Will there be fewer applicants to Harvard, Penn, MIT next year?

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Anonymous wrote:Probably more than ever! So many people proud of these schools for the excellent way they have handled free speech on a very tough subject! Go MIT PENN HARVARD!!!!

+100 and not caving to money bribes (donations)

I will just repost what I posted earlier in response:
You obviously don't understand what free speech actually means. You should read the definition then listen to what was said. Calls for genocide of an ethnic group is not protected speech. Saying you hate an ethnic group is protected. Telling people to kill them is not.

But wasn't it that the question first conflated "intifada" with "genocide" which intifada doesn't mean--it means uprising. Just like claiming that the phrase the "river to the sea" doesn't mean that the students are calling for genocide from the river to the sea. That's why these were "gotcha" question because the presidents are responding to a moments-earlier conflation, while the immediate question is about a hypothetical situation where the students actually called for genocide. I think the presidents didn't perform great because they should have known better about the aims of who they were dealing with and that you have to expect that want matters is the 10 second clip, not the 30 second clip.

All three should have been able to handle that situation and in fact should have expected it. They obviously walked into the hearing without sufficient preparation and with a good deal of arrogance. I think they expected the fawning that is probably their day-to-day experience.

Cue the VAR. Anyone watching more than a few seconds of the hearing has moved on.

DP. Not me. The presidents handled the testimony badly. No way around that.

+1. I stopped my harvard donations.

Why give money to Harvard in the first place? They don’t need any money

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Anonymous wrote:There is zero chance I will allow either of my children to apply to Harvard, UPenn, or MIT as long as Gay, Magill, or Kornbluth are their respective presidents.

There are equal or better options available which are not led by antiSemites.

There is close to zero chances your kids would ever get in, so that's not really an issue. Doesn't matter if they are valedictorian with 1600 SATs etc.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:No one gets in from our school anyway. 40-50 kids apply every year and all are rejected save one or two every few years.

I know many many kids who apply to MIT every year and no one gets in.
Almost impossible to get into MiT these days unless you have established yourself already as an Uber-STEM prodigy. If the process gets a tiny bit easier, it is not a bad thing

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish students should not be subjected to hate and harassment on college campuses.

Applications to Ivies, MiT, Stanford, etc. will not decrease - at all.

Should any students be harassed on college campuses? Should Muslim students or Russian students or Syrian students be harassed?

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish students should not be subjected to hate and harassment on college campuses.

Applications to Ivies, MiT, Stanford, etc. will not decrease - at all.

Should any students be harassed on college campuses? Should Muslim students or Russian students or Syrian students be harassed?

What if you are a Maga Trump student? Should you be subjected to hate or harassment?

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Anonymous wrote:Probably more than ever! So many people proud of these schools for the excellent way they have handled free speech on a very tough subject! Go MIT PENN HARVARD!!!!

+100 and not caving to money bribes (donations)

I will just repost what I posted earlier in response:
You obviously don't understand what free speech actually means. You should read the definition then listen to what was said. Calls for genocide of an ethnic group is not protected speech. Saying you hate an ethnic group is protected. Telling people to kill them is not.

But wasn't it that the question first conflated "intifada" with "genocide" which intifada doesn't mean--it means uprising. Just like claiming that the phrase the "river to the sea" doesn't mean that the students are calling for genocide from the river to the sea. That's why these were "gotcha" question because the presidents are responding to a moments-earlier conflation, while the immediate question is about a hypothetical situation where the students actually called for genocide. I think the presidents didn't perform great because they should have known better about the aims of who they were dealing with and that you have to expect that want matters is the 10 second clip, not the 30 second clip.

All three should have been able to handle that situation and in fact should have expected it. They obviously walked into the hearing without sufficient preparation and with a good deal of arrogance. I think they expected the fawning that is probably their day-to-day experience.

Cue the VAR. Anyone watching more than a few seconds of the hearing has moved on.

DP. Not me. The presidents handled the testimony badly. No way around that.

+1. I stopped my harvard donations.

