Louisiana orders every classroom to display Ten Commandments

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Anonymous wrote:It's dumb, performative crap for the Christian right who constantly need their heads patted and to be told they are important and special. Kids don't care and won't read the poster unless it's massive or the teacher forces reciting.

The most likely outcome is it will end up being allowed by the current SCOTUS (probably overturning some settled case law on some novel understanding of history) and other religions will be allowed to have posters but won't actually be able to.

Louisiana will continue to be a poor, ignorant state with bottom 10% stats in every QoL metric.

What religion are you, pp? Does your religion teach you to call your fellow man poor and ignorant? Does your religion teach you to disparage poor people or uneducated people? Does your religion teach you to help poor and uneducated people?

Are you able to stay on topic? Can you build a coherent argument based in reality and fact? I'm beginning to believe conservative and religious beliefs really are just a symptom of the weak-minded.

Yes.

The red states stay poor and undereducated by design. I don’t see having religious beliefs in opposition to being educated and believing that science is real but these dreadful “Christians” do. I believe in God and consider myself a cultural member of the religion in which I grew up, but I believe in the separation of church and state. This is abominable.

You missed the part where you should not judge other people. You are judging a bunch of people you don’t even know as dreadful. That’s close minded and wrong. You don’t know anyone is dreadful until you get to know them on a personal level.

So far: Louisiana is a poor, ignorant state.
Other Christians (the ones who don’t think like meeeeeee) are dreadful.

What a bunch of sweethearts posting here. Real role models for children.

Don't pretend you have any moral high ground here whatsoever.

Whatever "religion" it is that you and your Louisiana Republicans are certainly teaches them to disparage the poor, to disparage anyone who disagrees with them, to disrespect their religion if they are not Christian, to disrespect them if they are atheist, to disparage them if they come from another land, it teaches them to be greedy, selfish, and short-sighted. It teaches them to NOT follow Christ's teachings about feeding the poor, tending to the sick, the elderly and the infirm, offering refuge and shelter to those who need it.

If you don't understand that or recognize that about today's GOP, then you'd better take some time to step back and do some deep soul searching because you are completely blind.

Christianity doesn’t teach people to disparage the poor or uneducated. It doesn’t teach Christians to be greedy or to hate people who are different than they are. Christianity doesn’t teach people to be short sighted or disrespectful. That’s ridiculous. You are making up so many things that are really rude and terrible about Christianity, it’s hard to take you seriously.

Christianity doesn’t teach those things, the right wingers have perverted Christianity to teach those things. Prosperity gospel says if you’re poor, that’s God’s punishment for you sucking. Bootstraps! “*uck your feelings!”

Those who are Republican and “Christian” are the exact type of worshipper Jesus talked against. You guys are the opposite in every way of what Jesus wanted us to do. You may claim his mantle, but you are wrong in all regards. You see the least among us and you knock them down, kick them in the stomach and rub dirt in their eyes.

And all that is apart from the fact that we are supposed to have religious freedom in this country because our founders knew what established religion does. You… do not. You’re happy for fascism to show up and establish a state religion, knock women back to the dark ages and thump your chest. The commandments are a religious artifact and have no business in a school outside of class that discusses them in a literature or cultural way.

There are millions of Christians in the United States who do not vote for republicans and are not conservative. You are ranting and unhinged. This thread is about a law that La passed, not about attacking Christians. I never fail to hear hateful, intolerant comments from people who call Christians hateful and intolerant.

You have a problem with Christianity, and I don’t care if you do. You don’t have to like Christianity or Christians. But you have no right to tell people how they live their life or practice their religion. You are obsessed with judging people you have never met a single time in your life and judging them evil.

The bolded is why the 10 commandments should not be posted in public buildings.

Get it?

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation.

Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation.

Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.

Where do you get that anyone is saying the Ten Commandments are shameful?

No one is saying that.

Actually someone said that and claimed the 10 commandments were written by a bunch of drunk guys. The moderator deleted the post but not the quote.

Someone feels very strongly that their children not be shamed into not murdering or lying or stealing.

You know darn well they are not talking about the secular laws (that also happen to be commandments) against murder, fraud, and theft. They are talking about worshipping a particular god, not having idols (some religions do and those are allowed to be practiced in the United States of America), and keeping holy a particular faith's sabbath, even though they may be of a faith with a different or no sabbath.

In any case, this is clearly unconstitutional and won't last.

