So, what's the pecking order for Boston schools

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wellesley above Tufts? It's a consistent top 5 ranked LAC and it has direct cross registration privileges with MIT.

Here's WSJ/THE's ranking of the top 10 in Boston: https://graphics.wsj.com/table/COLLEGE_RANKING_BOSTON

Here's Niche's: https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

Isn't it girl's only school?
So half of the population is not interested.
Out of the half, majority is not interested in LAC, so

Wellesley is one of the Seven Sisters schools. For those from Boston, Tufts and Wellesley are very close to the same level, which is, very difficult for admittance.

Added Wellesley.

- Student Stats by SAT middle 50% (2021)
TU: 1380 - 1530
BC: 1330 - 1500
BU: 1310 - 1500
NU: 1410 - 1540
WC: 1350 - 1520

- Retention Rate
TU: 95%
BC: 95%
BU: 94%
NU: 98%
WC: 96%

- Graduation Rate
TU: 94%
BC: 91%
BU: 89%
NU: 91%
WC: 92%

- Salary Outcome
TU: $74K
BC: $96K
BU: $81K
NU: $89K
WC: $76K

These schools are all similarly very difficult for admittance.
Looks like Wellesley belongs to this group very well.

Utterly meaningless given how NEU “games” its stats. Easy example - it accepts many students into first semester abroad or in CA and none of those students scores are factored into these number.

Many schools do that - it is a non issue, much to your dismay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wellesley above Tufts? It's a consistent top 5 ranked LAC and it has direct cross registration privileges with MIT.

Here's WSJ/THE's ranking of the top 10 in Boston: https://graphics.wsj.com/table/COLLEGE_RANKING_BOSTON

Here's Niche's: https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

Isn't it girl's only school?
So half of the population is not interested.
Out of the half, majority is not interested in LAC, so

Wellesley is one of the Seven Sisters schools. For those from Boston, Tufts and Wellesley are very close to the same level, which is, very difficult for admittance.

Added Wellesley.

- Student Stats by SAT middle 50% (2021)
TU: 1380 - 1530
BC: 1330 - 1500
BU: 1310 - 1500
NU: 1410 - 1540
WC: 1350 - 1520

- Retention Rate
TU: 95%
BC: 95%
BU: 94%
NU: 98%
WC: 96%

- Graduation Rate
TU: 94%
BC: 91%
BU: 89%
NU: 91%
WC: 92%

- Salary Outcome
TU: $74K
BC: $96K
BU: $81K
NU: $89K
WC: $76K

These schools are all similarly very difficult for admittance.
Looks like Wellesley belongs to this group very well.

Utterly meaningless given how NEU “games” its stats. Easy example - it accepts many students into first semester abroad or in CA and none of those students scores are factored into these number.

Again, most other schools accept 20-30% incoming students from transfer.
Most of them are admitted from lower tier schools. They don't provide stats on them.
For example a T20 schools like Berkeley accepts 30% incoming students from transfer and many of them are from community colleges.
30% of Columbia is GS students who's stats are not calculated together with College of Engineering or Art & Science.
Nobody ever question these.
Besides many schools have first year somewhere programs. I believe BU has one.

The quality of NU's internal transfer students are in fact almost as good as Boston direct admit students in terms of stats.
They were actually evaluated the same way and chosen with stats unlike transfer students for other schools.
Their stats are slightly lower if lower. Some of them actually have higher stats than the ones admitted in ED1 or ED2.
People just like to pick on Northeastern without thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wellesley above Tufts? It's a consistent top 5 ranked LAC and it has direct cross registration privileges with MIT.

Here's WSJ/THE's ranking of the top 10 in Boston: https://graphics.wsj.com/table/COLLEGE_RANKING_BOSTON

Here's Niche's: https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

Isn't it girl's only school?
So half of the population is not interested.
Out of the half, majority is not interested in LAC, so

Wellesley is one of the Seven Sisters schools. For those from Boston, Tufts and Wellesley are very close to the same level, which is, very difficult for admittance.

Added Wellesley.

- Student Stats by SAT middle 50% (2021)
TU: 1380 - 1530
BC: 1330 - 1500
BU: 1310 - 1500
NU: 1410 - 1540
WC: 1350 - 1520

- Retention Rate
TU: 95%
BC: 95%
BU: 94%
NU: 98%
WC: 96%

- Graduation Rate
TU: 94%
BC: 91%
BU: 89%
NU: 91%
WC: 92%

- Salary Outcome
TU: $74K
BC: $96K
BU: $81K
NU: $89K
WC: $76K

These schools are all similarly very difficult for admittance.
Looks like Wellesley belongs to this group very well.

Cite?