Why give money to Harvard in the first place? They don’t need any money

Those schools are so well-endowed that they will not miss your donation at all.

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Anonymous wrote:No one gets in from our school anyway. 40-50 kids apply every year and all are rejected save one or two every few years.

I know many many kids who apply to MIT every year and no one gets in.
Almost impossible to get into MiT these days unless you have established yourself already as an Uber-STEM prodigy. If the process gets a tiny bit easier, it is not a bad thing

x1000

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not for MIT.

I think some students and families will reconsider Penn. Many actually. This has been a disaster for Penn.

Harvard gets the brass ring students. It's been like that for a while. The goal is Harvard. That's all that matters. The nuances of genocide is not going to dissuade them. There are tons of amoral high stats well-connected kids who will take that apex degree.

For every Jewish kid that wavers about Penn, there are about 5 Asian kids with identical stats dying to get in

Jews aren’t going to turn down Penn for Alabama

More like 55 for every one, but yeah.

Exactly right. The Ivies will continue to attract top students and maybe now more AAPI will be admitted.

Makes me wonder who is promoting threads like this. People with ulterior motives?

Because the Jewish people we know IRL who are alumni and/or have kids at Penn want to see an appropriate correction; they are not cutting ties over this.

This. The alumni are making their voices heard but that doesn't mean they don't want their kids and grandkids never to go there.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not for MIT.

I think some students and families will reconsider Penn. Many actually. This has been a disaster for Penn.

Harvard gets the brass ring students. It's been like that for a while. The goal is Harvard. That's all that matters. The nuances of genocide is not going to dissuade them. There are tons of amoral high stats well-connected kids who will take that apex degree.

For every Jewish kid that wavers about Penn, there are about 5 Asian kids with identical stats dying to get in

Jews aren’t going to turn down Penn for Alabama

More like 55 for every one, but yeah.

Exactly right. The Ivies will continue to attract top students and maybe now more AAPI will be admitted.

Makes me wonder who is promoting threads like this. People with ulterior motives?

Because the Jewish people we know IRL who are alumni and/or have kids at Penn want to see an appropriate correction; they are not cutting ties over this.

This. The alumni are making their voices heard but that doesn't mean they don't want their kids and grandkids never to go there.

Disagree….growing movement in my Jewish community to find viable Ed alternatives that are truly safe for our kids.

My what’s app groups post 10/7 are filled with this topic

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not for MIT.

I think some students and families will reconsider Penn. Many actually. This has been a disaster for Penn.

Harvard gets the brass ring students. It's been like that for a while. The goal is Harvard. That's all that matters. The nuances of genocide is not going to dissuade them. There are tons of amoral high stats well-connected kids who will take that apex degree.

For every Jewish kid that wavers about Penn, there are about 5 Asian kids with identical stats dying to get in

Jews aren’t going to turn down Penn for Alabama

More like 55 for every one, but yeah.

Exactly right. The Ivies will continue to attract top students and maybe now more AAPI will be admitted.

Makes me wonder who is promoting threads like this. People with ulterior motives?

Because the Jewish people we know IRL who are alumni and/or have kids at Penn want to see an appropriate correction; they are not cutting ties over this.

This. The alumni are making their voices heard but that doesn't mean they don't want their kids and grandkids never to go there.

Disagree….growing movement in my Jewish community to find viable Ed alternatives that are truly safe for our kids.

My what’s app groups post 10/7 are filled with this topic [/quote

A correction is not the worst thing.
Jewish people are generally over-focused on elite schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes definitely. Not only will there be no Jewish students applying, but many non-Jewish will look elsewhere. The schools are getting blacklisted by quite a few CEOs and others will be hesitant to welcome a graduate into a diverse working atmosphere.

Wall Street is not blacklisting the Wharton School. Get real.

Idk. The Wharton school doesn’t look so great now. No NYC business wants to hire brain-dead ideologues. It’s bad for business.

Wishful thinking. Our company will definitely continue hiring there, as well as Harvard and MIT.

You may reconsider this in a few months…
Ackman building a movement….


