The PD video teachers must watch on Monday

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Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/lKjXipZjLj4

Imagine you are one of Biedleman;s victims when you get to the about 5:30

It's really nice that your work invests in your development. Most places don't and feel that's something you do on your own time.

I wish MCPS would invest in professional development instead of counterproductive propaganda.

What qualifies as "professional development" in your view, then?

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe I actually took 20 minutes out of my life to watch this train wreck. Holy Molu. Teachers I feel for you.

If I was expected to sit through an hour of perky “Carla” condescending to me like she does in this video, I swear I would get up and walk out of the room.

And no, sweetheart, the definition of “freedom” is not keeping people and their feelings “safe.”

Where in the hell do they find these people?

Here in Montgomery County!

No, she's on the faculty at U of Michigan
"Carla Shalaby's professional and personal commitment is to education as the practice of freedom, and her research centers on cultivating and documenting daily classroom work that protects the dignity of every child and honors young people’s rights to expression, to self-determination, and to full human being. Specifically, she is interested in practices of critical pedagogy and critical literacy at the elementary level; classroom community and "management" as the practice of democracy; and the relationships between the daily work of teachers and the ongoing struggle for justice. Carla previously served as director of the Elementary Master of Arts in Teaching program at Brown University, and as the director of elementary education at Wellesley College. She started her career as a teacher of grades four and five in her New Jersey hometown. Carla holds a B.A in English from Rutgers College, an M.Ed in Elementary Education from the Rutgers Graduate School of Education, and an M.A. and doctoral degree in Culture, Communities, and Education from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She is the author of Troublemakers: Lessons in Freedom from Young Children at School (New Press, 2017)."

https://marsal.umich.edu/directory/faculty-staff/carla-shalaby

So very, very little actual teaching experience. Got it.

I think this is an interesting think piece for teachers in k-2. It’s not very useful for middle and high school teachers. And also probably not very helpful for teachers who are basically drowning right now. It’s not the time to have an interesting philosophical discussion about development theory. Maybe this would work better targeted to k-2 teachers as a summer session PD, paired with discussion among the grace level team about what they can see working in their classroom. Translating PhD theory to in the ground tools is often challenging. The fact that anyone at McPS thought it was a good piece to mandate for all teachers on their own call PD day is troubling.

I once had an education professor tell me he had a better grasp of K-12 education than I did, even though I had 15 years of full-time teaching experience and he had none. None. Zero.

He told me I was too clouded by the classroom to see the real problems within education, something that he was apparently able to see quite clearly from behind a desk at a university.

That professor and the woman from page 1 of this thread have something in common: they aren’t teachers. They get to comfortably speak in theory, but those of us in practice have already moved beyond cute theories to actually having to do the work.

It’s insulting, really, when people who have little to no experience tell US what we should be doing. Trust me: teachers see right through this crap.

Did you keep an open mind, that your 15 years of experience might not be the be all and end all of education? Or were you as dismissive as you seem to be in your post?

I try to keep and open mind and learn new things that make me better in the classroom.

Now mind your spot.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Stuck in your ways.

I’m the PP with the obnoxious professor. I’m not the one who wrote “now mind your spot.”

Of course I kept an open mind, and then he spent the next month spewing nonsense about how easy teaching is and how teachers are just too lazy to do things correctly.

I wonder… did HE keep an open mind? Did HE consider that there was something a person with actual k-12 experience could teach him? No, he did not. He went so far as to tell me that. Mr. PhD had all the solutions and all the theory, but none of the practice. He dismissed those with the practice as unqualified, ironically.

So before you assume I’m just one more close-minded teacher, ask yourself why his opinion immediately seemed more valuable to you than mine.

YESSS +100! What an abusive response to your post. I have worked with so many PhDs that are so disconnected with reality. There is a difference between book smart and 'street smart'. We are in the trenches. Would you tell a soldier what to do in the middle of battle as an outsider sitting in a cushy office? How INSULTING. I'm so sick of the narrative that everything is OUR FAULT. GTFO. I have the absolute worst kids I have ever had this year - I transferred into a new school (to me). Apparently, this group of kids has been really tough to work with for the past two years. But apparently "I" - being new to the school and having to build brand new relationships - need to do better so the kids listen. I was going to quit last year but I really wanted to keep my benefits because my child was in treatment. I hate this profession right now. I took off tomorrow. My time is too valuable to be told I'm doing things wrong constantly.

Good for you! I’m glad you took tomorrow off. You’ll be better for it.

Education isn’t going to improve until people who actually teach are in charge. Nothing is going to get better if we keep listening to people with little to no teaching experience. It’s absurd.

