Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.

And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.

That should say LC writer's workshop. Lucy Caulkins.

No, they would be turning 18.

If move-in day is August 15 and your DC turns 18 on August 31, they will be 17 when you drop them off at college. Yes, they turn 18 quickly but you’re dropping off a kid who is not yet a legal adult.

You wouldn’t send your child to college because of the two weeks of being 17? Good Lord!

What's the rush?

What’s the holdup?

For me it was that my late August birthday kid cried every single day of kindergarten because she "just wanted to play" and hated all of the seat work in school. She was sent to the Principal's office daily for minor infractions and started considering herself to be a "bad kid." Academically she was fine, but she lacked social emotional readiness to succeed in K. Having been through that year, I wish I'd held her. It took us years to rebuilt her interest in school and confidence that she's not inherently "bad."

That would be my hold up. My kid's well being.

Yet, you accuse others who put their child through at the appropriate time as rushing.
Your kid had a problem, most do not.

I'm a NP and didn't accuse anyone of rushing. I was just explaining why someone might hold a kid.

For the record there's nothing wrong with my kid except being young for her grade and immature. She grew put of all of it. We could have saved a lot of angst for everyone (her, us, teachers, classmates) by just letting her start when she was a bit older.

Where do you get that most August kids, especially boys, are ready under today's K expectations? I think the abundance of redshirting weighs against that conclusion.

If these kids are a year younger, they aren't less mature than their peers and its not developmentally appropriate for them to be more "mature."

My kid was an August 30 birthday with a September 1 cutoff. She was going to be the oldest or the youngest. It turns about that she was not ready for the expectations of kindergarten, which was harmful to her and disruptive to her classmates. Perhaps it's that kindergarten wasn't developmentally appropriate for a kid her age, but I can't change that. Nor could I waive a wand and make her magically more mature. All I could have done was hold her. She would have done better.

K is designed for 5 year olds. Your child would have been 5 in K. It's bizarre to say it's not developmentally appropriate. Expecting kids to be mature at 5 is setting them up for failure as they are 5, not 45. You are unrealistic on your expectations for a young child.

I can tell you that the curriculum at our public school was designed for mature 5 or 6 yos. In the first week of kindergarten, when she was still 4 yo, she was told to write a personal narrative and to stretch out her letter sounds to make words. They were supposed to write for 45 minutes every morning as part of PC writer's workshop. She ended up in the Principal's office on day 3 of kindergarten for dropping her pencil too many times during writing. She was 4 yo for goodness sakes.

Most if not any of that is believable. I’m sure that how it happened. Sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.

And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.

No, they would be turning 18.

If move-in day is August 15 and your DC turns 18 on August 31, they will be 17 when you drop them off at college. Yes, they turn 18 quickly but you’re dropping off a kid who is not yet a legal adult.

You wouldn’t send your child to college because of the two weeks of being 17? Good Lord!

What's the rush?

What’s the holdup?

For me it was that my late August birthday kid cried every single day of kindergarten because she "just wanted to play" and hated all of the seat work in school. She was sent to the Principal's office daily for minor infractions and started considering herself to be a "bad kid." Academically she was fine, but she lacked social emotional readiness to succeed in K. Having been through that year, I wish I'd held her. It took us years to rebuilt her interest in school and confidence that she's not inherently "bad."

That would be my hold up. My kid's well being.

Yet, you accuse others who put their child through at the appropriate time as rushing.
Your kid had a problem, most do not.

I'm a NP and didn't accuse anyone of rushing. I was just explaining why someone might hold a kid.

For the record there's nothing wrong with my kid except being young for her grade and immature. She grew put of all of it. We could have saved a lot of angst for everyone (her, us, teachers, classmates) by just letting her start when she was a bit older.

Where do you get that most August kids, especially boys, are ready under today's K expectations? I think the abundance of redshirting weighs against that conclusion.

If these kids are a year younger, they aren't less mature than their peers and its not developmentally appropriate for them to be more "mature."

My kid was an August 30 birthday with a September 1 cutoff. She was going to be the oldest or the youngest. It turns about that she was not ready for the expectations of kindergarten, which was harmful to her and disruptive to her classmates. Perhaps it's that kindergarten wasn't developmentally appropriate for a kid her age, but I can't change that. Nor could I waive a wand and make her magically more mature. All I could have done was hold her. She would have done better.

