The state of MCPS is atrocious

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

Actually, MCPS middle schools and high schools HAVE become ideal places to deal drugs. Kids are distributing at schools.

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Crazy talk my a**

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

No. Police have a MOU with MCPS and their authority is restricted.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

Actually, MCPS middle schools and high schools HAVE become ideal places to deal drugs. Kids are distributing at schools.

Everyone knows this apparently except MCPD which turns a blind eye to crime in schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

No. Police have a MOU with MCPS and their authority is restricted.

LOL stop making these lame excuses. It's their job.

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Insight from a teacher:

Recently graduated from college and got hired at my first teaching job this year. Work at a high school, internship was at an MCPS middle school. Here are some of the issues as I see them as a first year:

Lack of consequences. You can only get suspended for drugs or fighting or some sort of physical threat. Even then, kids that harass teachers don’t really get sh*t done as a consequence.

You can skip class every single day and still pass. There are no consequences for skipping class. Kids roam the halls for 7 hours a day and we do not have enough security to stalk them into going to class and there’s really no consequences.

You get 50% for work you don’t do. In high school. The only way you can get a 0 is if parents have been told and acknowledged deadlines, specifically okay a zero, or the kid cheated. You can choose to do 3 assignments per quarter and pass with a 60% despite not knowing the content.

We cannot confiscate or require students to put their cellphones in a designated place. Being the cellphone police is exhausting since there’s really f**k all we can do.

Student attitude. I’m only a first year but even then, the shit I see… Kids will just walk out of the room if they don’t like a rule, tell you to go f**k yourself. Got called an a**hole over a seating chart because I had to move a kid away from his friends because they wouldn’t shut up. Got told to f**k off by another kid. Kid told me i’m a heartless b***h when I gave them a 0 for plagiarism. Different kid told me to give them a 0 on an assignment they refused to make up because they didn’t wanna talk to me anymore. List goes on.

Lack of parent involvement. I make it VERY easy for parents to be involved in their kid’s education experience. Regardless of if you have Synergy or Canvas as a parent, I will text out assignment deadlines, grade check ins, and reminders on a biweekly basis so parents know when their kids have assignments due. You’ll never guess how many parents don’t acknowledge them and act surprised when their kid is failing.

Parents not parenting. I have some parents of problematic kids that are very responsible, apologetic, and communicative. I get told by them that they’ve never had a teacher spend so much time telling them about their child’s performance and behavior and they appreciate the enlightenment. For every 1 involved parent, I have 9 that are completely blase and don’t even bother responding to messages OR don’t send their damn kid to school.

I see no lies told. These are the things that teachers and parents would like MCPS to address, but they won't.

And yet if an involved parent has any question about assignment, expectations or grade, teachers are rude and degrading.

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Anonymous wrote:

Insight from a teacher:

Recently graduated from college and got hired at my first teaching job this year. Work at a high school, internship was at an MCPS middle school. Here are some of the issues as I see them as a first year:

Lack of consequences. You can only get suspended for drugs or fighting or some sort of physical threat. Even then, kids that harass teachers don’t really get sh*t done as a consequence.

You can skip class every single day and still pass. There are no consequences for skipping class. Kids roam the halls for 7 hours a day and we do not have enough security to stalk them into going to class and there’s really no consequences.

You get 50% for work you don’t do. In high school. The only way you can get a 0 is if parents have been told and acknowledged deadlines, specifically okay a zero, or the kid cheated. You can choose to do 3 assignments per quarter and pass with a 60% despite not knowing the content.

We cannot confiscate or require students to put their cellphones in a designated place. Being the cellphone police is exhausting since there’s really f**k all we can do.

Student attitude. I’m only a first year but even then, the shit I see… Kids will just walk out of the room if they don’t like a rule, tell you to go f**k yourself. Got called an a**hole over a seating chart because I had to move a kid away from his friends because they wouldn’t shut up. Got told to f**k off by another kid. Kid told me i’m a heartless b***h when I gave them a 0 for plagiarism. Different kid told me to give them a 0 on an assignment they refused to make up because they didn’t wanna talk to me anymore. List goes on.

Lack of parent involvement. I make it VERY easy for parents to be involved in their kid’s education experience. Regardless of if you have Synergy or Canvas as a parent, I will text out assignment deadlines, grade check ins, and reminders on a biweekly basis so parents know when their kids have assignments due. You’ll never guess how many parents don’t acknowledge them and act surprised when their kid is failing.

Parents not parenting. I have some parents of problematic kids that are very responsible, apologetic, and communicative. I get told by them that they’ve never had a teacher spend so much time telling them about their child’s performance and behavior and they appreciate the enlightenment. For every 1 involved parent, I have 9 that are completely blase and don’t even bother responding to messages OR don’t send their damn kid to school.

I see no lies told. These are the things that teachers and parents would like MCPS to address, but they won't.

And yet if an involved parent has any question about assignment, expectations or grade, teachers are rude and degrading.

