Told by christian friend that my lifelong depression is because I don’t “know Jesus”

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Who is driving this drivel Christians? Christians are the ones against the Separation of Church And State.

Keep your crap out of our schools.
Keep your crap out of our governments.

Fixed it for you. Jesus isn't going to save you. He is literally rolling over in his grave. Since when would Jesus want people behaving like.......

Christians like MTG, BOEBERT, GOSAR, TRUMPS KIDS, JOEL OSTEEN, JERRY FAWWELL,

Just yesterday at CPAC those "Christians" were disgusting.

Spare us your crap. I have no issue with anyone having free choice in religion however when your religion affects my reading of books or how women are treated in this country and how they want to dumb down society and steal our money ie social security then hell NO>

These people aren't really Christians. Christian should mean someone who follows the teachings of Jesus. These people call themselves Christians, but they don't follow his teachings. Jesus would never defend owning guns. He said turn the other cheek. He said love your enemy. He would never condone demonizing immigrants. He said to welcome the stranger. He would not condone bilking people out of money so you can live high on the hog like those mega preachers do.

Basically, the "Christian" right is not really Christian.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Who is driving this drivel Christians? Christians are the ones against the Separation of Church And State.

Keep your crap out of our schools.
Keep your crap out of our governments.

Fixed it for you. Jesus isn't going to save you. He is literally rolling over in his grave. Since when would Jesus want people behaving like.......

Christians like MTG, BOEBERT, GOSAR, TRUMPS KIDS, JOEL OSTEEN, JERRY FAWWELL,

Just yesterday at CPAC those "Christians" were disgusting.

Spare us your crap. I have no issue with anyone having free choice in religion however when your religion affects my reading of books or how women are treated in this country and how they want to dumb down society and steal our money ie social security then hell NO>

These people aren't really Christians. Christian should mean someone who follows the teachings of Jesus. These people call themselves Christians, but they don't follow his teachings. Jesus would never defend owning guns. He said turn the other cheek. He said love your enemy. He would never condone demonizing immigrants. He said to welcome the stranger. He would not condone bilking people out of money so you can live high on the hog like those mega preachers do.

Basically, the "Christian" right is not really Christian.

Self appointed spokesman for Jesus, are we?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Who is driving this drivel Christians? Christians are the ones against the Separation of Church And State.

Keep your crap out of our schools.
Keep your crap out of our governments.

Fixed it for you. Jesus isn't going to save you. He is literally rolling over in his grave. Since when would Jesus want people behaving like.......

Christians like MTG, BOEBERT, GOSAR, TRUMPS KIDS, JOEL OSTEEN, JERRY FAWWELL,

Just yesterday at CPAC those "Christians" were disgusting.

Spare us your crap. I have no issue with anyone having free choice in religion however when your religion affects my reading of books or how women are treated in this country and how they want to dumb down society and steal our money ie social security then hell NO>

These people aren't really Christians. Christian should mean someone who follows the teachings of Jesus. These people call themselves Christians, but they don't follow his teachings. Jesus would never defend owning guns. He said turn the other cheek. He said love your enemy. He would never condone demonizing immigrants. He said to welcome the stranger. He would not condone bilking people out of money so you can live high on the hog like those mega preachers do.

Basically, the "Christian" right is not really Christian.

Self appointed spokesman for Jesus, are we?

No, Self appointed spokesman for common sense. No real religious leader, like Jesus, or Buddha would be for the awful stuff mentioned above

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

Atheists simply choose to say they don’t believe in God. They don’t get any say in how other people feel about God, including God’s existence, or the personal relationship a person may choose to have via their religious beliefs, with God.

Your personal feelings about God do not impact anyone else’s regarding the existence of God.

Your atheism is how you view the world for you- not the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Who is driving this drivel Christians? Christians are the ones against the Separation of Church And State.

Keep your crap out of our schools.
Keep your crap out of our governments.

Fixed it for you. Jesus isn't going to save you. He is literally rolling over in his grave. Since when would Jesus want people behaving like.......

Christians like MTG, BOEBERT, GOSAR, TRUMPS KIDS, JOEL OSTEEN, JERRY FAWWELL,

Just yesterday at CPAC those "Christians" were disgusting.

Spare us your crap. I have no issue with anyone having free choice in religion however when your religion affects my reading of books or how women are treated in this country and how they want to dumb down society and steal our money ie social security then hell NO>

These people aren't really Christians. Christian should mean someone who follows the teachings of Jesus. These people call themselves Christians, but they don't follow his teachings. Jesus would never defend owning guns. He said turn the other cheek. He said love your enemy. He would never condone demonizing immigrants. He said to welcome the stranger. He would not condone bilking people out of money so you can live high on the hog like those mega preachers do.