There’s def monitoring of applicants social media during hiring at our firm

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not for MIT.

I think some students and families will reconsider Penn. Many actually. This has been a disaster for Penn.

Harvard gets the brass ring students. It's been like that for a while. The goal is Harvard. That's all that matters. The nuances of genocide is not going to dissuade them. There are tons of amoral high stats well-connected kids who will take that apex degree.

For every Jewish kid that wavers about Penn, there are about 5 Asian kids with identical stats dying to get in

Jews aren’t going to turn down Penn for Alabama

More like 55 for every one, but yeah.

Exactly right. The Ivies will continue to attract top students and maybe now more AAPI will be admitted.

Makes me wonder who is promoting threads like this. People with ulterior motives?

Because the Jewish people we know IRL who are alumni and/or have kids at Penn want to see an appropriate correction; they are not cutting ties over this.

This. The alumni are making their voices heard but that doesn't mean they don't want their kids and grandkids never to go there.

Disagree….growing movement in my Jewish community to find viable Ed alternatives that are truly safe for our kids.

My what’s app groups post 10/7 are filled with this topic [/quote

A correction is not the worst thing.
Jewish people are generally over-focused on elite schools.

What schools are people considering?

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not for MIT.

I think some students and families will reconsider Penn. Many actually. This has been a disaster for Penn.

Harvard gets the brass ring students. It's been like that for a while. The goal is Harvard. That's all that matters. The nuances of genocide is not going to dissuade them. There are tons of amoral high stats well-connected kids who will take that apex degree.

For every Jewish kid that wavers about Penn, there are about 5 Asian kids with identical stats dying to get in

Jews aren’t going to turn down Penn for Alabama

More like 55 for every one, but yeah.

Exactly right. The Ivies will continue to attract top students and maybe now more AAPI will be admitted.

Makes me wonder who is promoting threads like this. People with ulterior motives?

Because the Jewish people we know IRL who are alumni and/or have kids at Penn want to see an appropriate correction; they are not cutting ties over this.

This. The alumni are making their voices heard but that doesn't mean they don't want their kids and grandkids never to go there.

Disagree….growing movement in my Jewish community to find viable Ed alternatives that are truly safe for our kids.

My what’s app groups post 10/7 are filled with this topic

This is a short-term reaction.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes definitely. Not only will there be no Jewish students applying, but many non-Jewish will look elsewhere. The schools are getting blacklisted by quite a few CEOs and others will be hesitant to welcome a graduate into a diverse working atmosphere.

Wall Street is not blacklisting the Wharton School. Get real.

Idk. The Wharton school doesn’t look so great now. No NYC business wants to hire brain-dead ideologues. It’s bad for business.

Wishful thinking. Our company will definitely continue hiring there, as well as Harvard and MIT.

You may reconsider this in a few months…
Ackman building a movement….


There’s def monitoring of applicants social media during hiring at our firm

Those are specific kids.

I guarantee Ackman is not excluding the student head of Harvard Hillel for his hiring, nor the thousands of other kids that are busy getting their Math, STEM and other quant degrees and don’t have time to protest non-stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes definitely. Not only will there be no Jewish students applying, but many non-Jewish will look elsewhere. The schools are getting blacklisted by quite a few CEOs and others will be hesitant to welcome a graduate into a diverse working atmosphere.

Wall Street is not blacklisting the Wharton School. Get real.

Idk. The Wharton school doesn’t look so great now. No NYC business wants to hire brain-dead ideologues. It’s bad for business.

Wishful thinking. Our company will definitely continue hiring there, as well as Harvard and MIT.

You may reconsider this in a few months…
Ackman building a movement….


There’s def monitoring of applicants social media during hiring at our firm

Those are specific kids.

I guarantee Ackman is not excluding the student head of Harvard Hillel for his hiring, nor the thousands of other kids that are busy getting their Math, STEM and other quant degrees and don’t have time to protest non-stop.

Pershing Square employs less than 50 people. Ackerman can decide to never hire another ivy league grad again without effecting a single student now attending Harvard or Penn