The state of MCPS is atrocious

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a rumor at Magruder that one of the people involved in the shooting/homicide at Wheaton metro is a Magruder student.

If SROs were in the schools in a manner that allowed them to do the relationship building and the violence prevention work, perhaps they would have heard more iabout this. Perhaps they could have even worked with kids to help prevent violence like this.

Interesting. I had not heard this(staff member there. That could help explain why there is a cop standing at the front entrance every day for the last two weeks. In my experience this is the time of year where more difficult students stop coming to school regularly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a rumor at Magruder that one of the people involved in the shooting/homicide at Wheaton metro is a Magruder student.

If SROs were in the schools in a manner that allowed them to do the relationship building and the violence prevention work, perhaps they would have heard more about this. Perhaps they could have even worked with kids to help prevent violence like this.

Agreed. They really should have thought about this. Really hard. MCPS and the county council is essentially holding all of us hostage to individuals who are now taking advantage of lax (or some will say no enforcement) of laws. They gaslight you if you try to inform them of growing issues and ignore them until it becomes a crisis. Why didn’t they come up with a plan!? Did they think automatically removing SROs there would magically be no crime? We are in a crisis right now in this county and it will only get worse. Being on the (political) extreme for either side benefits no one. I personally will be putting pressure on city council to address this and come up with an effective plan instead of letting things get out of control. Eventually if you let them keep it up, their goal of keeping youth out of the prison will work….because they will finally do something once they turn 18 that will put them away forever. Short-sighted thinking got us into this mess. It takes hard work, innovative programming, money!! , and educated, dedicated individuals to turn around societal injustices (such as addressing causes for youth and minorities imprisoned at a higher rate). I don’t see any alternative plans - in school and after school programming paid for and sponsored by the county to help youth who may need help or mentoring with direction towards a successful future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a rumor at Magruder that one of the people involved in the shooting/homicide at Wheaton metro is a Magruder student.

If SROs were in the schools in a manner that allowed them to do the relationship building and the violence prevention work, perhaps they would have heard more about this. Perhaps they could have even worked with kids to help prevent violence like this.

Agreed. They really should have thought about this. Really hard. MCPS and the county council is essentially holding all of us hostage to individuals who are now taking advantage of lax (or some will say no enforcement) of laws. They gaslight you if you try to inform them of growing issues and ignore them until it becomes a crisis. Why didn’t they come up with a plan!? Did they think automatically removing SROs there would magically be no crime? We are in a crisis right now in this county and it will only get worse. Being on the (political) extreme for either side benefits no one. I personally will be putting pressure on city council to address this and come up with an effective plan instead of letting things get out of control. Eventually if you let them keep it up, their goal of keeping youth out of the prison will work….because they will finally do something once they turn 18 that will put them away forever. Short-sighted thinking got us into this mess. It takes hard work, innovative programming, money!! , and educated, dedicated individuals to turn around societal injustices (such as addressing causes for youth and minorities imprisoned at a higher rate). I don’t see any alternative plans - in school and after school programming paid for and sponsored by the county to help youth who may need help or mentoring with direction towards a successful future.

+1 you know what doesn't help any of this.. changing the name of the school. Stupid waste of time and money.

[Anonymous]

I barely passed HS and barely did work but that degree got me into college, which I again barely passes got me into grad school which once again barely passed.

A degree is a degree. I have same big office as folks with higher GPAs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a rumor at Magruder that one of the people involved in the shooting/homicide at Wheaton metro is a Magruder student.

If SROs were in the schools in a manner that allowed them to do the relationship building and the violence prevention work, perhaps they would have heard more about this. Perhaps they could have even worked with kids to help prevent violence like this.

Agreed. They really should have thought about this. Really hard. MCPS and the county council is essentially holding all of us hostage to individuals who are now taking advantage of lax (or some will say no enforcement) of laws. They gaslight you if you try to inform them of growing issues and ignore them until it becomes a crisis. Why didn’t they come up with a plan!? Did they think automatically removing SROs there would magically be no crime? We are in a crisis right now in this county and it will only get worse. Being on the (political) extreme for either side benefits no one. I personally will be putting pressure on city council to address this and come up with an effective plan instead of letting things get out of control. Eventually if you let them keep it up, their goal of keeping youth out of the prison will work….because they will finally do something once they turn 18 that will put them away forever. Short-sighted thinking got us into this mess. It takes hard work, innovative programming, money!! , and educated, dedicated individuals to turn around societal injustices (such as addressing causes for youth and minorities imprisoned at a higher rate). I don’t see any alternative plans - in school and after school programming paid for and sponsored by the county to help youth who may need help or mentoring with direction towards a successful future.