Salary Outcome
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/

Retention
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/freshmen-least-most-likely-return

Graduation
https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/GraduationRate6Year/

SAT
https://www.reachhighscholars.org/scores_and_acceptance.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wellesley above Tufts? It's a consistent top 5 ranked LAC and it has direct cross registration privileges with MIT.

Here's WSJ/THE's ranking of the top 10 in Boston: https://graphics.wsj.com/table/COLLEGE_RANKING_BOSTON

Here's Niche's: https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

Isn't it girl's only school?
So half of the population is not interested.
Out of the half, majority is not interested in LAC, so

Wellesley is one of the Seven Sisters schools. For those from Boston, Tufts and Wellesley are very close to the same level, which is, very difficult for admittance.

Added Wellesley.

- Student Stats by SAT middle 50% (2021)
TU: 1380 - 1530
BC: 1330 - 1500
BU: 1310 - 1500
NU: 1410 - 1540
WC: 1350 - 1520

- Retention Rate
TU: 95%
BC: 95%
BU: 94%
NU: 98%
WC: 96%

- Graduation Rate
TU: 94%
BC: 91%
BU: 89%
NU: 91%
WC: 92%

- Salary Outcome
TU: $74K
BC: $96K
BU: $81K
NU: $89K
WC: $76K

These schools are all similarly very difficult for admittance.
Looks like Wellesley belongs to this group very well.

Utterly meaningless given how NEU “games” its stats. Easy example - it accepts many students into first semester abroad or in CA and none of those students scores are factored into these number.

Again, most other schools accept 20-30% incoming students from transfer.
Most of them are admitted from lower tier schools. They don't provide stats on them.
For example a T20 schools like Berkeley accepts 30% incoming students from transfer and many of them are from community colleges.
30% of Columbia is GS students who's stats are not calculated together with College of Engineering or Art & Science.
Nobody ever question these.
Besides many schools have first year somewhere programs. I believe BU has one.

The quality of NU's internal transfer students are in fact almost as good as Boston direct admit students in terms of stats.
They were actually evaluated the same way and chosen with stats unlike transfer students for other schools.
Their stats are slightly lower if lower. Some of them actually have higher stats than the ones admitted in ED1 or ED2.
People just like to pick on Northeastern without thinking.

I don't care either way about Northeastern, but at my kid's school (small SF private), every single kid who applied ED got in to the Oakland program. I know some of their stats and it surprised me (but good for them). I think being full pay went farther than stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wellesley above Tufts? It's a consistent top 5 ranked LAC and it has direct cross registration privileges with MIT.

Here's WSJ/THE's ranking of the top 10 in Boston: https://graphics.wsj.com/table/COLLEGE_RANKING_BOSTON

Here's Niche's: https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

Isn't it girl's only school?
So half of the population is not interested.
Out of the half, majority is not interested in LAC, so

Wellesley is one of the Seven Sisters schools. For those from Boston, Tufts and Wellesley are very close to the same level, which is, very difficult for admittance.

Added Wellesley.

- Student Stats by SAT middle 50% (2021)
TU: 1380 - 1530
BC: 1330 - 1500
BU: 1310 - 1500
NU: 1410 - 1540
WC: 1350 - 1520

- Retention Rate
TU: 95%
BC: 95%
BU: 94%
NU: 98%
WC: 96%

- Graduation Rate
TU: 94%
BC: 91%
BU: 89%
NU: 91%
WC: 92%

- Salary Outcome
TU: $74K
BC: $96K
BU: $81K
NU: $89K
WC: $76K

These schools are all similarly very difficult for admittance.
Looks like Wellesley belongs to this group very well.

Utterly meaningless given how NEU “games” its stats. Easy example - it accepts many students into first semester abroad or in CA and none of those students scores are factored into these number.

Again, most other schools accept 20-30% incoming students from transfer.
Most of them are admitted from lower tier schools. They don't provide stats on them.
For example a T20 schools like Berkeley accepts 30% incoming students from transfer and many of them are from community colleges.
30% of Columbia is GS students who's stats are not calculated together with College of Engineering or Art & Science.
Nobody ever question these.
Besides many schools have first year somewhere programs. I believe BU has one.

The quality of NU's internal transfer students are in fact almost as good as Boston direct admit students in terms of stats.
They were actually evaluated the same way and chosen with stats unlike transfer students for other schools.
Their stats are slightly lower if lower. Some of them actually have higher stats than the ones admitted in ED1 or ED2.
People just like to pick on Northeastern without thinking.

I don't care either way about Northeastern, but at my kid's school (small SF private), every single kid who applied ED got in to the Oakland program. I know some of their stats and it surprised me (but good for them). I think being full pay went farther than stats.

Oakland has two different offers. One is 4 years at Oakland and graduation from Oakland.
Many collages have this type of satellite campuses.
They obviously have lower stats.

Another offer is guaranteed transfer after one or two year(s).
Same way as UVA Wise campus or Emory Oxford campus.