Basically, the "Christian" right is not really Christian.

Self appointed spokesman for Jesus, are we?

No, Self appointed spokesman for common sense. No real religious leader, like Jesus, or Buddha would be for the awful stuff mentioned above

Self appointed “common sense” spokesperson for Jesus and Buddha?

I can tell how much you know about religion and guns and Trump’s kids, because you type so many words in all caps.

That’s the sign of a superior communicator, and no doubt Jesus and Buddha are glad to have you telling everyone what and how they think.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

Atheists simply choose to say they don’t believe in God. They don’t get any say in how other people feel about God, including God’s existence, or the personal relationship a person may choose to have via their religious beliefs, with God.

Your personal feelings about God do not impact anyone else’s regarding the existence of God.

Your atheism is how you view the world for you- not the rest of us.

Here you go straw manning again, arguing against positions no one has made.

The facts are you have it exactly backwards, and it is the religious that preach what will happen if we don’t believe, and the nonreligious that simply say what they believe, which is that there isn’t compelling evidence for a God but if you show us some, we will change our position.

What would make you change your position?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

Atheists simply choose to say they don’t believe in God. They don’t get any say in how other people feel about God, including God’s existence, or the personal relationship a person may choose to have via their religious beliefs, with God.

Your personal feelings about God do not impact anyone else’s regarding the existence of God.

Your atheism is how you view the world for you- not the rest of us.

Here you go straw manning again, arguing against positions no one has made.

The facts are you have it exactly backwards, and it is the religious that preach what will happen if we don’t believe, and the nonreligious that simply say what they believe, which is that there isn’t compelling evidence for a God but if you show us some, we will change our position.

What would make you change your position?

What is your faith that God does not exist based on?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

Atheists simply choose to say they don’t believe in God. They don’t get any say in how other people feel about God, including God’s existence, or the personal relationship a person may choose to have via their religious beliefs, with God.

Your personal feelings about God do not impact anyone else’s regarding the existence of God.

Your atheism is how you view the world for you- not the rest of us.

Here you go straw manning again, arguing against positions no one has made.

The facts are you have it exactly backwards, and it is the religious that preach what will happen if we don’t believe, and the nonreligious that simply say what they believe, which is that there isn’t compelling evidence for a God but if you show us some, we will change our position.

What would make you change your position?

What is your faith that God does not exist based on?

DP It's not faith. It's lack of evidence

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

Atheists simply choose to say they don’t believe in God. They don’t get any say in how other people feel about God, including God’s existence, or the personal relationship a person may choose to have via their religious beliefs, with God.

Your personal feelings about God do not impact anyone else’s regarding the existence of God.

Your atheism is how you view the world for you- not the rest of us.

Here you go straw manning again, arguing against positions no one has made.

The facts are you have it exactly backwards, and it is the religious that preach what will happen if we don’t believe, and the nonreligious that simply say what they believe, which is that there isn’t compelling evidence for a God but if you show us some, we will change our position.

What would make you change your position?

What is your faith that God does not exist based on?

DP It's not faith. It's lack of evidence

Plenty of people see evidence of God.

There are no scientific tests or measures to prove or disprove God’s existence.

Why can’t the original pp answer?

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Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

Atheists simply choose to say they don’t believe in God. They don’t get any say in how other people feel about God, including God’s existence, or the personal relationship a person may choose to have via their religious beliefs, with God.

Your personal feelings about God do not impact anyone else’s regarding the existence of God.

Your atheism is how you view the world for you- not the rest of us.

Here you go straw manning again, arguing against positions no one has made.

The facts are you have it exactly backwards, and it is the religious that preach what will happen if we don’t believe, and the nonreligious that simply say what they believe, which is that there isn’t compelling evidence for a God but if you show us some, we will change our position.

What would make you change your position?

What is your faith that God does not exist based on?

DP It's not faith. It's lack of evidence

Plenty of people see evidence of God.

There are no scientific tests or measures to prove or disprove God’s existence.

Why can’t the original pp answer?

I remember a line in Angels and Demons, the movie. A priest asks Tom Hanks's character "Do you believe in God?" And he says something like "No, father, that's a gift I never received." (or something pretty close to that). It always fascinates me how some people are susceptible to this belief (and can abandon common sense) and some just aren't. I wonder if it's genetic. Some people may have the "believer gene" and some just don't."

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Who is driving this drivel Christians? Christians are the ones against the Separation of Church And State.

