Military recruiting crisis.

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Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.


5) Stop making them feel unwelcome and unsupported in the first place. In other words, stop causing the problems we have in the first place, democrats.

You know... like accusing our soldiers of burning Korans in GITMO, working tirelessly to defund the police, blinding the police with lasers and trying to lock them in a police station and burn it down during the summer of 2020 peaceful riots. Or demanding the military get vax'd or be dishonorably discharged or call nurses heroes when it works for you during covid only to villainize them later on. You really are just full of yourselves and judgemental on the sidelines while believing you can throw more money at people to buy off your evil behavior.


Wow this rich coming from the people who genuflects to the man who said anyone who joins the military is a sucker. You are acting like republicans are honorable and respect those who serve. Man you are a loser.


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They adore the proud draft-dodger and insult the man with two boys who served - one of whom died due to his service. They’re either a bunch of trolls or awful, ignorant people.


Liberals never join and now conservatives are done with it.

The elite war planners need to lead the way with their children volunteering in combat units. That would be patriotic.


Liberals do join. Two of the top 3 states contributing the most soldiers to the military are blue states: California and New York. Also, before you try and say "yabut it's just the red parts of those states" a huge number of active duty military contributed to the Clinton and Biden campaigns.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.


5) Stop making them feel unwelcome and unsupported in the first place. In other words, stop causing the problems we have in the first place, democrats.

You know... like accusing our soldiers of burning Korans in GITMO, working tirelessly to defund the police, blinding the police with lasers and trying to lock them in a police station and burn it down during the summer of 2020 peaceful riots. Or demanding the military get vax'd or be dishonorably discharged or call nurses heroes when it works for you during covid only to villainize them later on. You really are just full of yourselves and judgemental on the sidelines while believing you can throw more money at people to buy off your evil behavior.


Wow this rich coming from the people who genuflects to the man who said anyone who joins the military is a sucker. You are acting like republicans are honorable and respect those who serve. Man you are a loser.


+1
They adore the proud draft-dodger and insult the man with two boys who served - one of whom died due to his service. They’re either a bunch of trolls or awful, ignorant people.


Liberals never join and now conservatives are done with it.

The elite war planners need to lead the way with their children volunteering in combat units. That would be patriotic.


There are lots of liberals in the military. Our current president has two sons who served, since you’re looking for higher ups with kids who served- seems like you’d notice. But Fox doesn’t talk about that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.



Agree. I think this younger generation watched older generations’ hard work and loyalty get repaid with layoffs and furloughs when times were tough but executive pay increase exponentially.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.


5) Stop making them feel unwelcome and unsupported in the first place. In other words, stop causing the problems we have in the first place, democrats.

You know... like accusing our soldiers of burning Korans in GITMO, working tirelessly to defund the police, blinding the police with lasers and trying to lock them in a police station and burn it down during the summer of 2020 peaceful riots. Or demanding the military get vax'd or be dishonorably discharged or call nurses heroes when it works for you during covid only to villainize them later on. You really are just full of yourselves and judgemental on the sidelines while believing you can throw more money at people to buy off your evil behavior.


Wow this rich coming from the people who genuflects to the man who said anyone who joins the military is a sucker. You are acting like republicans are honorable and respect those who serve. Man you are a loser.


+1
They adore the proud draft-dodger and insult the man with two boys who served - one of whom died due to his service. They’re either a bunch of trolls or awful, ignorant people.


Liberals never join and now conservatives are done with it.

The elite war planners need to lead the way with their children volunteering in combat units. That would be patriotic.


People just make this stuff up in their own heads. There is actual data which is not hard to find.

Biden won the military vote. It shouldn’t be that shocking since the demographics are young and diverse, traditional democrat strengths.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.


4 all the way!

We need a national service requirement for young people between 18-21. Let them choose military or civilian service. Offer some program to tackle climate change preparedness issues and the like. Defer for college if you want but then immediately serve after undergrad. That would give me hope for the future.


I think we should do this as well. We are raising generations of kids who lack work ethic, who have no sense of being part of anything, who don't understand how anything works, or where anything comes from. And that's where a lot of our problems come from. I think serving the country in some form would do a lot to improve this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.


4 all the way!

We need a national service requirement for young people between 18-21. Let them choose military or civilian service. Offer some program to tackle climate change preparedness issues and the like. Defer for college if you want but then immediately serve after undergrad. That would give me hope for the future.


I think we should do this as well. We are raising generations of kids who lack work ethic, who have no sense of being part of anything, who don't understand how anything works, or where anything comes from. And that's where a lot of our problems come from. I think serving the country in some form would do a lot to improve this.


I'm a vet and I'm opposed to this. The military is our defense organization-- it is burdened enough with that task, without also babysitting 18-21 year olds who are out of shape and lack motivation. Just no. And the reason our youth are like this is due to our culture, so start there if you want to fix that problem.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.


4 all the way!

We need a national service requirement for young people between 18-21. Let them choose military or civilian service. Offer some program to tackle climate change preparedness issues and the like. Defer for college if you want but then immediately serve after undergrad. That would give me hope for the future.


I think we should do this as well. We are raising generations of kids who lack work ethic, who have no sense of being part of anything, who don't understand how anything works, or where anything comes from. And that's where a lot of our problems come from. I think serving the country in some form would do a lot to improve this.


