Covid vax mandates over for Fed employees; time for all colleges to end them as well

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You have no control over whether your non-minor child gets vaccinated

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Unfortunately we are starting to see the deaths of faculty who have had covd multiple times, likely having contracted itbfrom.students in large lecture halls etc. I also have several colleagues who are either ill.or cognitively impaired and retiring early. It's not really fair to keep.exposing teachers and faculty to multiple.rounds of covid either

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately we are starting to see the deaths of faculty who have had covd multiple times, likely having contracted itbfrom.students in large lecture halls etc. I also have several colleagues who are either ill.or cognitively impaired and retiring early. It's not really fair to keep.exposing teachers and faculty to multiple.rounds of covid either

But some schools are not requiring faculty and staff to get the bivalent even as they require it for students. The Europeans focus efforts on vaccinating the vulnerable. Even here, the latest FDA recommendation is for the vulnerable to receive a booster. So why do some colleges require the bivalent for the healthy and leave it optional for the vulnerable?

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately we are starting to see the deaths of faculty who have had covd multiple times, likely having contracted itbfrom.students in large lecture halls etc. I also have several colleagues who are either ill.or cognitively impaired and retiring early. It's not really fair to keep.exposing teachers and faculty to multiple.rounds of covid either

There is no convincing evidence that Covid would circulate any less whether or not vaccines are mandates. You cannot impose this on young adults based on speculation it may benefit older teachers who themselves can get boosted as much as they want.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately we are starting to see the deaths of faculty who have had covd multiple times, likely having contracted itbfrom.students in large lecture halls etc. I also have several colleagues who are either ill.or cognitively impaired and retiring early. It's not really fair to keep.exposing teachers and faculty to multiple.rounds of covid either

Vaccines and boosters won't make a difference. Forcing college students to be vaccinated/boosted will not prevent elderly colleagues from contracting Covid. They might still get Covid from other places, and they might still get Covid from vaccinated students.

This is not a good reason to force these shots on kids and young adults.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately we are starting to see the deaths of faculty who have had covd multiple times, likely having contracted itbfrom.students in large lecture halls etc. I also have several colleagues who are either ill.or cognitively impaired and retiring early. It's not really fair to keep.exposing teachers and faculty to multiple.rounds of covid either

There is no convincing evidence that Covid would circulate any less whether or not vaccines are mandates. You cannot impose this on young adults based on speculation it may benefit older teachers who themselves can get boosted as much as they want.

Agreed. It's pure speculation (barely even speculation, more like just wishful thinking) to say that vaccine mandates will help Covid circulate less. And we certainly don't want to base public health policy on wishful thinking.

We simply don't have the science to support that position.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get what the big deal is with people opposed to getting the vaccine. Seriously, what is your problem?

The issue is with college kids. Many have had three and four doses already, as well as having had covid once or twice. That's a lot of doses/exposure for healthy kids who face almost no risk of serious outcomes from covid and are most susceptible to the small risks of myocarditis post-vaccine. However, even with all these prior doses/exposures, some colleges may now switch to requiring the bivalent given the change in the FDA's recommendations and it's unclear whether they might also require a combined covid/flu vaccine if it's released later in the fall. The way colleges have implemented these requirements is also odd. Some have required booster/bivalent for students but only recommended them for faculty and staff, even though covid risks rise with age.

A lot of doses in such a small amount of time also!

Say two doses, plus two boosters, plus having had Covid once or twice in there.

We’re talking about young adults being exposed to this virus six times in 3 years or so? Are we sure that’s okay?

The thing is, no one in charge actually cares. And to some extent the parents don’t even care - they just are afraid of being called MAGA or stupid. Pathetic

Oh, this is SO true. Our public health officials from the top down threw our kids under the bus during Covid. They didn't speak up when it came to re-opening schools. They allowed mandates to be pushed through without the proper scientific data to support them. It's terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately we are starting to see the deaths of faculty who have had covd multiple times, likely having contracted itbfrom.students in large lecture halls etc. I also have several colleagues who are either ill.or cognitively impaired and retiring early. It's not really fair to keep.exposing teachers and faculty to multiple.rounds of covid either

If the vaxd faculty keep catching covid, how does it follow that they are contracting it from unvaxd students? How is that logical?? Anyone can can catch and transmit covid, regardless of vax status. Do you think the vaxd faculty who keeps catching covid is going to keep it to themselves? No. They can spread it, too. Use your critical thinking skills.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get what the big deal is with people opposed to getting the vaccine. Seriously, what is your problem?

The vaccine injuries from this shot are very high. Look it up. There has been so much censorship on this issue. Including on this blog. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been deleted yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately we are starting to see the deaths of faculty who have had covd multiple times, likely having contracted itbfrom.students in large lecture halls etc. I also have several colleagues who are either ill.or cognitively impaired and retiring early. It's not really fair to keep.exposing teachers and faculty to multiple.rounds of covid either

How can you know whether these deaths are from covid or from the vaccine? Seriously. How?! Why would people who get the vax so many times get covd so many times?! At some point you have to start questioning the treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately we are starting to see the deaths of faculty who have had covd multiple times, likely having contracted itbfrom.students in large lecture halls etc. I also have several colleagues who are either ill.or cognitively impaired and retiring early. It's not really fair to keep.exposing teachers and faculty to multiple.rounds of covid either

How can you know whether these deaths are from covid or from the vaccine? Seriously. How?! Why would people who get the vax so many times get covd so many times?! At some point you have to start questioning the treatment.

The thing is, people who question it out loud get censored. So, people only see one opinion, and then they get manipulated into thinking that they must be maga for questioning the obvious, so they keep their rational opinions to themselves for fear of being viewed as a pariah. We've all been mindf**kd.

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The vaccine was never claimed to be 100% effective at preventing someone from catching covid. Its purpose is to reduce the seriousness of the outcome ( mild case requiring only self care vs hospitalisation vs death) and reduce transmissibility.

This is middle school level biology lol.

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The vaccine was never claimed to be 100% effective at preventing someone from catching covid. Its purpose is to reduce the seriousness of the outcome ( mild case requiring only self care vs hospitalisation vs death) and reduce transmissibility.

This is middle school level biology lol.

But it’s very unclear if it reduces transmissibility in any meaningful way, hence there is no basis at all to mandate it. Even if it did reduce transmissibility, the risk of vaccine injury renders it unsuitable for mandates (as opposed to more harmless traditional vaccines)

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Anonymous wrote:You have no control over whether your non-minor child gets vaccinated

You've said this exact same thing, verbatim, in another thread a couple months ago.

Why do you think that ALL college students want to get the vax but their parents are against it? IME (as a parent of college students) that is definitely not the case.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately we are starting to see the deaths of faculty who have had covd multiple times, likely having contracted itbfrom.students in large lecture halls etc. I also have several colleagues who are either ill.or cognitively impaired and retiring early. It's not really fair to keep.exposing teachers and faculty to multiple.rounds of covid either

They can quit.