UT Austin lays off DEI employees

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When they fire all the diverse-acrats, will tuition become affordable again?

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Anonymous wrote:This decision only makes it more attractive. DEI employees are toxic to their cause.

This is actually true, because DEI makes the workplace hostile, in many cases.

I agree. They implement policies that are only established to instill anger and confusion. They do NOT, in fact, help with issues in enrollment.

The entire premise is tearing down some groups to prop up others. It's the antithesis on inclusion.

Source?

Our eyes.

In other words, no proof, just paranoia.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

The Chief DEI Officer has arrived.

Usually if folks have a rebuttal they don’t resort to sarcasm.

True which is why it's just deflection and obfuscation instead of actually proving why DEI programs are necessary and valuable. Not one shred of evidence or proof. Seems like that should be easy to provide since they are being defended so strongly here. Make the case.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

The Chief DEI Officer has arrived.

Usually if folks have a rebuttal they don’t resort to sarcasm.

True which is why it's just deflection and obfuscation instead of actually proving why DEI programs are necessary and valuable. Not one shred of evidence or proof. Seems like that should be easy to provide since they are being defended so strongly here. Make the case.

“I remind people in both Fisher [U.S. Supreme Court] cases, there are amicus briefs submitted by the Fortune 100 and the military saying [diversity] is something that's critical to our ability to be competitive. Having a diverse population and having students have an opportunity to learn from each other and expose to each other's identities is such an important part of what makes us competitive economically, socially, politically. So that can't go away,” he says, asserting that this is a time to lean into diversity in the college admissions and lean on partners in higher education to continue being committed to diversity.

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/ideas/edcast/23/10/future-dei-higher-education

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

The DEI race-hustling grievance mongers should be kind to the rest of us by going away and getting productive jobs instead of being a drain on society.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

The Chief DEI Officer has arrived.

Usually if folks have a rebuttal they don’t resort to sarcasm.

True which is why it's just deflection and obfuscation instead of actually proving why DEI programs are necessary and valuable. Not one shred of evidence or proof. Seems like that should be easy to provide since they are being defended so strongly here. Make the case.

“I remind people in both Fisher [U.S. Supreme Court] cases, there are amicus briefs submitted by the Fortune 100 and the military saying [diversity] is something that's critical to our ability to be competitive. Having a diverse population and having students have an opportunity to learn from each other and expose to each other's identities is such an important part of what makes us competitive economically, socially, politically. So that can't go away,” he says, asserting that this is a time to lean into diversity in the college admissions and lean on partners in higher education to continue being committed to diversity.

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/ideas/edcast/23/10/future-dei-higher-education

The Admissions department seems to be doing a great job. Check the stats on UT earlier in the thread. What does that have to do with the DEI department? Are they handling admissions now?

[Anonymous]

I’m a professor and I agree that DEI offices do more harm than good, and are an enormous strain on our budget. They hire consultants, have their own staff, host expensive events, and get paid probably twice what I get paid as a tenured professor. We need to cut all kinds of administrative bloat and get back to educating students, not coddling them through 4 years (and I don’t include mental health services in the coddling category, before anyone jumps to that conclusion).

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

What a useless response.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

The DEI race-hustling grievance mongers should be kind to the rest of us by going away and getting productive jobs instead of being a drain on society.

I wish you peace.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

What a useless response.

Why are the anti-DEI people rude?

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

The DEI race-hustling grievance mongers should be kind to the rest of us by going away and getting productive jobs instead of being a drain on society.

Isn't minimum wage $20 hour now?

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how the people so against DEI don’t seem to have an elementary understanding of the concepts.

Funny that these departments are so very important, according to you, yet nobody knows what they do. You’ve highlighted the problem. What value do they add?

Perhaps you don't know what they do, and that is my point.

Your point is weak because everyone who is familiar with these departments know they are talentless paper pushers. Your head must be next on the chopping block.

You previously said nobody knows what they do. Now suddenly everyone familiar with them knows they are paper pushers? Which is it?

Paper pushers do nothing, that's why it's called paper pushing. They add no discernible value. The way to justify your existence isn't to say at least you don't suck as much as those other guys (golf).

You said nobody knows what they do, so how do you know that they do nothing?

Even if we haven’t dealt with college DEI staff, we’ve seen what they do in government or private businesses. And it’s ridiculous. Emails wishing everyone Happy Samoan New Year & inviting everybody to a workshop on how to help your confused 3rd grader find their true self.

There are already tons of college offices filled with counselors & facilitators of all types waiting to help people with every imaginable problem.

Why not just delete the email and not attend the workshop? Why is that programming a problem?

Because they buy the materials for those workshops or they bring in third parties to teach those workshops. Either way, it's a massive waste of money

Who buys the materials? Are you this concerned about the cost of office parties, retreats, conferences?

Instead of pointing out all the good and valuable things these folks do you instead engage in "whataboutism" which speaks for itself. They are nonessential to day to day business. Do you think there is no cost benefit analysis when making business decisions?

Are you unable to answer my question? Who exactly buys these supposed materials? Why is this cost unacceptable but other non-essential expenses are fine?

No, you answer the question. What valuable measurable service to these people provide?

Let us know when you are prepared to answer the question.

I’m not the PP but of the two questions, the question of what valuable measurable service DEI brings is obviously a reasonable one. It’s quite telling that you can’t answer it.

It's quite telling that if you don't understand, maybe we do need DEI services.

We can't tell you what we do or why the company should keep us around but let's have another workshop so we appear busy and useful. Sounds about right.

Have you ever tried to understand?

If they had a point but it's often a snooze fest distracting from more important things that have to get done. Again, why are you asking everyone to justify cutting departments that are already on their way out? The writing is on the wall. People like you have failed to earn your keep and demonstrate your value to organizations.

If that is your attitude, you have not tried.

Sure. Well, luckily these are becoming fewer in number so I'm not alone.

Sad, I hope one day you can understand.

Hopefully your next career will pan out better since you were a dismal failure at this one if nobody got your message.

I’m truly sorry you feel the need to treat people like this. I hope you find peace.

I'm sorry the grift is ending. Maybe universities can get back to doing what they do best.

Maybe you can learn to be kind.

What a useless response.

Why are the anti-DEI people rude?

Calling people names doesn't help your cause. Still waiting on how DEI department are really moving the needle. They are on their way out and all that's left is calling people names and insulting them when they stop drinking the Kool Aid.

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All of the DMV’s MAGA lovers are on this thread. Round’em up!