I've been an MCPS parent for 15 years, and that has never been my experience.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

No. Police have a MOU with MCPS and their authority is restricted.

LOL stop making these lame excuses. It's their job.

Yes, it sounds like the OP should've said the state of MCPD is atrocious since this is largely about their neglect of schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

No. Police have a MOU with MCPS and their authority is restricted.

LOL stop making these lame excuses. It's their job.

It’s not an excuse. Their authority is limited by the scope of their contract. Basically, they are worthless right now. Kids know that. I have personal experience dealing with the officer at DHS. He’s worthless. What makes it worse - he doesn’t care that he’s worthless! Kids are dealing all over the place, assaulting community members, stealing from local stores - and all we get is ….nothing I can do about it. F you. I blame him AND admin. It’s seriously bad in some of our schools now. We have weak cowardly leaders that need to be removed from their positions.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Covid is responsible for some of the most recent particularly egregious behavior problems. Kids sat at home on screens for a long time and got (even more) addicted to technology and didn’t have the consistency of school/rules/expectations.

I don’t want to turn this into a union or parent or teacher bashing thread, I just wanted to point out that I believe recent horribleness can be tied to the large scale interruption of learning for public school kids.

At the high school level, I think the legalization of weed (and the narrative of adults saying they use weed to help with their own adhd, and the general normalizing of weed use across the board) is driving the growth in the number of students who come to school high every day, or get high in the bathrooms in the day.

Covid + weed legalization + screen addiction = the present sorry state of many MCPS high school students

(Still think MCPS is doing generally ok, still send my kids there, and still think a churchhill-like attitude is right… it’s better than the alternative!)

I think parents like you find all kinds of ways to rationalize this when it's a combination of the parents and kids. Weed is legal in the state but not the federal level and you need a prescription for it. Parents like you re 100% the problem.

So you DO want to make this into parent bashing. Got it. I don’t. Again, I think it’s a lot of things- an unholy mix of Covid + screen addiction + legalization of weed. At least one teacher above agreed with me…

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

Actually, MCPS middle schools and high schools HAVE become ideal places to deal drugs. Kids are distributing at schools.

Everyone knows this apparently except MCPD which turns a blind eye to crime in schools.

everyone knows that you're an idiot, except apparently, you.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

Actually, MCPS middle schools and high schools HAVE become ideal places to deal drugs. Kids are distributing at schools.

Everyone knows this apparently except MCPD which turns a blind eye to crime in schools.

everyone knows that you're an idiot, except apparently, you.

I don't blame MCPD. They are understaffed and were told they were unwanted in the schools. MCPS needs to undo that damage and get mcpd back in the schools addressing problems that admin will get reprimanded by central (tacitly or not
so tacitly) for addressing. What would happen if parents called mcpd about a crime in the school?

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

Actually, MCPS middle schools and high schools HAVE become ideal places to deal drugs. Kids are distributing at schools.

Everyone knows this apparently except MCPD which turns a blind eye to crime in schools.

everyone knows that you're an idiot, except apparently, you.

I don't blame MCPD. They are understaffed and were told they were unwanted in the schools. MCPS needs to undo that damage and get mcpd back in the schools addressing problems that admin will get reprimanded by central (tacitly or not
so tacitly) for addressing. What would happen if parents called mcpd about a crime in the school?

The admin can not allow in the cops. They have jurisdiction over the school building, not MCPD. The only way cops could enter without admin consent is if there was an active shooter on the premises.

I don't know if the "it's the MCPD's fault" is a troll or just a complete idiot, or both.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

MCPS will not go into the school without MCPS asking them to come in. MCPS administrators are the ones not reporting therefore the police will not come.

If that were true, it would be an ideal place to deal drugs. Regardless, MCPD has a responsibility to enforce the law in ALL of Montgomery County not just in places that are convenient for them.

Actually, MCPS middle schools and high schools HAVE become ideal places to deal drugs. Kids are distributing at schools.

Everyone knows this apparently except MCPD which turns a blind eye to crime in schools.

everyone knows that you're an idiot, except apparently, you.

I don't blame MCPD. They are understaffed and were told they were unwanted in the schools. MCPS needs to undo that damage and get mcpd back in the schools addressing problems that admin will get reprimanded by central (tacitly or not
so tacitly) for addressing. What would happen if parents called mcpd about a crime in the school?

Agree with this. Our local politicians have been loud and vocal about removing SROs from our schools.

Parents should definitely call MCPD about a crime in school! MCPS will err on the side of NOT involving the police because it reflects poorly on the school and the school’s stats.

If your child is the victim of a crime, call the police as soon as possible and make a report.

Remember the Damascus rape case and the Rockville sex case? Admin very actively tried to not involve the police at first.

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There is a rumor at Magruder that one of the people involved in the shooting/homicide at Wheaton metro is a Magruder student.

If SROs were in the schools in a manner that allowed them to do the relationship building and the violence prevention work, perhaps they would have heard more about this. Perhaps they could have even worked with kids to help prevent violence like this.