That’s your opinion. I hope it lasts, because I work in a school and the students are being failed by their parents grievously. It’s truly sad.

How will slapping something on the wall in your classroom help your students, or their parents?

Are you an educator? Please, if you are not, get your teaching degree and certification and help teach kids. There’s a massive teacher shortage. It would be great for people like you to enter the classroom and help educate kids.

DP... That TOTALLY didn't answer the question. Again, how exactly will slapping a poster of the Ten Commandments help students?

How does it hurt?

By making kids who believe in different religions or no religion feel like outsiders.

I would love to see the reactions from the MAGAs if a Hindu teacher put up the Yamas and Niyamas in her classroom. Or better, if a Muslim teacher posted some quotes from the Quran.

Because the 10 Commandments are only for Christians, non-Christian people will feel like outsiders because they believe murder, theft, lying, etc, should not be forbidden?

Are you really this dumb. Many non-Christians don't believe that they should worship only one god. Or that idols are bad. Or that they should observe the sabbath.

I don’t agree with the atheists and anti-theists posting here that are calling people names, insulting LA, insulting poor people, insulting people who were not privileged enough to obtain a quality education, insulting people who have a different belief system than they do, is a good thing. Nor does doing so indicate any respect for other people. Nor does doing so indicate that the poster is educated themselves. It reflects very poorly on the poster.

Insulting people and calling people names, disrespecting their beliefs, is unAmerican and disrespectful. I would be ashamed if I were an atheist or agnostic, because the anti-theists posting here display the negative attributes they say religious people do. They aren’t making a good case for the intelligence and good morals/ethics purportedly possessed by non-religious people. It’s actually very off putting. Hating people you have never met is a terrible way to describe your world view. Judging an entire religion is a terrible way to show how good and kind you are. It does quite the opposite.

People are calling out the hypocritical nature of the so-called Christians. If you don't like hearing the truth, then maybe look in the mirror about things you purport to support.

People are calling an entire state and religion rude names. That’s on them. If they feel like that’s how they should conduct themselves, I don’t agree with their behavior.

Bronze age myths and other religions remain a giant pox on the planet and people need to enter the 21st century or we are doomed as a nation to theocracy.

But since you don't agree that's how I should conduct myself, I'll be quiet from now on, of course. Maybe ad that to number 11 on the poster.

Another anti- theist who displays no tolerance for the beliefs of others. An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

You are welcome to have your own opinion about religion, but you should treat your fellow man with respect.

Calling all religions a “pox” on the planet is very rude to everyone who has religious faith. I don’t know how you feel comfortable saying things like that. It’s too arrogant to believe you have the ability to judge every person in the world as bad because they are religious. You don’t like religious people, and think all religions and religious people are bad? Are you rsure of your opinion that every religious person is a pox?

You should treat your fellow man with respect by not imposing your religious or moral beliefs on anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Would not want my public schools pushing religion.

I don't want them pushing wokeism, protesting during school hours for class credit, pushing climate justice studies over STEM, and erasing the basics they need to succeed in the workforce in favor of the left's agenda.

So here we are.

Replace "wokeism" with "anti-racism" and you will begin to see the problem.
Climate change is science. Ironic you would disparage it in the very same sentence you extol STEM. Do you know what the S in STEM stands for?

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There are more than 1million Catholics in Louisiana. The state chose a Protestant version of the Ten Commandments to display in classrooms. Then the state edited the Protestant version.

This should piss off everyone.

Oh wait SEPARATION OF Church and State dam Catholics, Islamics, Baptists, Ultra conservative Jews MAGA idiots, what will you do when there is a National ban on all other religions.

Because if you think yours is going to be the National Religion and you will be able to have Catholic Schools, Islamic schools or Jewish Day Schools LOL idiots all of you.

When they came for me they came for you too.

National Religion how about the Church of Satan instead....

Really people it is time for you to find your dam brains.

WE have always had religious freedom in this country and this right here says NATIONAL BAN. Project 2025 will be a nightmare for all religions except Evangelical.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation.

Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation.

Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.

Where do you get that anyone is saying the Ten Commandments are shameful?

No one is saying that.

Actually someone said that and claimed the 10 commandments were written by a bunch of drunk guys. The moderator deleted the post but not the quote.

Someone feels very strongly that their children not be shamed into not murdering or lying or stealing.