K is designed for 5 year olds. Your child would have been 5 in K. It's bizarre to say it's not developmentally appropriate. Expecting kids to be mature at 5 is setting them up for failure as they are 5, not 45. You are unrealistic on your expectations for a young child.

I can tell you that the curriculum at our public school was designed for mature 5 or 6 yos. In the first week of kindergarten, when she was still 4 yo, she was told to write a personal narrative and to stretch out her letter sounds to make words. They were supposed to write for 45 minutes every morning as part of PC writer's workshop. She ended up in the Principal's office on day 3 of kindergarten for dropping her pencil too many times during writing. She was 4 yo for goodness sakes.

No kindergarten class is asking a child to write a personal narrative.

I promise it's true. Lucy Caulkins nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.

And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.

No, they would be turning 18.

If move-in day is August 15 and your DC turns 18 on August 31, they will be 17 when you drop them off at college. Yes, they turn 18 quickly but you’re dropping off a kid who is not yet a legal adult.

You wouldn’t send your child to college because of the two weeks of being 17? Good Lord!

What's the rush?

What’s the holdup?

For me it was that my late August birthday kid cried every single day of kindergarten because she "just wanted to play" and hated all of the seat work in school. She was sent to the Principal's office daily for minor infractions and started considering herself to be a "bad kid." Academically she was fine, but she lacked social emotional readiness to succeed in K. Having been through that year, I wish I'd held her. It took us years to rebuilt her interest in school and confidence that she's not inherently "bad."

That would be my hold up. My kid's well being.

Yet, you accuse others who put their child through at the appropriate time as rushing.
Your kid had a problem, most do not.

I'm a NP and didn't accuse anyone of rushing. I was just explaining why someone might hold a kid.

For the record there's nothing wrong with my kid except being young for her grade and immature. She grew put of all of it. We could have saved a lot of angst for everyone (her, us, teachers, classmates) by just letting her start when she was a bit older.

Where do you get that most August kids, especially boys, are ready under today's K expectations? I think the abundance of redshirting weighs against that conclusion.

If these kids are a year younger, they aren't less mature than their peers and its not developmentally appropriate for them to be more "mature."

My kid was an August 30 birthday with a September 1 cutoff. She was going to be the oldest or the youngest. It turns about that she was not ready for the expectations of kindergarten, which was harmful to her and disruptive to her classmates. Perhaps it's that kindergarten wasn't developmentally appropriate for a kid her age, but I can't change that. Nor could I waive a wand and make her magically more mature. All I could have done was hold her. She would have done better.

K is designed for 5 year olds. Your child would have been 5 in K. It's bizarre to say it's not developmentally appropriate. Expecting kids to be mature at 5 is setting them up for failure as they are 5, not 45. You are unrealistic on your expectations for a young child.

I can tell you that the curriculum at our public school was designed for mature 5 or 6 yos. In the first week of kindergarten, when she was still 4 yo, she was told to write a personal narrative and to stretch out her letter sounds to make words. They were supposed to write for 45 minutes every morning as part of PC writer's workshop. She ended up in the Principal's office on day 3 of kindergarten for dropping her pencil too many times during writing. She was 4 yo for goodness sakes.

No kindergarten class is asking a child to write a personal narrative.

I promise it's true. Lucy Caulkins nonsense.

Not true.

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.

And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.

No, they would be turning 18.

If move-in day is August 15 and your DC turns 18 on August 31, they will be 17 when you drop them off at college. Yes, they turn 18 quickly but you’re dropping off a kid who is not yet a legal adult.

You wouldn’t send your child to college because of the two weeks of being 17? Good Lord!

What's the rush?

What’s the holdup?

For me it was that my late August birthday kid cried every single day of kindergarten because she "just wanted to play" and hated all of the seat work in school. She was sent to the Principal's office daily for minor infractions and started considering herself to be a "bad kid." Academically she was fine, but she lacked social emotional readiness to succeed in K. Having been through that year, I wish I'd held her. It took us years to rebuilt her interest in school and confidence that she's not inherently "bad."

That would be my hold up. My kid's well being.

Yet, you accuse others who put their child through at the appropriate time as rushing.
Your kid had a problem, most do not.

I'm a NP and didn't accuse anyone of rushing. I was just explaining why someone might hold a kid.

For the record there's nothing wrong with my kid except being young for her grade and immature. She grew put of all of it. We could have saved a lot of angst for everyone (her, us, teachers, classmates) by just letting her start when she was a bit older.