IKR! We need to start smacking with rulers and paddles again. Make sure the kids know who's in charge. Who cares what the researchers say!

I would gladly take a paddle to the kid who assaulted my child in the bathroom at his high school last month. You are just as clueless as the dips**t in that video. Parents need to start being criminally responsible for their child’s behavior then. If that is what it takes.

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Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/lKjXipZjLj4

Imagine you are one of Biedleman;s victims when you get to the about 5:30

It's really nice that your work invests in your development. Most places don't and feel that's something you do on your own time.

I wish MCPS would invest in professional development instead of counterproductive propaganda.

Exactly! I need PD on how to best support the thrice exceptional children I’m assigned, none of whom are behavioral issues. However, I’m told to do that on my own time and instead PD is for this.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe I actually took 20 minutes out of my life to watch this train wreck. Holy Molu. Teachers I feel for you.

If I was expected to sit through an hour of perky “Carla” condescending to me like she does in this video, I swear I would get up and walk out of the room.

And no, sweetheart, the definition of “freedom” is not keeping people and their feelings “safe.”

Where in the hell do they find these people?

Here in Montgomery County!

No, she's on the faculty at U of Michigan
"Carla Shalaby's professional and personal commitment is to education as the practice of freedom, and her research centers on cultivating and documenting daily classroom work that protects the dignity of every child and honors young people’s rights to expression, to self-determination, and to full human being. Specifically, she is interested in practices of critical pedagogy and critical literacy at the elementary level; classroom community and "management" as the practice of democracy; and the relationships between the daily work of teachers and the ongoing struggle for justice. Carla previously served as director of the Elementary Master of Arts in Teaching program at Brown University, and as the director of elementary education at Wellesley College. She started her career as a teacher of grades four and five in her New Jersey hometown. Carla holds a B.A in English from Rutgers College, an M.Ed in Elementary Education from the Rutgers Graduate School of Education, and an M.A. and doctoral degree in Culture, Communities, and Education from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She is the author of Troublemakers: Lessons in Freedom from Young Children at School (New Press, 2017)."

https://marsal.umich.edu/directory/faculty-staff/carla-shalaby

So very, very little actual teaching experience. Got it.

I think this is an interesting think piece for teachers in k-2. It’s not very useful for middle and high school teachers. And also probably not very helpful for teachers who are basically drowning right now. It’s not the time to have an interesting philosophical discussion about development theory. Maybe this would work better targeted to k-2 teachers as a summer session PD, paired with discussion among the grace level team about what they can see working in their classroom. Translating PhD theory to in the ground tools is often challenging. The fact that anyone at McPS thought it was a good piece to mandate for all teachers on their own call PD day is troubling.

I once had an education professor tell me he had a better grasp of K-12 education than I did, even though I had 15 years of full-time teaching experience and he had none. None. Zero.

He told me I was too clouded by the classroom to see the real problems within education, something that he was apparently able to see quite clearly from behind a desk at a university.

That professor and the woman from page 1 of this thread have something in common: they aren’t teachers. They get to comfortably speak in theory, but those of us in practice have already moved beyond cute theories to actually having to do the work.

It’s insulting, really, when people who have little to no experience tell US what we should be doing. Trust me: teachers see right through this crap.

Did you keep an open mind, that your 15 years of experience might not be the be all and end all of education? Or were you as dismissive as you seem to be in your post?

I try to keep and open mind and learn new things that make me better in the classroom.

Now mind your spot.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Stuck in your ways.

I’m the PP with the obnoxious professor. I’m not the one who wrote “now mind your spot.”

Of course I kept an open mind, and then he spent the next month spewing nonsense about how easy teaching is and how teachers are just too lazy to do things correctly.

I wonder… did HE keep an open mind? Did HE consider that there was something a person with actual k-12 experience could teach him? No, he did not. He went so far as to tell me that. Mr. PhD had all the solutions and all the theory, but none of the practice. He dismissed those with the practice as unqualified, ironically.

So before you assume I’m just one more close-minded teacher, ask yourself why his opinion immediately seemed more valuable to you than mine.

YESSS +100! What an abusive response to your post. I have worked with so many PhDs that are so disconnected with reality. There is a difference between book smart and 'street smart'. We are in the trenches. Would you tell a soldier what to do in the middle of battle as an outsider sitting in a cushy office? How INSULTING. I'm so sick of the narrative that everything is OUR FAULT. GTFO. I have the absolute worst kids I have ever had this year - I transferred into a new school (to me). Apparently, this group of kids has been really tough to work with for the past two years. But apparently "I" - being new to the school and having to build brand new relationships - need to do better so the kids listen. I was going to quit last year but I really wanted to keep my benefits because my child was in treatment. I hate this profession right now. I took off tomorrow. My time is too valuable to be told I'm doing things wrong constantly.