Keep your crap out of our schools.
Keep your crap out of our governments.

Fixed it for you. Jesus isn't going to save you. He is literally rolling over in his grave. Since when would Jesus want people behaving like.......

Christians like MTG, BOEBERT, GOSAR, TRUMPS KIDS, JOEL OSTEEN, JERRY FAWWELL,

Just yesterday at CPAC those "Christians" were disgusting.

Spare us your crap. I have no issue with anyone having free choice in religion however when your religion affects my reading of books or how women are treated in this country and how they want to dumb down society and steal our money ie social security then hell NO>

These people aren't really Christians. Christian should mean someone who follows the teachings of Jesus. These people call themselves Christians, but they don't follow his teachings. Jesus would never defend owning guns. He said turn the other cheek. He said love your enemy. He would never condone demonizing immigrants. He said to welcome the stranger. He would not condone bilking people out of money so you can live high on the hog like those mega preachers do.

Basically, the "Christian" right is not really Christian.

Self appointed spokesman for Jesus, are we?

I'm no longer a Christian but I know the Bible, and these things are right there in the Bible, as being Jesus's words and philosophy. I love the philosophy of Jesus and it's very hard to live a Christ-like life.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

Atheists simply choose to say they don’t believe in God. They don’t get any say in how other people feel about God, including God’s existence, or the personal relationship a person may choose to have via their religious beliefs, with God.

Your personal feelings about God do not impact anyone else’s regarding the existence of God.

Your atheism is how you view the world for you- not the rest of us.

Here you go straw manning again, arguing against positions no one has made.

The facts are you have it exactly backwards, and it is the religious that preach what will happen if we don’t believe, and the nonreligious that simply say what they believe, which is that there isn’t compelling evidence for a God but if you show us some, we will change our position.

What would make you change your position?

What is your faith that God does not exist based on?

DP It's not faith. It's lack of evidence

Plenty of people see evidence of God.

There are no scientific tests or measures to prove or disprove God’s existence.

Why can’t the original pp answer?

I remember a line in Angels and Demons, the movie. A priest asks Tom Hanks's character "Do you believe in God?" And he says something like "No, father, that's a gift I never received." (or something pretty close to that). It always fascinates me how some people are susceptible to this belief (and can abandon common sense) and some just aren't. I wonder if it's genetic. Some people may have the "believer gene" and some just don't."

Tom Hank’s movies are indeed incredible. Basing life choices off of lines written for Tom Hanks, by screenwriters, for Hanks to speak, to make money, is just amazing, friend.

Whether or not God exists cannot be definitely proven. If you don’t believe, that’s your choice, but your disbelief doesn’t negate anyone else’s belief, and vice versa.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

Atheists simply choose to say they don’t believe in God. They don’t get any say in how other people feel about God, including God’s existence, or the personal relationship a person may choose to have via their religious beliefs, with God.

Your personal feelings about God do not impact anyone else’s regarding the existence of God.

Your atheism is how you view the world for you- not the rest of us.

Here you go straw manning again, arguing against positions no one has made.

The facts are you have it exactly backwards, and it is the religious that preach what will happen if we don’t believe, and the nonreligious that simply say what they believe, which is that there isn’t compelling evidence for a God but if you show us some, we will change our position.

What would make you change your position?

What is your faith that God does not exist based on?

DP It's not faith. It's lack of evidence

Plenty of people see evidence of God.

There are no scientific tests or measures to prove or disprove God’s existence.

Why can’t the original pp answer?

I remember a line in Angels and Demons, the movie. A priest asks Tom Hanks's character "Do you believe in God?" And he says something like "No, father, that's a gift I never received." (or something pretty close to that). It always fascinates me how some people are susceptible to this belief (and can abandon common sense) and some just aren't. I wonder if it's genetic. Some people may have the "believer gene" and some just don't."

Tom Hank’s movies are indeed incredible. Basing life choices off of lines written for Tom Hanks, by screenwriters, for Hanks to speak, to make money, is just amazing, friend.

Whether or not God exists cannot be definitely proven. If you don’t believe, that’s your choice, but your disbelief doesn’t negate anyone else’s belief, and vice versa.

I agree. Is anyone here disagreeing with that?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a cop out answer, OP. Easier than offering you help in ways that might give you more time to go to therapy, exercise, et al. She could make a few healthy meals and drop off, or watch your kids for a few hours.

Do you really believe that a few healthy meals can help with clinical depression? OP said she has been in therapy for years. Few more sessions will not make a difference.

And finding Jesus will make a difference?