You know darn well they are not talking about the secular laws (that also happen to be commandments) against murder, fraud, and theft. They are talking about worshipping a particular god, not having idols (some religions do and those are allowed to be practiced in the United States of America), and keeping holy a particular faith's sabbath, even though they may be of a faith with a different or no sabbath.

In any case, this is clearly unconstitutional and won't last.

That’s your opinion. I hope it lasts, because I work in a school and the students are being failed by their parents grievously. It’s truly sad.

How will slapping something on the wall in your classroom help your students, or their parents?

Are you an educator? Please, if you are not, get your teaching degree and certification and help teach kids. There’s a massive teacher shortage. It would be great for people like you to enter the classroom and help educate kids.

DP... That TOTALLY didn't answer the question. Again, how exactly will slapping a poster of the Ten Commandments help students?

How does it hurt?

By making kids who believe in different religions or no religion feel like outsiders.

I would love to see the reactions from the MAGAs if a Hindu teacher put up the Yamas and Niyamas in her classroom. Or better, if a Muslim teacher posted some quotes from the Quran.

Because the 10 Commandments are only for Christians, non-Christian people will feel like outsiders because they believe murder, theft, lying, etc, should not be forbidden?

Are you really this dumb. Many non-Christians don't believe that they should worship only one god. Or that idols are bad. Or that they should observe the sabbath.

I don’t agree with the atheists and anti-theists posting here that are calling people names, insulting LA, insulting poor people, insulting people who were not privileged enough to obtain a quality education, insulting people who have a different belief system than they do, is a good thing. Nor does doing so indicate any respect for other people. Nor does doing so indicate that the poster is educated themselves. It reflects very poorly on the poster.

Insulting people and calling people names, disrespecting their beliefs, is unAmerican and disrespectful. I would be ashamed if I were an atheist or agnostic, because the anti-theists posting here display the negative attributes they say religious people do. They aren’t making a good case for the intelligence and good morals/ethics purportedly possessed by non-religious people. It’s actually very off putting. Hating people you have never met is a terrible way to describe your world view. Judging an entire religion is a terrible way to show how good and kind you are. It does quite the opposite.

People are calling out the hypocritical nature of the so-called Christians. If you don't like hearing the truth, then maybe look in the mirror about things you purport to support.

People are calling an entire state and religion rude names. That’s on them. If they feel like that’s how they should conduct themselves, I don’t agree with their behavior.

Bronze age myths and other religions remain a giant pox on the planet and people need to enter the 21st century or we are doomed as a nation to theocracy.

But since you don't agree that's how I should conduct myself, I'll be quiet from now on, of course. Maybe ad that to number 11 on the poster.

Another anti- theist who displays no tolerance for the beliefs of others. An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

You are welcome to have your own opinion about religion, but you should treat your fellow man with respect.

Calling all religions a “pox” on the planet is very rude to everyone who has religious faith. I don’t know how you feel comfortable saying things like that. It’s too arrogant to believe you have the ability to judge every person in the world as bad because they are religious. You don’t like religious people, and think all religions and religious people are bad? Are you rsure of your opinion that every religious person is a pox?

Lets address your points individually:

Another anti- theist who displays no tolerance for the beliefs of others. An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

Yes, I have no respect for people who believe in ancient mythology while empowering those who seek to take constitutional rights away from others. No respect. None. Nada. If that is you, then too bad, you are entitled to your belief and I am entitled to believe you are part of a gigantic problem, explicitly or tacitly.

You are welcome to have your own opinion about religion, but you should treat your fellow man with respect.

I respect the person but not the belief. I bet that sounds familiar to you!

Calling all religions a “pox” on the planet is very rude to everyone who has religious faith.

Too bad! Is it bad to call racism a pox because many people hold those beliefs?

An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

This point you are correct on. I do not discriminate against Christians specifically. I think they are all a problem, and that is pretty clear to me. That goes for Islam, Judaism, Scientology, and any others.

^you are as intolerant and bigoted as the evangelical Christians you call intolerant and bigoted.

There is no place in America for bigots. You are very proud to be bigoted against billions of people. I respect your right to not like religion, but I don’t like or respect the complete disregard and disrespect you feel and display towards your fellow man.

So is OK for you to be bigoted against racists, who we both agree are awful, but not OK for me to be bigoted against an ideology I feel is just as harmful to the world?

Your logic is not sound. That's a "respectful" response.

The world will be a much better place when people don't have belief in ancient myths. If you find that opinion "disrespectful", well then that's your baggage, not mine.