If wishes were pennies... SROs aren't in school and MCPD still has an obligation to do its job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a rumor at Magruder that one of the people involved in the shooting/homicide at Wheaton metro is a Magruder student.

If SROs were in the schools in a manner that allowed them to do the relationship building and the violence prevention work, perhaps they would have heard more about this. Perhaps they could have even worked with kids to help prevent violence like this.

Agreed. They really should have thought about this. Really hard. MCPS and the county council is essentially holding all of us hostage to individuals who are now taking advantage of lax (or some will say no enforcement) of laws. They gaslight you if you try to inform them of growing issues and ignore them until it becomes a crisis. Why didn’t they come up with a plan!? Did they think automatically removing SROs there would magically be no crime? We are in a crisis right now in this county and it will only get worse. Being on the (political) extreme for either side benefits no one. I personally will be putting pressure on city council to address this and come up with an effective plan instead of letting things get out of control. Eventually if you let them keep it up, their goal of keeping youth out of the prison will work….because they will finally do something once they turn 18 that will put them away forever. Short-sighted thinking got us into this mess. It takes hard work, innovative programming, money!! , and educated, dedicated individuals to turn around societal injustices (such as addressing causes for youth and minorities imprisoned at a higher rate). I don’t see any alternative plans - in school and after school programming paid for and sponsored by the county to help youth who may need help or mentoring with direction towards a successful future.

If wishes were pennies... SROs aren't in school and MCPD still has an obligation to do its job.

Please pay attention. The state of Maryland passed Senate Bill 691. Their hands are tied in many cases now. So STOP being lazy people and learn what your legislators are up to. Because if you don't this is what happens.

https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/SB0691?ys=2022RS

https://foxbaltimore.com/newsletter-daily/12-year-old-brought-a-gun-to-school-macarthur-middle-school-no-legal-consequences-juvenile-justice-reform-house-bill-459-anne-arundel-county-police-handgun-magazine-ammunition-maryland-crime-laws#:~:text=The%20Anne%20Arundel%20County%20Police,handgun%20and%20ammunition%20to%20school.

https://frizwoods.com/blog/juvenile-law-update-maryland

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a rumor at Magruder that one of the people involved in the shooting/homicide at Wheaton metro is a Magruder student.

If SROs were in the schools in a manner that allowed them to do the relationship building and the violence prevention work, perhaps they would have heard more about this. Perhaps they could have even worked with kids to help prevent violence like this.

Agreed. They really should have thought about this. Really hard. MCPS and the county council is essentially holding all of us hostage to individuals who are now taking advantage of lax (or some will say no enforcement) of laws. They gaslight you if you try to inform them of growing issues and ignore them until it becomes a crisis. Why didn’t they come up with a plan!? Did they think automatically removing SROs there would magically be no crime? We are in a crisis right now in this county and it will only get worse. Being on the (political) extreme for either side benefits no one. I personally will be putting pressure on city council to address this and come up with an effective plan instead of letting things get out of control. Eventually if you let them keep it up, their goal of keeping youth out of the prison will work….because they will finally do something once they turn 18 that will put them away forever. Short-sighted thinking got us into this mess. It takes hard work, innovative programming, money!! , and educated, dedicated individuals to turn around societal injustices (such as addressing causes for youth and minorities imprisoned at a higher rate). I don’t see any alternative plans - in school and after school programming paid for and sponsored by the county to help youth who may need help or mentoring with direction towards a successful future.

If wishes were pennies... SROs aren't in school and MCPD still has an obligation to do its job.

This is how we know you are trolling.

SROs are MCPD. You simultaneously said the police should AND should not be in schools.

It’s time for you to give up. Your argument is silly and it serves no purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a rumor at Magruder that one of the people involved in the shooting/homicide at Wheaton metro is a Magruder student.

If SROs were in the schools in a manner that allowed them to do the relationship building and the violence prevention work, perhaps they would have heard more about this. Perhaps they could have even worked with kids to help prevent violence like this.