Where do you get that most August kids, especially boys, are ready under today's K expectations? I think the abundance of redshirting weighs against that conclusion.

If these kids are a year younger, they aren't less mature than their peers and its not developmentally appropriate for them to be more "mature."

My kid was an August 30 birthday with a September 1 cutoff. She was going to be the oldest or the youngest. It turns about that she was not ready for the expectations of kindergarten, which was harmful to her and disruptive to her classmates. Perhaps it's that kindergarten wasn't developmentally appropriate for a kid her age, but I can't change that. Nor could I waive a wand and make her magically more mature. All I could have done was hold her. She would have done better.

K is designed for 5 year olds. Your child would have been 5 in K. It's bizarre to say it's not developmentally appropriate. Expecting kids to be mature at 5 is setting them up for failure as they are 5, not 45. You are unrealistic on your expectations for a young child.

I can tell you that the curriculum at our public school was designed for mature 5 or 6 yos. In the first week of kindergarten, when she was still 4 yo, she was told to write a personal narrative and to stretch out her letter sounds to make words. They were supposed to write for 45 minutes every morning as part of PC writer's workshop. She ended up in the Principal's office on day 3 of kindergarten for dropping her pencil too many times during writing. She was 4 yo for goodness sakes.

No kindergarten class is asking a child to write a personal narrative.

I promise it's true. Lucy Caulkins nonsense.

Not true.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has their kindergartener get this assignment. My younger one got it too. It was standard in LC, though not usually introduced on week 1.

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.

And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.

No, they would be turning 18.

If move-in day is August 15 and your DC turns 18 on August 31, they will be 17 when you drop them off at college. Yes, they turn 18 quickly but you’re dropping off a kid who is not yet a legal adult.

You wouldn’t send your child to college because of the two weeks of being 17? Good Lord!

What's the rush?

What’s the holdup?

For me it was that my late August birthday kid cried every single day of kindergarten because she "just wanted to play" and hated all of the seat work in school. She was sent to the Principal's office daily for minor infractions and started considering herself to be a "bad kid." Academically she was fine, but she lacked social emotional readiness to succeed in K. Having been through that year, I wish I'd held her. It took us years to rebuilt her interest in school and confidence that she's not inherently "bad."

That would be my hold up. My kid's well being.

Yet, you accuse others who put their child through at the appropriate time as rushing.
Your kid had a problem, most do not.

I'm a NP and didn't accuse anyone of rushing. I was just explaining why someone might hold a kid.

For the record there's nothing wrong with my kid except being young for her grade and immature. She grew put of all of it. We could have saved a lot of angst for everyone (her, us, teachers, classmates) by just letting her start when she was a bit older.

Where do you get that most August kids, especially boys, are ready under today's K expectations? I think the abundance of redshirting weighs against that conclusion.

If these kids are a year younger, they aren't less mature than their peers and its not developmentally appropriate for them to be more "mature."

My kid was an August 30 birthday with a September 1 cutoff. She was going to be the oldest or the youngest. It turns about that she was not ready for the expectations of kindergarten, which was harmful to her and disruptive to her classmates. Perhaps it's that kindergarten wasn't developmentally appropriate for a kid her age, but I can't change that. Nor could I waive a wand and make her magically more mature. All I could have done was hold her. She would have done better.

K is designed for 5 year olds. Your child would have been 5 in K. It's bizarre to say it's not developmentally appropriate. Expecting kids to be mature at 5 is setting them up for failure as they are 5, not 45. You are unrealistic on your expectations for a young child.

I can tell you that the curriculum at our public school was designed for mature 5 or 6 yos. In the first week of kindergarten, when she was still 4 yo, she was told to write a personal narrative and to stretch out her letter sounds to make words. They were supposed to write for 45 minutes every morning as part of PC writer's workshop. She ended up in the Principal's office on day 3 of kindergarten for dropping her pencil too many times during writing. She was 4 yo for goodness sakes.

No kindergarten class is asking a child to write a personal narrative.

I promise it's true. Lucy Caulkins nonsense.

Not true.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has their kindergartener get this assignment. My younger one got it too. It was standard in LC, though not usually introduced on week 1.

No one is believing that yours or any other kindergartener is assigned a personal narrative to write. Nor is the Lucy Calkins curicullum a reason to redshirt a
child.

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My kindergartener was also asked to write a personal narrative. Was asked to sign his name the very first day of school on a classroom promise. I’m not sure why PP isn’t being believed.

