UT Austin lays off DEI employees

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

What a useless response.

Why are the anti-DEI people rude?

Calling people names doesn't help your cause. Still waiting on how DEI department are really moving the needle. They are on their way out and all that's left is calling people names and insulting them when they stop drinking the Kool Aid.

Being aggressive doesn't help your cause.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

What a useless response.

Why are the anti-DEI people rude?

Calling people names doesn't help your cause. Still waiting on how DEI department are really moving the needle. They are on their way out and all that's left is calling people names and insulting them when they stop drinking the Kool Aid.

Being aggressive doesn't help your cause.

But my cause is winning. Yours is on life support.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

What a useless response.

Why are the anti-DEI people rude?

Calling people names doesn't help your cause. Still waiting on how DEI department are really moving the needle. They are on their way out and all that's left is calling people names and insulting them when they stop drinking the Kool Aid.

Being aggressive doesn't help your cause.

But my cause is winning. Yours is on life support.

If that makes you feel better, sure.