Good for you! I’m glad you took tomorrow off. You’ll be better for it.

Education isn’t going to improve until people who actually teach are in charge. Nothing is going to get better if we keep listening to people with little to no teaching experience. It’s absurd.

IKR! We need to start smacking with rulers and paddles again. Make sure the kids know who's in charge. Who cares what the researchers say!

I would gladly take a paddle to the kid who assaulted my child in the bathroom at his high school last month. You are just as clueless as the dips**t in that video. Parents need to start being criminally responsible for their child’s behavior then. If that is what it takes.

That's a horrible thing and I'm sorry it happened. Paddling won't change the assaulter, though, except perhaps make him more sure violence is an appropriate, societally recognized response.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe I actually took 20 minutes out of my life to watch this train wreck. Holy Molu. Teachers I feel for you.

If I was expected to sit through an hour of perky “Carla” condescending to me like she does in this video, I swear I would get up and walk out of the room.

And no, sweetheart, the definition of “freedom” is not keeping people and their feelings “safe.”

Where in the hell do they find these people?

Here in Montgomery County!

No, she's on the faculty at U of Michigan
"Carla Shalaby's professional and personal commitment is to education as the practice of freedom, and her research centers on cultivating and documenting daily classroom work that protects the dignity of every child and honors young people’s rights to expression, to self-determination, and to full human being. Specifically, she is interested in practices of critical pedagogy and critical literacy at the elementary level; classroom community and "management" as the practice of democracy; and the relationships between the daily work of teachers and the ongoing struggle for justice. Carla previously served as director of the Elementary Master of Arts in Teaching program at Brown University, and as the director of elementary education at Wellesley College. She started her career as a teacher of grades four and five in her New Jersey hometown. Carla holds a B.A in English from Rutgers College, an M.Ed in Elementary Education from the Rutgers Graduate School of Education, and an M.A. and doctoral degree in Culture, Communities, and Education from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She is the author of Troublemakers: Lessons in Freedom from Young Children at School (New Press, 2017)."

https://marsal.umich.edu/directory/faculty-staff/carla-shalaby

So very, very little actual teaching experience. Got it.

I think this is an interesting think piece for teachers in k-2. It’s not very useful for middle and high school teachers. And also probably not very helpful for teachers who are basically drowning right now. It’s not the time to have an interesting philosophical discussion about development theory. Maybe this would work better targeted to k-2 teachers as a summer session PD, paired with discussion among the grace level team about what they can see working in their classroom. Translating PhD theory to in the ground tools is often challenging. The fact that anyone at McPS thought it was a good piece to mandate for all teachers on their own call PD day is troubling.

I once had an education professor tell me he had a better grasp of K-12 education than I did, even though I had 15 years of full-time teaching experience and he had none. None. Zero.

He told me I was too clouded by the classroom to see the real problems within education, something that he was apparently able to see quite clearly from behind a desk at a university.

That professor and the woman from page 1 of this thread have something in common: they aren’t teachers. They get to comfortably speak in theory, but those of us in practice have already moved beyond cute theories to actually having to do the work.

It’s insulting, really, when people who have little to no experience tell US what we should be doing. Trust me: teachers see right through this crap.

Did you keep an open mind, that your 15 years of experience might not be the be all and end all of education? Or were you as dismissive as you seem to be in your post?

I try to keep and open mind and learn new things that make me better in the classroom.

Now mind your spot.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Stuck in your ways.

I’m the PP with the obnoxious professor. I’m not the one who wrote “now mind your spot.”

Of course I kept an open mind, and then he spent the next month spewing nonsense about how easy teaching is and how teachers are just too lazy to do things correctly.

I wonder… did HE keep an open mind? Did HE consider that there was something a person with actual k-12 experience could teach him? No, he did not. He went so far as to tell me that. Mr. PhD had all the solutions and all the theory, but none of the practice. He dismissed those with the practice as unqualified, ironically.

So before you assume I’m just one more close-minded teacher, ask yourself why his opinion immediately seemed more valuable to you than mine.

