not to move to Saudi, Qatar, and Dubai so they can make real money tax free) have to do with anything? If anything it seems to me you want to copy the Muslims by becoming hard right conservative and protecting religion (Christianity) over the rights of women and sexual minorities.
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Anonymous wrote:This is only a thread in a local region.

But the issue we're discussing is huge.

Our western children and their children will remember our generation as the gutless wonders who allowed the west to get destroyed.
We allowed shadowy power brokers - folks we don't even know who they are - to tell us that they're going to destroy our Judeo-Christian world, whether we like the idea or not. These shadowy figures consider themselves our overlords.


I am just as “Western” as anyone could be but I am NOT Judeo-Christian. Sorry to inform you that Europe has much more Pagan history than Christian. Just admit that you are the same as the Taliban but you just have a different religion.


I’m sorry, are Christian women hidden under burkas, prevented from getting an education, killed for dating without their father’s permission? You think these two religions are the same thing?
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Anonymous wrote:I love the way natural born citizens who have firmly embraced western values are called white supremacists when simply pointing out that *some* (ahem, let’s be real…it’s a growing number and rather scary when they congregate in the streets to protest Israel in support of Hamas) Muslim extremist newcomers aren’t assimilating and instead seem hell bent on things like: death to western values, relegating women to second class citizens, no tolerance for the lgbtq community…or anyone who isn’t *just like them* (meaning looks like them and embraces the same brand of religious extremism).

Put another way:

The citizens are being criticized for not tolerating the newcomers who clearly don’t tolerate the local community and societal norms.

^^^
That’s a powder keg ready to explode.


Well put.👍

If they come to the UK for a better life that they had in their home country, better assimilate and be part of the UK culture. Don’t bring your baggage with you for your crappy country that you had to flee from and recreate the same problems in the UK…..

Agree with this.



The UK has one of the most rigid class systems. They will never assimilate! It isn’t America.
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