Are you telling me you don't think the world will be a better place when women don't have to wear burkas and have the same rights as men? Please answer this question to continue the discussion.

I don’t think that you have to like religion. You can hate religion, every religion But your hatred for religion is translating into hatred and disrespect for your fellow man.

If you feel that way towards every religious person on the planet, I saw with sincerity, I think that reflects upon you and not the people of the world.

Other people’s beliefs should not drive you to hatred. We can’t and won’t ever have the same beliefs. I can’t imagine hating everyone I disagreed with. Having so much hatred inside you will make you very unhappy.

I am not the poster you are responding to but....the Evangelical Christians are imposing their morals and beliefs on to me and how I want to manage my body. Why would that not drive some hatred? Stop trying to manage me and I will stop hating on you.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation.

Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation.

Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.

Where do you get that anyone is saying the Ten Commandments are shameful?

No one is saying that.

Actually someone said that and claimed the 10 commandments were written by a bunch of drunk guys. The moderator deleted the post but not the quote.

Someone feels very strongly that their children not be shamed into not murdering or lying or stealing.

You know darn well they are not talking about the secular laws (that also happen to be commandments) against murder, fraud, and theft. They are talking about worshipping a particular god, not having idols (some religions do and those are allowed to be practiced in the United States of America), and keeping holy a particular faith's sabbath, even though they may be of a faith with a different or no sabbath.

In any case, this is clearly unconstitutional and won't last.

That’s your opinion. I hope it lasts, because I work in a school and the students are being failed by their parents grievously. It’s truly sad.

How will slapping something on the wall in your classroom help your students, or their parents?

Are you an educator? Please, if you are not, get your teaching degree and certification and help teach kids. There’s a massive teacher shortage. It would be great for people like you to enter the classroom and help educate kids.

DP... That TOTALLY didn't answer the question. Again, how exactly will slapping a poster of the Ten Commandments help students?

How does it hurt?

By making kids who believe in different religions or no religion feel like outsiders.

I would love to see the reactions from the MAGAs if a Hindu teacher put up the Yamas and Niyamas in her classroom. Or better, if a Muslim teacher posted some quotes from the Quran.

Because the 10 Commandments are only for Christians, non-Christian people will feel like outsiders because they believe murder, theft, lying, etc, should not be forbidden?

Are you really this dumb. Many non-Christians don't believe that they should worship only one god. Or that idols are bad. Or that they should observe the sabbath.

I don’t agree with the atheists and anti-theists posting here that are calling people names, insulting LA, insulting poor people, insulting people who were not privileged enough to obtain a quality education, insulting people who have a different belief system than they do, is a good thing. Nor does doing so indicate any respect for other people. Nor does doing so indicate that the poster is educated themselves. It reflects very poorly on the poster.

Insulting people and calling people names, disrespecting their beliefs, is unAmerican and disrespectful. I would be ashamed if I were an atheist or agnostic, because the anti-theists posting here display the negative attributes they say religious people do. They aren’t making a good case for the intelligence and good morals/ethics purportedly possessed by non-religious people. It’s actually very off putting. Hating people you have never met is a terrible way to describe your world view. Judging an entire religion is a terrible way to show how good and kind you are. It does quite the opposite.

People are calling out the hypocritical nature of the so-called Christians. If you don't like hearing the truth, then maybe look in the mirror about things you purport to support.

People are calling an entire state and religion rude names. That’s on them. If they feel like that’s how they should conduct themselves, I don’t agree with their behavior.

Bronze age myths and other religions remain a giant pox on the planet and people need to enter the 21st century or we are doomed as a nation to theocracy.

But since you don't agree that's how I should conduct myself, I'll be quiet from now on, of course. Maybe ad that to number 11 on the poster.

Another anti- theist who displays no tolerance for the beliefs of others. An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

You are welcome to have your own opinion about religion, but you should treat your fellow man with respect.

Calling all religions a “pox” on the planet is very rude to everyone who has religious faith. I don’t know how you feel comfortable saying things like that. It’s too arrogant to believe you have the ability to judge every person in the world as bad because they are religious. You don’t like religious people, and think all religions and religious people are bad? Are you rsure of your opinion that every religious person is a pox?

Lets address your points individually:

Another anti- theist who displays no tolerance for the beliefs of others. An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

Yes, I have no respect for people who believe in ancient mythology while empowering those who seek to take constitutional rights away from others. No respect. None. Nada. If that is you, then too bad, you are entitled to your belief and I am entitled to believe you are part of a gigantic problem, explicitly or tacitly.