YESSS +100! What an abusive response to your post. I have worked with so many PhDs that are so disconnected with reality. There is a difference between book smart and 'street smart'. We are in the trenches. Would you tell a soldier what to do in the middle of battle as an outsider sitting in a cushy office? How INSULTING. I'm so sick of the narrative that everything is OUR FAULT. GTFO. I have the absolute worst kids I have ever had this year - I transferred into a new school (to me). Apparently, this group of kids has been really tough to work with for the past two years. But apparently "I" - being new to the school and having to build brand new relationships - need to do better so the kids listen. I was going to quit last year but I really wanted to keep my benefits because my child was in treatment. I hate this profession right now. I took off tomorrow. My time is too valuable to be told I'm doing things wrong constantly.

Good for you! I’m glad you took tomorrow off. You’ll be better for it.

Education isn’t going to improve until people who actually teach are in charge. Nothing is going to get better if we keep listening to people with little to no teaching experience. It’s absurd.

IKR! We need to start smacking with rulers and paddles again. Make sure the kids know who's in charge. Who cares what the researchers say!

I would gladly take a paddle to the kid who assaulted my child in the bathroom at his high school last month. You are just as clueless as the dips**t in that video. Parents need to start being criminally responsible for their child’s behavior then. If that is what it takes.

Amen! Parents absolutely need to be responsible for their children's behavior. The schools need to start pushing back on this

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe I actually took 20 minutes out of my life to watch this train wreck. Holy Molu. Teachers I feel for you.

If I was expected to sit through an hour of perky “Carla” condescending to me like she does in this video, I swear I would get up and walk out of the room.

And no, sweetheart, the definition of “freedom” is not keeping people and their feelings “safe.”

Where in the hell do they find these people?

Here in Montgomery County!

No, she's on the faculty at U of Michigan
"Carla Shalaby's professional and personal commitment is to education as the practice of freedom, and her research centers on cultivating and documenting daily classroom work that protects the dignity of every child and honors young people’s rights to expression, to self-determination, and to full human being. Specifically, she is interested in practices of critical pedagogy and critical literacy at the elementary level; classroom community and "management" as the practice of democracy; and the relationships between the daily work of teachers and the ongoing struggle for justice. Carla previously served as director of the Elementary Master of Arts in Teaching program at Brown University, and as the director of elementary education at Wellesley College. She started her career as a teacher of grades four and five in her New Jersey hometown. Carla holds a B.A in English from Rutgers College, an M.Ed in Elementary Education from the Rutgers Graduate School of Education, and an M.A. and doctoral degree in Culture, Communities, and Education from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She is the author of Troublemakers: Lessons in Freedom from Young Children at School (New Press, 2017)."

https://marsal.umich.edu/directory/faculty-staff/carla-shalaby

So very, very little actual teaching experience. Got it.

I think this is an interesting think piece for teachers in k-2. It’s not very useful for middle and high school teachers. And also probably not very helpful for teachers who are basically drowning right now. It’s not the time to have an interesting philosophical discussion about development theory. Maybe this would work better targeted to k-2 teachers as a summer session PD, paired with discussion among the grace level team about what they can see working in their classroom. Translating PhD theory to in the ground tools is often challenging. The fact that anyone at McPS thought it was a good piece to mandate for all teachers on their own call PD day is troubling.

I once had an education professor tell me he had a better grasp of K-12 education than I did, even though I had 15 years of full-time teaching experience and he had none. None. Zero.

He told me I was too clouded by the classroom to see the real problems within education, something that he was apparently able to see quite clearly from behind a desk at a university.

That professor and the woman from page 1 of this thread have something in common: they aren’t teachers. They get to comfortably speak in theory, but those of us in practice have already moved beyond cute theories to actually having to do the work.

It’s insulting, really, when people who have little to no experience tell US what we should be doing. Trust me: teachers see right through this crap.

Did you keep an open mind, that your 15 years of experience might not be the be all and end all of education? Or were you as dismissive as you seem to be in your post?

I try to keep and open mind and learn new things that make me better in the classroom.

Now mind your spot.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Stuck in your ways.

I’m the PP with the obnoxious professor. I’m not the one who wrote “now mind your spot.”

Of course I kept an open mind, and then he spent the next month spewing nonsense about how easy teaching is and how teachers are just too lazy to do things correctly.

I wonder… did HE keep an open mind? Did HE consider that there was something a person with actual k-12 experience could teach him? No, he did not. He went so far as to tell me that. Mr. PhD had all the solutions and all the theory, but none of the practice. He dismissed those with the practice as unqualified, ironically.

So before you assume I’m just one more close-minded teacher, ask yourself why his opinion immediately seemed more valuable to you than mine.