US public school in California.

[Anonymous]

Good luck, OP. It is hard to decide what is best. I have an August 30th boy and went back and forth about redshirting. Ended up sending on time. I still don’t know if it was the right decision, but it worked out fine. The main struggles were in middle school when he was not in puberty yet and most of the other boys were. He seemed a little immature and physically small for about 18 months. Once in 9th grade, he caught up on all fronts. He has always done fine academically. Definitely less coordinated in elementary school than most of the other boys.

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My kids at a very well known private in DC have written stories in K… probably not the first week, but I definitely remember them doing it soon after the beginning. They are also expected to start reading at the beginning of K. This was not an issue for my girls, but they are on the older side of the class.

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Redshirt. Am a September kid and my folks didn’t and I was too immature for most of my school aged years. When I finally grew up, crushed college and a top Ivy Law School, my folks noted they should have let me hang back for physical and emotional development reasons. Plus, you get an extra year with your kid. With boys, they are gone for good once they hit 22 so why not.

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Anonymous wrote:My kindergartener was also asked to write a personal narrative. Was asked to sign his name the very first day of school on a classroom promise. I’m not sure why PP isn’t being believed.

US public school in California.

My child was never asked to write a personal narrative in kindergarten and the vast majority are not either. I don’t believe you or anyone who claims such nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirt. Am a September kid and my folks didn’t and I was too immature for most of my school aged years. When I finally grew up, crushed college and a top Ivy Law School, my folks noted they should have let me hang back for physical and emotional development reasons. Plus, you get an extra year with your kid. With boys, they are gone for good once they hit 22 so why not.

So your parents were right to not hold you back, obviously.

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.

And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.

No, they would be turning 18.

If move-in day is August 15 and your DC turns 18 on August 31, they will be 17 when you drop them off at college. Yes, they turn 18 quickly but you’re dropping off a kid who is not yet a legal adult.

You wouldn’t send your child to college because of the two weeks of being 17? Good Lord!

What's the rush?

What’s the holdup?

For me it was that my late August birthday kid cried every single day of kindergarten because she "just wanted to play" and hated all of the seat work in school. She was sent to the Principal's office daily for minor infractions and started considering herself to be a "bad kid." Academically she was fine, but she lacked social emotional readiness to succeed in K. Having been through that year, I wish I'd held her. It took us years to rebuilt her interest in school and confidence that she's not inherently "bad."

That would be my hold up. My kid's well being.

Yet, you accuse others who put their child through at the appropriate time as rushing.
Your kid had a problem, most do not.

I'm a NP and didn't accuse anyone of rushing. I was just explaining why someone might hold a kid.

For the record there's nothing wrong with my kid except being young for her grade and immature. She grew put of all of it. We could have saved a lot of angst for everyone (her, us, teachers, classmates) by just letting her start when she was a bit older.

Where do you get that most August kids, especially boys, are ready under today's K expectations? I think the abundance of redshirting weighs against that conclusion.

If these kids are a year younger, they aren't less mature than their peers and its not developmentally appropriate for them to be more "mature."

My kid was an August 30 birthday with a September 1 cutoff. She was going to be the oldest or the youngest. It turns about that she was not ready for the expectations of kindergarten, which was harmful to her and disruptive to her classmates. Perhaps it's that kindergarten wasn't developmentally appropriate for a kid her age, but I can't change that. Nor could I waive a wand and make her magically more mature. All I could have done was hold her. She would have done better.

K is designed for 5 year olds. Your child would have been 5 in K. It's bizarre to say it's not developmentally appropriate. Expecting kids to be mature at 5 is setting them up for failure as they are 5, not 45. You are unrealistic on your expectations for a young child.

I can tell you that the curriculum at our public school was designed for mature 5 or 6 yos. In the first week of kindergarten, when she was still 4 yo, she was told to write a personal narrative and to stretch out her letter sounds to make words. They were supposed to write for 45 minutes every morning as part of PC writer's workshop. She ended up in the Principal's office on day 3 of kindergarten for dropping her pencil too many times during writing. She was 4 yo for goodness sakes.

No kindergarten class is asking a child to write a personal narrative.

I promise it's true. Lucy Caulkins nonsense.

Not true.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has their kindergartener get this assignment. My younger one got it too. It was standard in LC, though not usually introduced on week 1.