You are welcome to have your own opinion about religion, but you should treat your fellow man with respect.

I respect the person but not the belief. I bet that sounds familiar to you!

Calling all religions a “pox” on the planet is very rude to everyone who has religious faith.

Too bad! Is it bad to call racism a pox because many people hold those beliefs?

An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

This point you are correct on. I do not discriminate against Christians specifically. I think they are all a problem, and that is pretty clear to me. That goes for Islam, Judaism, Scientology, and any others.

^you are as intolerant and bigoted as the evangelical Christians you call intolerant and bigoted.

There is no place in America for bigots. You are very proud to be bigoted against billions of people. I respect your right to not like religion, but I don’t like or respect the complete disregard and disrespect you feel and display towards your fellow man.

So is OK for you to be bigoted against racists, who we both agree are awful, but not OK for me to be bigoted against an ideology I feel is just as harmful to the world?

Your logic is not sound. That's a "respectful" response.

The world will be a much better place when people don't have belief in ancient myths. If you find that opinion "disrespectful", well then that's your baggage, not mine.

Are you telling me you don't think the world will be a better place when women don't have to wear burkas and have the same rights as men? Please answer this question to continue the discussion.

I don’t think that you have to like religion. You can hate religion, every religion But your hatred for religion is translating into hatred and disrespect for your fellow man.

If you feel that way towards every religious person on the planet, I saw with sincerity, I think that reflects upon you and not the people of the world.

Other people’s beliefs should not drive you to hatred. We can’t and won’t ever have the same beliefs. I can’t imagine hating everyone I disagreed with. Having so much hatred inside you will make you very unhappy.

Sorry, maybe I was not clear:

Are you telling me you don't think the world will be a better place when women don't have to wear burkas and have the same rights as men? Please answer this question to continue the discussion.

Unless you are purposefully avoiding it...

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

yes. There is. I don't want my kids to be shamed into behavior based on a stupid book written a couple thousand years ago by a bunch of drunk guys.

Which specific commandments do you think people shouldn’t be “shamed” for? The Ten Commandments are a set of religious and ethical directives that God gave to Moses, according to the Bible. Scholars disagree about when the Ten Commandments were written and by whom, so apparently you know more than they do because you know “a bunch of drunk guys” wrote them. Do you have a cite for that? Please share.

I have no problem with people “taking god’s name in vain.” None whatsoever.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation.

Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation.

Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.

How about we cut the ones that refer to god, going to church/temple.

Love the one about greed. Make every CEO, billionaire, and people in finance, and politicians out that one up in their offices and I’ll agree to putting the ones minus mention of a god up in school. Deal?

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation.

Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation.

Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.

Where do you get that anyone is saying the Ten Commandments are shameful?

No one is saying that.

Actually someone said that and claimed the 10 commandments were written by a bunch of drunk guys. The moderator deleted the post but not the quote.

Someone feels very strongly that their children not be shamed into not murdering or lying or stealing.

DP. My nieces and nephew were shamed by kids in their school in the south because they don’t go to church.

That doesn’t mean the commandment is shameful. It means people use the commandments to shame others. Why should elementary school kids be shamed because they don’t go to church? This is not a theocracy, god dang it.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation.

Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation.

Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.

Where do you get that anyone is saying the Ten Commandments are shameful?

No one is saying that.

Actually someone said that and claimed the 10 commandments were written by a bunch of drunk guys. The moderator deleted the post but not the quote.

Someone feels very strongly that their children not be shamed into not murdering or lying or stealing.

You know darn well they are not talking about the secular laws (that also happen to be commandments) against murder, fraud, and theft. They are talking about worshipping a particular god, not having idols (some religions do and those are allowed to be practiced in the United States of America), and keeping holy a particular faith's sabbath, even though they may be of a faith with a different or no sabbath.

In any case, this is clearly unconstitutional and won't last.

That’s your opinion. I hope it lasts, because I work in a school and the students are being failed by their parents grievously. It’s truly sad.

How will slapping something on the wall in your classroom help your students, or their parents?

Are you an educator? Please, if you are not, get your teaching degree and certification and help teach kids. There’s a massive teacher shortage. It would be great for people like you to enter the classroom and help educate kids.

DP... That TOTALLY didn't answer the question. Again, how exactly will slapping a poster of the Ten Commandments help students?

