Rich white kids at Ivies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Friendships in college are very transactional. Both sides need to bring something to the table, rich kids have money, and if you're not rich, you either need to be handsome (as a man) or beautiful (as a woman), and have unique talents. Rich kids love to hang out with talented people.

You guys have a fkd up perspective of how relationships work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendships in college are very transactional. Both sides need to bring something to the table, rich kids have money, and if you're not rich, you either need to be handsome (as a man) or beautiful (as a woman), and have unique talents. Rich kids love to hang out with talented people.

You guys have a fkd up perspective of how relationships work.

this is how they work starting in middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents of a golf athlete at an Ivy here. Almost all of the team members are from rich families and UMC. No team members are from MC/LMC. They also hang out with other rich regular students. Poor students are not invited, according to DC.

How sad. Glad my kid got into their ivy on smarts not athletics. Their nerdy friends are a multicultural group who have intellect & stem interest in common, not wealth. Some are greek some are not; some are quite rich some are on full need based aid. They collaborate on coursework in addition to attending each other’s theater or orchestra events and when they go out they work hard to avoid somewhere expensive so they don’t exclude people, or they go to free events on campus

Yeah but they are equally snobby about intelligence.
They look down on stupid kids.
People just go with their strengths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents of a golf athlete at an Ivy here. Almost all of the team members are from rich families and UMC. No team members are from MC/LMC. They also hang out with other rich regular students. Poor students are not invited, according to DC.

Not my kid's experience on equestrian. We are FA fam, and some kids are very rich in equestrian. The (likely because who knows really) richest kid was the nicest and most down to earth. Another middle class kid was the most clique-ish.

Of my kid's general friend group, she is on the poorer end (we ar MC). That group has LMC, MC, UMC, well off, rich and super rich. All nice kids, and a great group of friends.

Ivy? Was your kid recruited? My kid rides a lot and wants to know more about the process at the 3 Iviees w/teams and some competitive club teams.

Mine was a walk on, but others were recruited. It's been fantastic experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealth on this graph at Brown doesn't surprise me. My family friend's son is at Brown. Lots of uber wealthy kids and many kids or nieces/nephews of celebrities. The rich/adjacent celebrity kids not surprisingly hang out together and form cliques based on where they holiday and live or have their second homes.

Yes read earlier in this thread…..rich ppl hang out with each other. It’s easier that way.


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Your first tier is top boarding schools.
Tier down is certain other private/prep schools (along with the kids of CEO /hedge fund/PE/banker parents bc kids want jobs)
Further down is public high school but full pay
Below that is financial aid kids of any amount.
Bottom is FGLI/questbridge etc.

Read about real experiences on Reddit if you doubt it.

One of the most popular icebreakers for new student orientation/dorms is “where do you summer” or where did you vacation post-graduation. Followed by country club geography.

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Eh. My kid is friends with some of the famous people kids, and we are middle class. And we get good aid, so the "barbell" poster can stuff it. "Doughnut hole" would be like 250k+, which is well-off, frankly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealth on this graph at Brown doesn't surprise me. My family friend's son is at Brown. Lots of uber wealthy kids and many kids or nieces/nephews of celebrities. The rich/adjacent celebrity kids not surprisingly hang out together and form cliques based on where they holiday and live or have their second homes.

Yes read earlier in this thread…..rich ppl hang out with each other. It’s easier that way.


——

Your first tier is top boarding schools.
Tier down is certain other private/prep schools (along with the kids of CEO /hedge fund/PE/banker parents bc kids want jobs)
Further down is public high school but full pay
Below that is financial aid kids of any amount.
Bottom is FGLI/questbridge etc.

Read about real experiences on Reddit if you doubt it.

One of the most popular icebreakers for new student orientation/dorms is “where do you summer” or where did you vacation post-graduation. Followed by country club geography.

——

Eh. My kid is friends with some of the famous people kids, and we are middle class. And we get good aid, so the "barbell" poster can stuff it. "Doughnut hole" would be like 250k+, which is well-off, frankly.

No irs def not.
We make 20x that (in sometimes not even the best years).

We’ve def had very diff lived experiences and it’s not comparable at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealth on this graph at Brown doesn't surprise me. My family friend's son is at Brown. Lots of uber wealthy kids and many kids or nieces/nephews of celebrities. The rich/adjacent celebrity kids not surprisingly hang out together and form cliques based on where they holiday and live or have their second homes.

Yes read earlier in this thread…..rich ppl hang out with each other. It’s easier that way.


——

Your first tier is top boarding schools.
Tier down is certain other private/prep schools (along with the kids of CEO /hedge fund/PE/banker parents bc kids want jobs)
Further down is public high school but full pay
Below that is financial aid kids of any amount.
Bottom is FGLI/questbridge etc.

Read about real experiences on Reddit if you doubt it.

One of the most popular icebreakers for new student orientation/dorms is “where do you summer” or where did you vacation post-graduation. Followed by country club geography.