Agreed. They really should have thought about this. Really hard. MCPS and the county council is essentially holding all of us hostage to individuals who are now taking advantage of lax (or some will say no enforcement) of laws. They gaslight you if you try to inform them of growing issues and ignore them until it becomes a crisis. Why didn’t they come up with a plan!? Did they think automatically removing SROs there would magically be no crime? We are in a crisis right now in this county and it will only get worse. Being on the (political) extreme for either side benefits no one. I personally will be putting pressure on city council to address this and come up with an effective plan instead of letting things get out of control. Eventually if you let them keep it up, their goal of keeping youth out of the prison will work….because they will finally do something once they turn 18 that will put them away forever. Short-sighted thinking got us into this mess. It takes hard work, innovative programming, money!! , and educated, dedicated individuals to turn around societal injustices (such as addressing causes for youth and minorities imprisoned at a higher rate). I don’t see any alternative plans - in school and after school programming paid for and sponsored by the county to help youth who may need help or mentoring with direction towards a successful future.

If wishes were pennies... SROs aren't in school and MCPD still has an obligation to do its job.

This is how we know you are trolling.

SROs are MCPD. You simultaneously said the police should AND should not be in schools.

It’s time for you to give up. Your argument is silly and it serves no purpose.

+1 Please contribute something constructive to this conversation - it's painfully obvious you are either not paying attention, have trouble with reading comprehension, or are just being a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Covid is responsible for some of the most recent particularly egregious behavior problems. Kids sat at home on screens for a long time and got (even more) addicted to technology and didn’t have the consistency of school/rules/expectations.

I don’t want to turn this into a union or parent or teacher bashing thread, I just wanted to point out that I believe recent horribleness can be tied to the large scale interruption of learning for public school kids.

At the high school level, I think the legalization of weed (and the narrative of adults saying they use weed to help with their own adhd, and the general normalizing of weed use across the board) is driving the growth in the number of students who come to school high every day, or get high in the bathrooms in the day.

Covid + weed legalization + screen addiction = the present sorry state of many MCPS high school students

(Still think MCPS is doing generally ok, still send my kids there, and still think a churchhill-like attitude is right… it’s better than the alternative!)

I think parents like you find all kinds of ways to rationalize this when it's a combination of the parents and kids. Weed is legal in the state but not the federal level and you need a prescription for it. Parents like you re 100% the problem.

So you DO want to make this into parent bashing. Got it. I don’t. Again, I think it’s a lot of things- an unholy mix of Covid + screen addiction + legalization of weed. At least one teacher above agreed with me…

Another Mcps educator who completely agrees

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Covid is responsible for some of the most recent particularly egregious behavior problems. Kids sat at home on screens for a long time and got (even more) addicted to technology and didn’t have the consistency of school/rules/expectations.

I don’t want to turn this into a union or parent or teacher bashing thread, I just wanted to point out that I believe recent horribleness can be tied to the large scale interruption of learning for public school kids.

At the high school level, I think the legalization of weed (and the narrative of adults saying they use weed to help with their own adhd, and the general normalizing of weed use across the board) is driving the growth in the number of students who come to school high every day, or get high in the bathrooms in the day.

Covid + weed legalization + screen addiction = the present sorry state of many MCPS high school students

(Still think MCPS is doing generally ok, still send my kids there, and still think a churchhill-like attitude is right… it’s better than the alternative!)

I think parents like you find all kinds of ways to rationalize this when it's a combination of the parents and kids. Weed is legal in the state but not the federal level and you need a prescription for it. Parents like you re 100% the problem.

So you DO want to make this into parent bashing. Got it. I don’t. Again, I think it’s a lot of things- an unholy mix of Covid + screen addiction + legalization of weed. At least one teacher above agreed with me…

Another Mcps educator who completely agrees

Again, parents and teachers are allowing this behavior. It’s not screen addiction. Kids are bored, so they turn to screens. Older teens don’t drive and it’s easier to chat online than meet up. Parents aren’t monitoring and supporting their kids and don’t give consequences for bad behavior. Parents allow weed in their homes. Weed had always been here. It’s not nothing new. None of this is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Education was a huge priority for them...

There you go. Back then having kids who did their homework was sufficient to give them an excellent education. That's no longer the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I called four parents today and three of those numbers were out of service.

Last month was me of my students hit her head at recess. An admin took her to the ER and nobody could get in touch with her parents. Her mom showed up at dismissal pissed that we had called her all afternoon. She was trying to sleep. When we told her that her daughter was still in the ER, she became enraged.

Lack of parenting is my biggest issue because it really impacts everything. Kids don’t recognize limits because they have none at home. Makes it easy for parents since they are on devices all day and night.

That mother should be charged with child neglect and referred to CPS. As mandatory reporters, isn't that your duty?