How does it hurt?

It reminds kids who don’t participate in Judeo-Christian sects that they are outsiders who don’t belong to the dominant culture. Country being a middle schooler who is told on a daily basis you don’t belong.

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Anonymous wrote:It's dumb, performative crap for the Christian right who constantly need their heads patted and to be told they are important and special. Kids don't care and won't read the poster unless it's massive or the teacher forces reciting.

The most likely outcome is it will end up being allowed by the current SCOTUS (probably overturning some settled case law on some novel understanding of history) and other religions will be allowed to have posters but won't actually be able to.

Louisiana will continue to be a poor, ignorant state with bottom 10% stats in every QoL metric.

What religion are you, pp? Does your religion teach you to call your fellow man poor and ignorant? Does your religion teach you to disparage poor people or uneducated people? Does your religion teach you to help poor and uneducated people?

Are you able to stay on topic? Can you build a coherent argument based in reality and fact? I'm beginning to believe conservative and religious beliefs really are just a symptom of the weak-minded.

Yes.

The red states stay poor and undereducated by design. I don’t see having religious beliefs in opposition to being educated and believing that science is real but these dreadful “Christians” do. I believe in God and consider myself a cultural member of the religion in which I grew up, but I believe in the separation of church and state. This is abominable.

You missed the part where you should not judge other people. You are judging a bunch of people you don’t even know as dreadful. That’s close minded and wrong. You don’t know anyone is dreadful until you get to know them on a personal level.

So far: Louisiana is a poor, ignorant state.
Other Christians (the ones who don’t think like meeeeeee) are dreadful.

What a bunch of sweethearts posting here. Real role models for children.

Don't pretend you have any moral high ground here whatsoever.

Whatever "religion" it is that you and your Louisiana Republicans are certainly teaches them to disparage the poor, to disparage anyone who disagrees with them, to disrespect their religion if they are not Christian, to disrespect them if they are atheist, to disparage them if they come from another land, it teaches them to be greedy, selfish, and short-sighted. It teaches them to NOT follow Christ's teachings about feeding the poor, tending to the sick, the elderly and the infirm, offering refuge and shelter to those who need it.

If you don't understand that or recognize that about today's GOP, then you'd better take some time to step back and do some deep soul searching because you are completely blind.

Christianity doesn’t teach people to disparage the poor or uneducated. It doesn’t teach Christians to be greedy or to hate people who are different than they are. Christianity doesn’t teach people to be short sighted or disrespectful. That’s ridiculous. You are making up so many things that are really rude and terrible about Christianity, it’s hard to take you seriously.

You'd better go and notify every self-professed conservative Christian that Christianity doesn't teach those things, because they are DEFINITELY guilty of those things. They overwhelmingly vote for people who slash funding and support for the sick and the poor and the elderly. They overwhelmingly vote for people who want to cast out refugees. Many of them follow the "prosperity gospel" of greed as can be seen with the rise of megachurches like Kenneth Copeland, Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham, John Hagee, Rick Warren and Joel Osteen. You can call it "rude" all you like but I am STATING ABSOLUTE FACTS. You're in delusional denial if you don't think any of this is real or happening - and you're kidding yourself if you don't that a large number of Americans like myself don't know this to be the case.

You are not stating absolute facts. You are stating your opinion, which you are entitled to both believe and state. That does not make your opinion fact. If you think your opinion about religion is fact, then that’s a you problem.

Had to return to respond to your BS about whether or not it's fact vs opinion, or it being a "me" problem.

Sorry, but I'm not *imagining* things like the fact that millions of conservative Christians voted for Republicans who keep threatening to slash supports for the poor and the elderly, whose policies have left us with unaffordable for-profit healthcare and so on. That's not "opinon" - it's objective fact that can be seen in election data, campaign finance data, lobbying data, voting records, and policy statements made by the candidates they voted for, their proposed bills, the bills they voted on, and so on. Those conservative Christians made their true beliefs known through the people they support and the people they voted for.

For you to try and deny objective verifiable reality that anyone can independently research and check for themselves via the numerous data points I just gave about election data, voting records and so on is absolutely ludicrous. I suggest you go back and understand the difference between an independently verifiable fact such as I've given versus opinion, which is typically far more subjective and arbitrary, and far less independently verifiable or fact based.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation.

Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation.

Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.

Where do you get that anyone is saying the Ten Commandments are shameful?

No one is saying that.