NU just opened the the Oakland campus, and need to fill them up, so probably little lesser stats than previous years.
Stats above are before Oakland. We'll see how it settles down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wellesley above Tufts? It's a consistent top 5 ranked LAC and it has direct cross registration privileges with MIT.

Here's WSJ/THE's ranking of the top 10 in Boston: https://graphics.wsj.com/table/COLLEGE_RANKING_BOSTON

Here's Niche's: https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

I have the same question. My daughter either declined to apply, or declined to accept, most of these schools in order to go to Wellesley this coming fall. She’ was looking at relative status, among some other factors, and that was her impression.

That alternative ranking cited earlier (based on quality of professors, student happiness, diversity, etc.) would be useful to help her justify her decision if she feels the need.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/6/

[Anonymous]

There are a few DCUM posters who rail on NEU nonstop (I am sorry that NEU takes up so much space in their heads, rent-free).

However, over 96,000 students applied this year, and it IS a hot school. It's become a top research school, has a great location with a well-known co-op program that produces students that go on to stellar careers.

Schools change. What was a commuter school can become a great school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wellesley above Tufts? It's a consistent top 5 ranked LAC and it has direct cross registration privileges with MIT.

Here's WSJ/THE's ranking of the top 10 in Boston: https://graphics.wsj.com/table/COLLEGE_RANKING_BOSTON

Here's Niche's: https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

Isn't it girl's only school?
So half of the population is not interested.
Out of the half, majority is not interested in LAC, so

Wellesley is one of the Seven Sisters schools. For those from Boston, Tufts and Wellesley are very close to the same level, which is, very difficult for admittance.

Added Wellesley.

- Student Stats by SAT middle 50% (2021)
TU: 1380 - 1530
BC: 1330 - 1500
BU: 1310 - 1500
NU: 1410 - 1540
WC: 1350 - 1520

- Retention Rate
TU: 95%
BC: 95%
BU: 94%
NU: 98%
WC: 96%

- Graduation Rate
TU: 94%
BC: 91%
BU: 89%
NU: 91%
WC: 92%

- Salary Outcome
TU: $74K
BC: $96K
BU: $81K
NU: $89K
WC: $76K

These schools are all similarly very difficult for admittance.
Looks like Wellesley belongs to this group very well.

Utterly meaningless given how NEU “games” its stats. Easy example - it accepts many students into first semester abroad or in CA and none of those students scores are factored into these number.

Again, most other schools accept 20-30% incoming students from transfer.
Most of them are admitted from lower tier schools. They don't provide stats on them.
For example a T20 schools like Berkeley accepts 30% incoming students from transfer and many of them are from community colleges.
30% of Columbia is GS students who's stats are not calculated together with College of Engineering or Art & Science.
Nobody ever question these.
Besides many schools have first year somewhere programs. I believe BU has one.

The quality of NU's internal transfer students are in fact almost as good as Boston direct admit students in terms of stats.
They were actually evaluated the same way and chosen with stats unlike transfer students for other schools.
Their stats are slightly lower if lower. Some of them actually have higher stats than the ones admitted in ED1 or ED2.
People just like to pick on Northeastern without thinking.

+1

Agree - OP is much like a petulant child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Salary comparison for above three schools for CS

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?167358-Northeastern-University&fos_code=1101&fos_credential=3
NU: $132,227

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?168421-Worcester-Polytechnic-Institute&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
WPI: $124,359

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166629-University-of-Massachusetts-Amherst&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
UMA: $111,935

Of course you would be fine at any of the fine schools for CS, but schools as a whole NU is regarded a level above WPI and UMA which have around 60% acceptance rates.

This is probably because the NU students have the CO-OP experience.

Quite a few of the UMass Amherst CS graduates pursue advanced degrees (some in their UMA's ranked Master's and Doctoral programs in Computer Science) and are earning less out of undergrad because they are working part time or in research.

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Anonymous wrote:Olin is really good, but niche. Also don’t see WPI listed, I think it’s the same level at BU and Babson.

Agree this is just about colleges in Boston, but if location didn't matter, WPI is above Northeastern, rankings aside. You'd pick WPI over Northeastern any day unless you are all in on the 5 year plan with internships. Babson and WPI are so completely different, you wouldn't be applying to both, so no sense in comparing. Babson is a business school, WPI's unofficial joke motto is "Friends don't let friends transfer to MIT."

One of many reasons rankings are nonsense.

You are totally wrong and delusional.
WPI has 60% acceptance rate.
WPI is a good solid tech school, but people pick Northeastern any day of course.
Employers also pick Northeastern first
It's clearly a step below.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Northeastern+University&with=Worcester+Polytechnic+Institute

[Anonymous]

Acceptance rate is the dumbest criteria for ranking the quality of a school.