Neglect? Lol. It’s very hard to get CPS to prosecute actual neglect. Not being reachable describes probably 1/4 of the parents in the school.

Mandatory reporter, not mandatory make-CPS-prosecute-ers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Covid is responsible for some of the most recent particularly egregious behavior problems. Kids sat at home on screens for a long time and got (even more) addicted to technology and didn’t have the consistency of school/rules/expectations.

I don’t want to turn this into a union or parent or teacher bashing thread, I just wanted to point out that I believe recent horribleness can be tied to the large scale interruption of learning for public school kids.

At the high school level, I think the legalization of weed (and the narrative of adults saying they use weed to help with their own adhd, and the general normalizing of weed use across the board) is driving the growth in the number of students who come to school high every day, or get high in the bathrooms in the day.

Covid + weed legalization + screen addiction = the present sorry state of many MCPS high school students

(Still think MCPS is doing generally ok, still send my kids there, and still think a churchhill-like attitude is right… it’s better than the alternative!)

I think parents like you find all kinds of ways to rationalize this when it's a combination of the parents and kids. Weed is legal in the state but not the federal level and you need a prescription for it. Parents like you re 100% the problem.

So you DO want to make this into parent bashing. Got it. I don’t. Again, I think it’s a lot of things- an unholy mix of Covid + screen addiction + legalization of weed. At least one teacher above agreed with me…

Another Mcps educator who completely agrees

Again, parents and teachers are allowing this behavior. It’s not screen addiction. Kids are bored, so they turn to screens. Older teens don’t drive and it’s easier to chat online than meet up. Parents aren’t monitoring and supporting their kids and don’t give consequences for bad behavior. Parents allow weed in their homes. Weed had always been here. It’s not nothing new. None of this is.

Teachers !!!!??? GTFO. I was pushed to the ground for touching an unattended cell phone. And yes! Admin and MCPD were informed. I called them my damn self. They did nothing. Nothing. I now have a lawyer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Education was a huge priority for them...

There you go. Back then having kids who did their homework was sufficient to give them an excellent education. That's no longer the case.

And, kids had consequences for not behaving in school, or doing the work. If your kid does not show up, put the effort in, etc and you don’t care that is a parent issue. Mcps is lacking in education with the newer teaching style that does not work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a rumor at Magruder that one of the people involved in the shooting/homicide at Wheaton metro is a Magruder student.

If SROs were in the schools in a manner that allowed them to do the relationship building and the violence prevention work, perhaps they would have heard more about this. Perhaps they could have even worked with kids to help prevent violence like this.

Agreed. They really should have thought about this. Really hard. MCPS and the county council is essentially holding all of us hostage to individuals who are now taking advantage of lax (or some will say no enforcement) of laws. They gaslight you if you try to inform them of growing issues and ignore them until it becomes a crisis. Why didn’t they come up with a plan!? Did they think automatically removing SROs there would magically be no crime? We are in a crisis right now in this county and it will only get worse. Being on the (political) extreme for either side benefits no one. I personally will be putting pressure on city council to address this and come up with an effective plan instead of letting things get out of control. Eventually if you let them keep it up, their goal of keeping youth out of the prison will work….because they will finally do something once they turn 18 that will put them away forever. Short-sighted thinking got us into this mess. It takes hard work, innovative programming, money!! , and educated, dedicated individuals to turn around societal injustices (such as addressing causes for youth and minorities imprisoned at a higher rate). I don’t see any alternative plans - in school and after school programming paid for and sponsored by the county to help youth who may need help or mentoring with direction towards a successful future.

If wishes were pennies... SROs aren't in school and MCPD still has an obligation to do its job.

Please pay attention. The state of Maryland passed Senate Bill 691. Their hands are tied in many cases now. So STOP being lazy people and learn what your legislators are up to. Because if you don't this is what happens.

https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/SB0691?ys=2022RS

https://foxbaltimore.com/newsletter-daily/12-year-old-brought-a-gun-to-school-macarthur-middle-school-no-legal-consequences-juvenile-justice-reform-house-bill-459-anne-arundel-county-police-handgun-magazine-ammunition-maryland-crime-laws#:~:text=The%20Anne%20Arundel%20County%20Police,handgun%20and%20ammunition%20to%20school.

https://frizwoods.com/blog/juvenile-law-update-maryland

Oh my! Thank you for posting this. So ridiculous. This is NOT helpful in getting accountability back into schools.