Actually someone said that and claimed the 10 commandments were written by a bunch of drunk guys. The moderator deleted the post but not the quote.

Someone feels very strongly that their children not be shamed into not murdering or lying or stealing.

You know darn well they are not talking about the secular laws (that also happen to be commandments) against murder, fraud, and theft. They are talking about worshipping a particular god, not having idols (some religions do and those are allowed to be practiced in the United States of America), and keeping holy a particular faith's sabbath, even though they may be of a faith with a different or no sabbath.

In any case, this is clearly unconstitutional and won't last.

That’s your opinion. I hope it lasts, because I work in a school and the students are being failed by their parents grievously. It’s truly sad.

How will slapping something on the wall in your classroom help your students, or their parents?

Are you an educator? Please, if you are not, get your teaching degree and certification and help teach kids. There’s a massive teacher shortage. It would be great for people like you to enter the classroom and help educate kids.

DP... That TOTALLY didn't answer the question. Again, how exactly will slapping a poster of the Ten Commandments help students?

How does it hurt?

By making kids who believe in different religions or no religion feel like outsiders.

I would love to see the reactions from the MAGAs if a Hindu teacher put up the Yamas and Niyamas in her classroom. Or better, if a Muslim teacher posted some quotes from the Quran.

Because the 10 Commandments are only for Christians, non-Christian people will feel like outsiders because they believe murder, theft, lying, etc, should not be forbidden?

We’ve got laws for those. Post them on the wall.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation.

Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation.

Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.

Where do you get that anyone is saying the Ten Commandments are shameful?

No one is saying that.

Actually someone said that and claimed the 10 commandments were written by a bunch of drunk guys. The moderator deleted the post but not the quote.

Someone feels very strongly that their children not be shamed into not murdering or lying or stealing.

You know darn well they are not talking about the secular laws (that also happen to be commandments) against murder, fraud, and theft. They are talking about worshipping a particular god, not having idols (some religions do and those are allowed to be practiced in the United States of America), and keeping holy a particular faith's sabbath, even though they may be of a faith with a different or no sabbath.

In any case, this is clearly unconstitutional and won't last.

That’s your opinion. I hope it lasts, because I work in a school and the students are being failed by their parents grievously. It’s truly sad.

How will slapping something on the wall in your classroom help your students, or their parents?

Are you an educator? Please, if you are not, get your teaching degree and certification and help teach kids. There’s a massive teacher shortage. It would be great for people like you to enter the classroom and help educate kids.

DP... That TOTALLY didn't answer the question. Again, how exactly will slapping a poster of the Ten Commandments help students?

How does it hurt?

By making kids who believe in different religions or no religion feel like outsiders.

I would love to see the reactions from the MAGAs if a Hindu teacher put up the Yamas and Niyamas in her classroom. Or better, if a Muslim teacher posted some quotes from the Quran.

Because the 10 Commandments are only for Christians, non-Christian people will feel like outsiders because they believe murder, theft, lying, etc, should not be forbidden?

Are you really this dumb. Many non-Christians don't believe that they should worship only one god. Or that idols are bad. Or that they should observe the sabbath.

I don’t agree with the atheists and anti-theists posting here that are calling people names, insulting LA, insulting poor people, insulting people who were not privileged enough to obtain a quality education, insulting people who have a different belief system than they do, is a good thing. Nor does doing so indicate any respect for other people. Nor does doing so indicate that the poster is educated themselves. It reflects very poorly on the poster.

Insulting people and calling people names, disrespecting their beliefs, is unAmerican and disrespectful. I would be ashamed if I were an atheist or agnostic, because the anti-theists posting here display the negative attributes they say religious people do. They aren’t making a good case for the intelligence and good morals/ethics purportedly possessed by non-religious people. It’s actually very off putting. Hating people you have never met is a terrible way to describe your world view. Judging an entire religion is a terrible way to show how good and kind you are. It does quite the opposite.

People are calling out the hypocritical nature of the so-called Christians. If you don't like hearing the truth, then maybe look in the mirror about things you purport to support.

People are calling an entire state and religion rude names. That’s on them. If they feel like that’s how they should conduct themselves, I don’t agree with their behavior.

Bronze age myths and other religions remain a giant pox on the planet and people need to enter the 21st century or we are doomed as a nation to theocracy.

But since you don't agree that's how I should conduct myself, I'll be quiet from now on, of course. Maybe ad that to number 11 on the poster.