No one is believing that yours or any other kindergartener is assigned a personal narrative to write. Nor is the Lucy Calkins curicullum a reason to redshirt a
child.

A copy of the Lucy Caulkins' curriculum for K that lays out how to teach personal narratives, see page 12.
https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf

This is a message board so I'm not going to type out every ridiculously inappropriate expectation for a young 5 yo that I experienced, but it was pervasive. K was really geared for old 5s and 6 yos, if not even older.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirt. Am a September kid and my folks didn’t and I was too immature for most of my school aged years. When I finally grew up, crushed college and a top Ivy Law School, my folks noted they should have let me hang back for physical and emotional development reasons. Plus, you get an extra year with your kid. With boys, they are gone for good once they hit 22 so why not.

Why not? Because it’s not the right thing to do unless there is disability or illness.

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Anonymous wrote:My kindergartener was also asked to write a personal narrative. Was asked to sign his name the very first day of school on a classroom promise. I’m not sure why PP isn’t being believed.

US public school in California.

My child was never asked to write a personal narrative in kindergarten and the vast majority are not either. I don’t believe you or anyone who claims such nonsense.

My kids definitely did this at BVR. They are short few sentences stories or recipes of sorts..

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.

And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.

No, they would be turning 18.

If move-in day is August 15 and your DC turns 18 on August 31, they will be 17 when you drop them off at college. Yes, they turn 18 quickly but you’re dropping off a kid who is not yet a legal adult.

You wouldn’t send your child to college because of the two weeks of being 17? Good Lord!

What's the rush?

What’s the holdup?

For me it was that my late August birthday kid cried every single day of kindergarten because she "just wanted to play" and hated all of the seat work in school. She was sent to the Principal's office daily for minor infractions and started considering herself to be a "bad kid." Academically she was fine, but she lacked social emotional readiness to succeed in K. Having been through that year, I wish I'd held her. It took us years to rebuilt her interest in school and confidence that she's not inherently "bad."

That would be my hold up. My kid's well being.

Yet, you accuse others who put their child through at the appropriate time as rushing.
Your kid had a problem, most do not.

I'm a NP and didn't accuse anyone of rushing. I was just explaining why someone might hold a kid.

For the record there's nothing wrong with my kid except being young for her grade and immature. She grew put of all of it. We could have saved a lot of angst for everyone (her, us, teachers, classmates) by just letting her start when she was a bit older.

Where do you get that most August kids, especially boys, are ready under today's K expectations? I think the abundance of redshirting weighs against that conclusion.

If these kids are a year younger, they aren't less mature than their peers and its not developmentally appropriate for them to be more "mature."

My kid was an August 30 birthday with a September 1 cutoff. She was going to be the oldest or the youngest. It turns about that she was not ready for the expectations of kindergarten, which was harmful to her and disruptive to her classmates. Perhaps it's that kindergarten wasn't developmentally appropriate for a kid her age, but I can't change that. Nor could I waive a wand and make her magically more mature. All I could have done was hold her. She would have done better.

K is designed for 5 year olds. Your child would have been 5 in K. It's bizarre to say it's not developmentally appropriate. Expecting kids to be mature at 5 is setting them up for failure as they are 5, not 45. You are unrealistic on your expectations for a young child.

I can tell you that the curriculum at our public school was designed for mature 5 or 6 yos. In the first week of kindergarten, when she was still 4 yo, she was told to write a personal narrative and to stretch out her letter sounds to make words. They were supposed to write for 45 minutes every morning as part of PC writer's workshop. She ended up in the Principal's office on day 3 of kindergarten for dropping her pencil too many times during writing. She was 4 yo for goodness sakes.

No kindergarten class is asking a child to write a personal narrative.

I promise it's true. Lucy Caulkins nonsense.

Not true.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has their kindergartener get this assignment. My younger one got it too. It was standard in LC, though not usually introduced on week 1.

No one is believing that yours or any other kindergartener is assigned a personal narrative to write. Nor is the Lucy Calkins curicullum a reason to redshirt a
child.

A copy of the Lucy Caulkins' curriculum for K that lays out how to teach personal narratives, see page 12.
https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf

This is a message board so I'm not going to type out every ridiculously inappropriate expectation for a young 5 yo that I experienced, but it was pervasive. K was really geared for old 5s and 6 yos, if not even older.

Lucy Calkins is not obligatory in kindergarten so your experience is not for the overwhelming majority of kindergartners. It is also not a standard by which any one should decide upon holding back their child.