YESSS +100! What an abusive response to your post. I have worked with so many PhDs that are so disconnected with reality. There is a difference between book smart and 'street smart'. We are in the trenches. Would you tell a soldier what to do in the middle of battle as an outsider sitting in a cushy office? How INSULTING. I'm so sick of the narrative that everything is OUR FAULT. GTFO. I have the absolute worst kids I have ever had this year - I transferred into a new school (to me). Apparently, this group of kids has been really tough to work with for the past two years. But apparently "I" - being new to the school and having to build brand new relationships - need to do better so the kids listen. I was going to quit last year but I really wanted to keep my benefits because my child was in treatment. I hate this profession right now. I took off tomorrow. My time is too valuable to be told I'm doing things wrong constantly.

Good for you! I’m glad you took tomorrow off. You’ll be better for it.

Education isn’t going to improve until people who actually teach are in charge. Nothing is going to get better if we keep listening to people with little to no teaching experience. It’s absurd.

IKR! We need to start smacking with rulers and paddles again. Make sure the kids know who's in charge. Who cares what the researchers say!

Guess what? I’m an expert in the cardiovascular system! (My credentials? I’ve stepped foot in hospitals and I have a cardiovascular system myself.) I’ll put together a video. I fully expect John’s Hopkins to round up all of their doctors and show it to them.

In all seriousness, school systems really need to be critical of the “research” they choose to follow. It’s time to listen to teachers, the ones who actually know what’s going on, and not the “researchers” shielded from reality.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of ahole admin put ads in this PD video?

If it's hosted on YouTube, it gets ads. That's how the platform is financed.

No, it’s at the discretion of the video owner. The owner of this video CHOSE to put ads, to monetize their video. Completely jerk move.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe I actually took 20 minutes out of my life to watch this train wreck. Holy Molu. Teachers I feel for you.

If I was expected to sit through an hour of perky “Carla” condescending to me like she does in this video, I swear I would get up and walk out of the room.

And no, sweetheart, the definition of “freedom” is not keeping people and their feelings “safe.”

Where in the hell do they find these people?

Here in Montgomery County!

No, she's on the faculty at U of Michigan
"Carla Shalaby's professional and personal commitment is to education as the practice of freedom, and her research centers on cultivating and documenting daily classroom work that protects the dignity of every child and honors young people’s rights to expression, to self-determination, and to full human being. Specifically, she is interested in practices of critical pedagogy and critical literacy at the elementary level; classroom community and "management" as the practice of democracy; and the relationships between the daily work of teachers and the ongoing struggle for justice. Carla previously served as director of the Elementary Master of Arts in Teaching program at Brown University, and as the director of elementary education at Wellesley College. She started her career as a teacher of grades four and five in her New Jersey hometown. Carla holds a B.A in English from Rutgers College, an M.Ed in Elementary Education from the Rutgers Graduate School of Education, and an M.A. and doctoral degree in Culture, Communities, and Education from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She is the author of Troublemakers: Lessons in Freedom from Young Children at School (New Press, 2017)."

https://marsal.umich.edu/directory/faculty-staff/carla-shalaby

So very, very little actual teaching experience. Got it.

I think this is an interesting think piece for teachers in k-2. It’s not very useful for middle and high school teachers. And also probably not very helpful for teachers who are basically drowning right now. It’s not the time to have an interesting philosophical discussion about development theory. Maybe this would work better targeted to k-2 teachers as a summer session PD, paired with discussion among the grace level team about what they can see working in their classroom. Translating PhD theory to in the ground tools is often challenging. The fact that anyone at McPS thought it was a good piece to mandate for all teachers on their own call PD day is troubling.

I once had an education professor tell me he had a better grasp of K-12 education than I did, even though I had 15 years of full-time teaching experience and he had none. None. Zero.

He told me I was too clouded by the classroom to see the real problems within education, something that he was apparently able to see quite clearly from behind a desk at a university.

That professor and the woman from page 1 of this thread have something in common: they aren’t teachers. They get to comfortably speak in theory, but those of us in practice have already moved beyond cute theories to actually having to do the work.

It’s insulting, really, when people who have little to no experience tell US what we should be doing. Trust me: teachers see right through this crap.

Did you keep an open mind, that your 15 years of experience might not be the be all and end all of education? Or were you as dismissive as you seem to be in your post?

I try to keep and open mind and learn new things that make me better in the classroom.

Now mind your spot.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Stuck in your ways.

I’m the PP with the obnoxious professor. I’m not the one who wrote “now mind your spot.”

Of course I kept an open mind, and then he spent the next month spewing nonsense about how easy teaching is and how teachers are just too lazy to do things correctly.