Another anti- theist who displays no tolerance for the beliefs of others. An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

You are welcome to have your own opinion about religion, but you should treat your fellow man with respect.

Calling all religions a “pox” on the planet is very rude to everyone who has religious faith. I don’t know how you feel comfortable saying things like that. It’s too arrogant to believe you have the ability to judge every person in the world as bad because they are religious. You don’t like religious people, and think all religions and religious people are bad? Are you rsure of your opinion that every religious person is a pox?

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Another anti- theist who displays no tolerance for the beliefs of others. An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

Yes, I have no respect for people who believe in ancient mythology while empowering those who seek to take constitutional rights away from others. No respect. None. Nada. If that is you, then too bad, you are entitled to your belief and I am entitled to believe you are part of a gigantic problem, explicitly or tacitly.

You are welcome to have your own opinion about religion, but you should treat your fellow man with respect.

I respect the person but not the belief. I bet that sounds familiar to you!

Calling all religions a “pox” on the planet is very rude to everyone who has religious faith.

Too bad! Is it bad to call racism a pox because many people hold those beliefs?

An anti- theist who does not respect the beliefs of the entire world’s population. They had to disrespect everyone who is religious, not just Christians.

This point you are correct on. I do not discriminate against Christians specifically. I think they are all a problem, and that is pretty clear to me. That goes for Islam, Judaism, Scientology, and any others.

^you are as intolerant and bigoted as the evangelical Christians you call intolerant and bigoted.

There is no place in America for bigots. You are very proud to be bigoted against billions of people. I respect your right to not like religion, but I don’t like or respect the complete disregard and disrespect you feel and display towards your fellow man.

So is OK for you to be bigoted against racists, who we both agree are awful, but not OK for me to be bigoted against an ideology I feel is just as harmful to the world?

Your logic is not sound. That's a "respectful" response.

The world will be a much better place when people don't have belief in ancient myths. If you find that opinion "disrespectful", well then that's your baggage, not mine.

Are you telling me you don't think the world will be a better place when women don't have to wear burkas and have the same rights as men? Please answer this question to continue the discussion.

I don’t think that you have to like religion. You can hate religion, every religion But your hatred for religion is translating into hatred and disrespect for your fellow man.

If you feel that way towards every religious person on the planet, I saw with sincerity, I think that reflects upon you and not the people of the world.

Other people’s beliefs should not drive you to hatred. We can’t and won’t ever have the same beliefs. I can’t imagine hating everyone I disagreed with. Having so much hatred inside you will make you very unhappy.

Sorry, maybe I was not clear:

Are you telling me you don't think the world will be a better place when women don't have to wear burkas and have the same rights as men? Please answer this question to continue the discussion.

Unless you are purposefully avoiding it...

So I guess you are, in fact, avoiding responding to this, PP?

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments. All good morals.

I knew this post was coming...

It is immaterial what you think about the Ten Commandments. We do not live in a theocracy governed by one religion. If you want your kid to be surrounded by biblical teachings, then enroll him/her in a religious school.

So not killing people and not lying and not stealing are religious teachings?

It's all good. Print them and put them up everywhere! I can't believe they weren't put up sooner. I look forward to when the commandments appear in all schools and public buildings in my state. We need to show everyone who we are: a Christian nation.

Except the 1st Amendment clearly states that we are not a Christian nation. If you want a Christian nation, go create one. Only problem is that you'll actually have to act like a Christian is so-said nation.

Well you can teach your children the Ten Commandments are shameful and that they are free to do everything the Ten Commandments says not to do, with pride. Problem solved.

How about we cut the ones that refer to god, going to church/temple.

Love the one about greed. Make every CEO, billionaire, and people in finance, and politicians out that one up in their offices and I’ll agree to putting the ones minus mention of a god up in school. Deal?

Who do you think we are? We (two rando anon dcum posters) are going to make a deal here on dcum to force CEOs, billionaires, people in finance, to hang up a copy of the 10 Commandments in their offices? And then you will generously agree to allow some of the 10 Commandments to be hung up in schools
nationwide?

What is your purpose in pretending that is possible? Do you think anything you asked me to agree to is remotely possible? I like discussing political issues and respect your opinion, but challenging me to make a deal with fantasy, unrealistic terms is just too strange for me. Feel free to extend your offer to another poster; I decline.

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What if a parent chooses to NOT have their kid sit in a room with the Ten Commandments? Can they opt them out? What about "parental choice"?