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Neither of my different-ivy kids were asked “where do you summer”. And they are full pay white kids. No one asks things like this unless you have zero self-awareness and reflection skills. They are not athletes and their conversations revolve around what courses are you taking and who do you read in your free time(authors,newspapers etc), what level of math did you complete in high school and what professors do you have for fall

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealth on this graph at Brown doesn't surprise me. My family friend's son is at Brown. Lots of uber wealthy kids and many kids or nieces/nephews of celebrities. The rich/adjacent celebrity kids not surprisingly hang out together and form cliques based on where they holiday and live or have their second homes.

Yes read earlier in this thread…..rich ppl hang out with each other. It’s easier that way.


——

Your first tier is top boarding schools.
Tier down is certain other private/prep schools (along with the kids of CEO /hedge fund/PE/banker parents bc kids want jobs)
Further down is public high school but full pay
Below that is financial aid kids of any amount.
Bottom is FGLI/questbridge etc.

Read about real experiences on Reddit if you doubt it.

One of the most popular icebreakers for new student orientation/dorms is “where do you summer” or where did you vacation post-graduation. Followed by country club geography.

——

Eh. My kid is friends with some of the famous people kids, and we are middle class. And we get good aid, so the "barbell" poster can stuff it. "Doughnut hole" would be like 250k+, which is well-off, frankly.

No irs def not.
We make 20x that (in sometimes not even the best years).

We’ve def had very diff lived experiences and it’s not comparable at all.

250k+ IS well off. You are just filthy rich. No one was comparing your "lived experience."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most top colleges are like this. The richest students, across incomes, hang out with one another. The athletes, usually white outside of mainstream sports, hang out with one another. The Middle Class figure it out. The fgli hang out with the fgli.

Yup. This is why I roll my eyes when posters here think that going to a top school is going to open the world of the top .01%.

The super rich only hang out with each other.

Source: middle class person who went to a top Ivy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealth on this graph at Brown doesn't surprise me. My family friend's son is at Brown. Lots of uber wealthy kids and many kids or nieces/nephews of celebrities. The rich/adjacent celebrity kids not surprisingly hang out together and form cliques based on where they holiday and live or have their second homes.

Yes read earlier in this thread…..rich ppl hang out with each other. It’s easier that way.


——

Your first tier is top boarding schools.
Tier down is certain other private/prep schools (along with the kids of CEO /hedge fund/PE/banker parents bc kids want jobs)
Further down is public high school but full pay
Below that is financial aid kids of any amount.
Bottom is FGLI/questbridge etc.

Read about real experiences on Reddit if you doubt it.

One of the most popular icebreakers for new student orientation/dorms is “where do you summer” or where did you vacation post-graduation. Followed by country club geography.

——

Eh. My kid is friends with some of the famous people kids, and we are middle class. And we get good aid, so the "barbell" poster can stuff it. "Doughnut hole" would be like 250k+, which is well-off, frankly.

No irs def not.
We make 20x that (in sometimes not even the best years).

We’ve def had very diff lived experiences and it’s not comparable at all.

250k+ IS well off. You are just filthy rich. No one was comparing your "lived experience."

sigh. indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendships in college are very transactional. Both sides need to bring something to the table, rich kids have money, and if you're not rich, you either need to be handsome (as a man) or beautiful (as a woman), and have unique talents. Rich kids love to hang out with talented people.

You guys have a fkd up perspective of how relationships work.

no, to be honest it is how they work. sometimes the other person offers support, unwavering friendship, kindness and humor. Sometimes beauty and sometimes money. Sometimes empathy and an ear. But over time generally speaking unless you are related people need a quid pro quo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most top colleges are like this. The richest students, across incomes, hang out with one another. The athletes, usually white outside of mainstream sports, hang out with one another. The Middle Class figure it out. The fgli hang out with the fgli.

Yup. This is why I roll my eyes when posters here think that going to a top school is going to open the world of the top .01%.

The super rich only hang out with each other.

Source: middle class person who went to a top Ivy.

meh somewhat, the schools are not that big and talent and beauty are just as good currencies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most top colleges are like this. The richest students, across incomes, hang out with one another. The athletes, usually white outside of mainstream sports, hang out with one another. The Middle Class figure it out. The fgli hang out with the fgli.

Yup. This is why I roll my eyes when posters here think that going to a top school is going to open the world of the top .01%.

The super rich only hang out with each other.

Source: middle class person who went to a top Ivy.

meh somewhat, the schools are not that big and talent and beauty are just as good currencies.

Top .01% can't do a thing for you ---- why even be open to that world. Those people don't work.

[Anonymous]

Found this post as I was searching for best fit - socially and culturally - at various Ivies. Thought it was super helpful.

If relevant to your kids search you might want to read when you have time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Friendships in college are very transactional. Both sides need to bring something to the table, rich kids have money, and if you're not rich, you either need to be handsome (as a man) or beautiful (as a woman), and have unique talents. Rich kids love to hang out with talented people.

this is so sad and depressing.