I wonder… did HE keep an open mind? Did HE consider that there was something a person with actual k-12 experience could teach him? No, he did not. He went so far as to tell me that. Mr. PhD had all the solutions and all the theory, but none of the practice. He dismissed those with the practice as unqualified, ironically.

So before you assume I’m just one more close-minded teacher, ask yourself why his opinion immediately seemed more valuable to you than mine.

YESSS +100! What an abusive response to your post. I have worked with so many PhDs that are so disconnected with reality. There is a difference between book smart and 'street smart'. We are in the trenches. Would you tell a soldier what to do in the middle of battle as an outsider sitting in a cushy office? How INSULTING. I'm so sick of the narrative that everything is OUR FAULT. GTFO. I have the absolute worst kids I have ever had this year - I transferred into a new school (to me). Apparently, this group of kids has been really tough to work with for the past two years. But apparently "I" - being new to the school and having to build brand new relationships - need to do better so the kids listen. I was going to quit last year but I really wanted to keep my benefits because my child was in treatment. I hate this profession right now. I took off tomorrow. My time is too valuable to be told I'm doing things wrong constantly.

Good for you! I’m glad you took tomorrow off. You’ll be better for it.

Education isn’t going to improve until people who actually teach are in charge. Nothing is going to get better if we keep listening to people with little to no teaching experience. It’s absurd.

IKR! We need to start smacking with rulers and paddles again. Make sure the kids know who's in charge. Who cares what the researchers say!

Guess what? I’m an expert in the cardiovascular system! (My credentials? I’ve stepped foot in hospitals and I have a cardiovascular system myself.) I’ll put together a video. I fully expect John’s Hopkins to round up all of their doctors and show it to them.

In all seriousness, school systems really need to be critical of the “research” they choose to follow. It’s time to listen to teachers, the ones who actually know what’s going on, and not the “researchers” shielded from reality.

Yes, just because facts and research prove something like smoking is bad for your health or that man evolved from primates doesn't mean we should accept it. I prefer to believe in magic@

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe I actually took 20 minutes out of my life to watch this train wreck. Holy Molu. Teachers I feel for you.

If I was expected to sit through an hour of perky “Carla” condescending to me like she does in this video, I swear I would get up and walk out of the room.

And no, sweetheart, the definition of “freedom” is not keeping people and their feelings “safe.”

Where in the hell do they find these people?

Here in Montgomery County!

No, she's on the faculty at U of Michigan
"Carla Shalaby's professional and personal commitment is to education as the practice of freedom, and her research centers on cultivating and documenting daily classroom work that protects the dignity of every child and honors young people’s rights to expression, to self-determination, and to full human being. Specifically, she is interested in practices of critical pedagogy and critical literacy at the elementary level; classroom community and "management" as the practice of democracy; and the relationships between the daily work of teachers and the ongoing struggle for justice. Carla previously served as director of the Elementary Master of Arts in Teaching program at Brown University, and as the director of elementary education at Wellesley College. She started her career as a teacher of grades four and five in her New Jersey hometown. Carla holds a B.A in English from Rutgers College, an M.Ed in Elementary Education from the Rutgers Graduate School of Education, and an M.A. and doctoral degree in Culture, Communities, and Education from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She is the author of Troublemakers: Lessons in Freedom from Young Children at School (New Press, 2017)."

https://marsal.umich.edu/directory/faculty-staff/carla-shalaby

So very, very little actual teaching experience. Got it.

I think this is an interesting think piece for teachers in k-2. It’s not very useful for middle and high school teachers. And also probably not very helpful for teachers who are basically drowning right now. It’s not the time to have an interesting philosophical discussion about development theory. Maybe this would work better targeted to k-2 teachers as a summer session PD, paired with discussion among the grace level team about what they can see working in their classroom. Translating PhD theory to in the ground tools is often challenging. The fact that anyone at McPS thought it was a good piece to mandate for all teachers on their own call PD day is troubling.

I once had an education professor tell me he had a better grasp of K-12 education than I did, even though I had 15 years of full-time teaching experience and he had none. None. Zero.

He told me I was too clouded by the classroom to see the real problems within education, something that he was apparently able to see quite clearly from behind a desk at a university.

That professor and the woman from page 1 of this thread have something in common: they aren’t teachers. They get to comfortably speak in theory, but those of us in practice have already moved beyond cute theories to actually having to do the work.

It’s insulting, really, when people who have little to no experience tell US what we should be doing. Trust me: teachers see right through this crap.

Did you keep an open mind, that your 15 years of experience might not be the be all and end all of education? Or were you as dismissive as you seem to be in your post?

I try to keep and open mind and learn new things that make me better in the classroom.