I'm a vet and I'm opposed to this. The military is our defense organization-- it is burdened enough with that task, without also babysitting 18-21 year olds who are out of shape and lack motivation. Just no. And the reason our youth are like this is due to our culture, so start there if you want to fix that problem.


Every soldier once started out as an 18-21 year old who was out of shape and lacking motivation, needing babysitting and training.

But that said, go back and check what was actually posted, it wasn't about putting them all in the military, it also included things like having them serve in medical corps, teaching, and other roles as well. Many 18-21 year olds have health issues that would preclude them from going into the military, but would not exclude them from other types of things. And, not all kids want to join the military, but would be willing to do other things for their country. An expanded ASVAB type of process could help determine what kinds of things would be a good fit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.


4 all the way!

We need a national service requirement for young people between 18-21. Let them choose military or civilian service. Offer some program to tackle climate change preparedness issues and the like. Defer for college if you want but then immediately serve after undergrad. That would give me hope for the future.


I think we should do this as well. We are raising generations of kids who lack work ethic, who have no sense of being part of anything, who don't understand how anything works, or where anything comes from. And that's where a lot of our problems come from. I think serving the country in some form would do a lot to improve this.


I'm a vet and I'm opposed to this. The military is our defense organization-- it is burdened enough with that task, without also babysitting 18-21 year olds who are out of shape and lack motivation. Just no. And the reason our youth are like this is due to our culture, so start there if you want to fix that problem.


I'm reminded of my stepdad, who served 21 years in the Army, he started out as a kid who was on a bad path and with few good opportunities, and ultimately it was either going to go to jail or go into the army and get straightened out. He ended up a Sergeant First Class, and at points in his military career, he was the guy straightening out the 18-21 year olds as, among other tours and assignments, he on several occasions served as a drill instructor (marksmanship training etc). And to this day he regularly gets letters, cards and phone calls from the guys (now grown men) who he helped straighten out. Your comment, on the other hand, is just a disappointment. I have a lot more respect for my stepdad than I do for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.


4 all the way!

We need a national service requirement for young people between 18-21. Let them choose military or civilian service. Offer some program to tackle climate change preparedness issues and the like. Defer for college if you want but then immediately serve after undergrad. That would give me hope for the future.


I think we should do this as well. We are raising generations of kids who lack work ethic, who have no sense of being part of anything, who don't understand how anything works, or where anything comes from. And that's where a lot of our problems come from. I think serving the country in some form would do a lot to improve this.


I'm a vet and I'm opposed to this. The military is our defense organization-- it is burdened enough with that task, without also babysitting 18-21 year olds who are out of shape and lack motivation. Just no. And the reason our youth are like this is due to our culture, so start there if you want to fix that problem.


The military is burdened with defense? We have oceans between our borders and any hostile nation and the most massive and best equipped military in the world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also have a critical shortage of police officers, teachers and medical professionals. The current youth is really interested in work life balance and putting their own mask on first—they just are not looking to these careers that require a lot of self sacrifice. The only answers I see are—
1) significantly raise pay
2) offer citizenship in a change for X years of service
3) increase free student loans/tuition programs
4) institute national mandatory service which could be military, teaching, police, medical, or civilian conservation corp. pick one and give the country at least 2 years of it.


4 all the way!

We need a national service requirement for young people between 18-21. Let them choose military or civilian service. Offer some program to tackle climate change preparedness issues and the like. Defer for college if you want but then immediately serve after undergrad. That would give me hope for the future.


I think we should do this as well. We are raising generations of kids who lack work ethic, who have no sense of being part of anything, who don't understand how anything works, or where anything comes from. And that's where a lot of our problems come from. I think serving the country in some form would do a lot to improve this.


I'm a vet and I'm opposed to this. The military is our defense organization-- it is burdened enough with that task, without also babysitting 18-21 year olds who are out of shape and lack motivation. Just no. And the reason our youth are like this is due to our culture, so start there if you want to fix that problem.


Every soldier once started out as an 18-21 year old who was out of shape and lacking motivation, needing babysitting and training.

But that said, go back and check what was actually posted, it wasn't about putting them all in the military, it also included things like having them serve in medical corps, teaching, and other roles as well. Many 18-21 year olds have health issues that would preclude them from going into the military, but would not exclude them from other types of things. And, not all kids want to join the military, but would be willing to do other things for their country. An expanded ASVAB type of process could help determine what kinds of things would be a good fit.


I would love for this to work, but I think we are too divided politically to even agree on the types of projects/service that would be acceptable.
Anonymous
Why would anyone join the military when you can buy a semi-automatic weapon and some camo and pretend you're in Nam? What's more, you can actually shoot real bullets at your fellow Americans. What's not to like?
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Strange bump up....and there's no way that top photo was the 70s. 40's or maybe 50's.
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Strange bump up....and there's no way that top photo was the 70s. 40's or maybe 50's.


You forgot to do the inclusive diversity thing.
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Strange bump up....and there's no way that top photo was the 70s. 40's or maybe 50's.


You forgot to do the inclusive diversity thing.


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I'm not sure what you mean by that. My comment was based on the bathing suit style and hair styles. Those are not what people were wearing in the 70s.
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