Now mind your spot.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Stuck in your ways.

I’m the PP with the obnoxious professor. I’m not the one who wrote “now mind your spot.”

Of course I kept an open mind, and then he spent the next month spewing nonsense about how easy teaching is and how teachers are just too lazy to do things correctly.

I wonder… did HE keep an open mind? Did HE consider that there was something a person with actual k-12 experience could teach him? No, he did not. He went so far as to tell me that. Mr. PhD had all the solutions and all the theory, but none of the practice. He dismissed those with the practice as unqualified, ironically.

So before you assume I’m just one more close-minded teacher, ask yourself why his opinion immediately seemed more valuable to you than mine.

YESSS +100! What an abusive response to your post. I have worked with so many PhDs that are so disconnected with reality. There is a difference between book smart and 'street smart'. We are in the trenches. Would you tell a soldier what to do in the middle of battle as an outsider sitting in a cushy office? How INSULTING. I'm so sick of the narrative that everything is OUR FAULT. GTFO. I have the absolute worst kids I have ever had this year - I transferred into a new school (to me). Apparently, this group of kids has been really tough to work with for the past two years. But apparently "I" - being new to the school and having to build brand new relationships - need to do better so the kids listen. I was going to quit last year but I really wanted to keep my benefits because my child was in treatment. I hate this profession right now. I took off tomorrow. My time is too valuable to be told I'm doing things wrong constantly.

Good for you! I’m glad you took tomorrow off. You’ll be better for it.

Education isn’t going to improve until people who actually teach are in charge. Nothing is going to get better if we keep listening to people with little to no teaching experience. It’s absurd.

IKR! We need to start smacking with rulers and paddles again. Make sure the kids know who's in charge. Who cares what the researchers say!

Guess what? I’m an expert in the cardiovascular system! (My credentials? I’ve stepped foot in hospitals and I have a cardiovascular system myself.) I’ll put together a video. I fully expect John’s Hopkins to round up all of their doctors and show it to them.

In all seriousness, school systems really need to be critical of the “research” they choose to follow. It’s time to listen to teachers, the ones who actually know what’s going on, and not the “researchers” shielded from reality.

Yes, just because facts and research prove something like smoking is bad for your health or that man evolved from primates doesn't mean we should accept it. I prefer to believe in magic@

You assume the woman in the video is presenting facts. Did you actually watch it?

I’m starting to believe there is one poster here who will believe anything presented as “facts” from an “expert.”

I’m more critical than that. Let’s start with credentials. I see this presenter has spent a ton of time at the university level, she’s written a book, and she makes money off the profits. All great. How much time, exactly, has she stood in front of a classroom? That’s what I can’t find in her bio. No experience actually doing the work? Then she’s not an expert, no matter how much she markets herself to be.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe I actually took 20 minutes out of my life to watch this train wreck. Holy Molu. Teachers I feel for you.

If I was expected to sit through an hour of perky “Carla” condescending to me like she does in this video, I swear I would get up and walk out of the room.

And no, sweetheart, the definition of “freedom” is not keeping people and their feelings “safe.”

Where in the hell do they find these people?

Here in Montgomery County!

No, she's on the faculty at U of Michigan
"Carla Shalaby's professional and personal commitment is to education as the practice of freedom, and her research centers on cultivating and documenting daily classroom work that protects the dignity of every child and honors young people’s rights to expression, to self-determination, and to full human being. Specifically, she is interested in practices of critical pedagogy and critical literacy at the elementary level; classroom community and "management" as the practice of democracy; and the relationships between the daily work of teachers and the ongoing struggle for justice. Carla previously served as director of the Elementary Master of Arts in Teaching program at Brown University, and as the director of elementary education at Wellesley College. She started her career as a teacher of grades four and five in her New Jersey hometown. Carla holds a B.A in English from Rutgers College, an M.Ed in Elementary Education from the Rutgers Graduate School of Education, and an M.A. and doctoral degree in Culture, Communities, and Education from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She is the author of Troublemakers: Lessons in Freedom from Young Children at School (New Press, 2017)."

https://marsal.umich.edu/directory/faculty-staff/carla-shalaby

So very, very little actual teaching experience. Got it.

I think this is an interesting think piece for teachers in k-2. It’s not very useful for middle and high school teachers. And also probably not very helpful for teachers who are basically drowning right now. It’s not the time to have an interesting philosophical discussion about development theory. Maybe this would work better targeted to k-2 teachers as a summer session PD, paired with discussion among the grace level team about what they can see working in their classroom. Translating PhD theory to in the ground tools is often challenging. The fact that anyone at McPS thought it was a good piece to mandate for all teachers on their own call PD day is troubling.

I once had an education professor tell me he had a better grasp of K-12 education than I did, even though I had 15 years of full-time teaching experience and he had none. None. Zero.

He told me I was too clouded by the classroom to see the real problems within education, something that he was apparently able to see quite clearly from behind a desk at a university.

That professor and the woman from page 1 of this thread have something in common: they aren’t teachers. They get to comfortably speak in theory, but those of us in practice have already moved beyond cute theories to actually having to do the work.

It’s insulting, really, when people who have little to no experience tell US what we should be doing. Trust me: teachers see right through this crap.

Did you keep an open mind, that your 15 years of experience might not be the be all and end all of education? Or were you as dismissive as you seem to be in your post?

I try to keep and open mind and learn new things that make me better in the classroom.

Now mind your spot.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Stuck in your ways.

I’m the PP with the obnoxious professor. I’m not the one who wrote “now mind your spot.”

Of course I kept an open mind, and then he spent the next month spewing nonsense about how easy teaching is and how teachers are just too lazy to do things correctly.

I wonder… did HE keep an open mind? Did HE consider that there was something a person with actual k-12 experience could teach him? No, he did not. He went so far as to tell me that. Mr. PhD had all the solutions and all the theory, but none of the practice. He dismissed those with the practice as unqualified, ironically.

So before you assume I’m just one more close-minded teacher, ask yourself why his opinion immediately seemed more valuable to you than mine.

YESSS +100! What an abusive response to your post. I have worked with so many PhDs that are so disconnected with reality. There is a difference between book smart and 'street smart'. We are in the trenches. Would you tell a soldier what to do in the middle of battle as an outsider sitting in a cushy office? How INSULTING. I'm so sick of the narrative that everything is OUR FAULT. GTFO. I have the absolute worst kids I have ever had this year - I transferred into a new school (to me). Apparently, this group of kids has been really tough to work with for the past two years. But apparently "I" - being new to the school and having to build brand new relationships - need to do better so the kids listen. I was going to quit last year but I really wanted to keep my benefits because my child was in treatment. I hate this profession right now. I took off tomorrow. My time is too valuable to be told I'm doing things wrong constantly.

Good for you! I’m glad you took tomorrow off. You’ll be better for it.

Education isn’t going to improve until people who actually teach are in charge. Nothing is going to get better if we keep listening to people with little to no teaching experience. It’s absurd.

IKR! We need to start smacking with rulers and paddles again. Make sure the kids know who's in charge. Who cares what the researchers say!

Guess what? I’m an expert in the cardiovascular system! (My credentials? I’ve stepped foot in hospitals and I have a cardiovascular system myself.) I’ll put together a video. I fully expect John’s Hopkins to round up all of their doctors and show it to them.

In all seriousness, school systems really need to be critical of the “research” they choose to follow. It’s time to listen to teachers, the ones who actually know what’s going on, and not the “researchers” shielded from reality.

Yes, just because facts and research prove something like smoking is bad for your health or that man evolved from primates doesn't mean we should accept it. I prefer to believe in magic@

There were no "facts" presented by this expert. There was a lot of wishful thinking, posturing and "woo" projected as inarguable fact with no real-world solutions presented other than changing langugage, which seems to be the first step in useless drivel like this. If you can't change the behavior, just start with changing what you call it or how you talk about it! Voila! Mission accomplished.

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Watching it in PD now. It's not going over well. Tough crowd.

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If it's hosted on YouTube, it gets ads. That's how the platform is financed.

No, it’s at the discretion of the video owner. The owner of this video CHOSE to put ads, to monetize their video. Completely jerk move.

Ads are at the discretion of YouTube, even if the uploader doesn't request ads. The video uploader can choose whether to ask for a share of any ad revenue.

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Imagine you are one of Biedleman;s victims when you get to the about 5:30

It's really nice that your work invests in your development. Most places don't and feel that's something you do on your own time.

I wish MCPS would invest in professional development instead of counterproductive propaganda.

Exactly! I need PD on how to best support the thrice exceptional children I’m assigned, none of whom are behavioral issues. However, I’m told to do that on my own time and instead PD is for this.

My quince exceptional kids are drowning.

Let's not even talk about the quintice exceptional kids. That's a lost cause.

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There's a game at my school where someone will ask for a rationale for a policy, and the admin will cite some research, and then the questioner will read where the cited research says to NOT use that policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Watching it in PD now. It's not going over well. Tough crowd.

As a parent and a former teacher, this gives me hope.