Some people continue learning from therapy and should not drop it because of a stranger on the internet or a friend pushing a religious cure.

Yes. Finding Jesus does make a difference. Bonus - it costs way less than any therapy!

You are part of the problem.

You are funny. OP's problem don't come from people who live happy and content life. OP's problems come from people like you who convinced that living with depression is normal. Your soul is like a jar, it cannot remain empty. If you don't fill it in with a light, it will be filled with a darkness. And to fill it with the light, you have to take action. The good thing is that OP has the choice of how to fill it.

I sort of agree with that. If all the therapists and medications and treatments have failed? If you have struggled with depression your entire life, tried every possible treatment and multiple medications, had many different psychiatric interventions, and modern treatments and medications have failed you?

You can’t just stay in the dark of depression your entire life. Try something different. You have to try, for yourself and your loved ones.

It’s gross to suggest a person suffers for decades and dies in mental agony and doesn’t try to live a better quality of life for their own happiness.

So, what the hell, OP-- try religion. and if that doesn't work, too bad - Christians will tell you that you just need to keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are speaking for Christians in the absence of the need to do so. I have two suggestions, that either your parents either neglected to teach you, or you were taught, but refuse to abide by:

1. Don’t generalize, especially about people, especially about their deeply held, deeply personal beliefs

2. Don’t speak for a person, or group of people. Let people speak for themselves.

I choose to believe your parents taught you these lessons, and you just need a simple reminder to implement them to be a kind, socially responsible citizen.

No simple reminder needed. Just keep trying to believe and Jesus eventually will save you.

You are toxic. You speak for Christianity when you are not a Christian. You think I need your permission to worship Jesus and His Salvation is a joke? Why do you care how I or anyone else conducts their worship and faith in America- a place founded on complete religious freedom?

There are so many toxic posters here who cannot accept religious freedom is a huge part of being an American. It’s good we can worship as we wish. It makes us the envy of the world.

I believe Americans who are so un-American as to not believe in freedom of religion and do not tolerate freedom of religion should either learn to be respectful of our laws and values and morals, or find a new home in a country that limits the expression and freedom of religion, so they can live peaceful and happy lives.

Google the countries that restrict religion and religious practices and go there…you won’t have to live in a country with religious freedom. It would be better than spending your life obsessively watching religious people, telling religious people their faith is wrong, and speaking for the Christianity you despise so deeply.

It’s very sad to live your life hating something (Christianity) so much. It will be very hard for you your entire life, because religious freedom is not going away. We will continue to worship, pray, speak about our faith, and shine brightly as lights representing God in our communities.

As the saying goes, sucks to be you, but I’d never say that to you seriously. I believe your anger and obsessive hostility and venom against Christianity and Christians comes from irrational fear, self-loathing, and hatred for yourself. No one can hate other people without cause without self-hatred.

So when you post such uncalled for and hateful things, I know it’s coming from a bitter and angry and scared place of self-hatred. Prayers to you. Jesus will save you, too.

Wow - talk about anger and hostility! Two simple sentences encouraging belief inspire paragraphs of attack language. It's so unlike Christ that it's hard to believe an actual Christian would say such things.

You aren’t serious, just trolling because looking in the mirror hurts.

pp must not be a good Christian. A good Christian would not say such hateful things. Even to a stranger on the Internet.

There are no good Christians.

You are a hateful and bigoted anti-theist. An atheist simply doesn’t believe or care about religion or God. Anti-theists actively and obsessively hate religion, religious people, etc.

So tell me, are there good Jewish people? Good Muslim people? Are any religious people good?

That’s not a real post and you know it. Don’t feed the trolls.

I see many posts here claiming that religion, religious people, Christianity specifically, is bad. That Christianity and Christians are mean and harmful to people and for America.

Despite America being founded on absolute freedom to worship however an American desires. Despite every American president coming from a Christian faith tradition; despite the majority of our current elected officials professing a Christian faith, and publicly expressing their Christian belief and attending church, as President Biden and his wife and family do.

If you do not like Christianity, pp, and you think there are no good Christians, there are countries that limit the practice of Christianity and in which being a Christian is severely restricted.


Global Restrictions on Religion


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2009/12/restrictions-fullreport1-1.pdf

Pew has a comprehensive reporting on this very topic.

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If you are an American that is an anti-theist, and actively dislikes religion, opposes the free exercise of religion and believes religion is harmful, you have places to flee to.

If you want to live in a country that represents your thoughts on restricting religion, Pew shows you who you identify with and what government you would feel comfortable living under.

Straw man yet again. Yes, many negative things about religion are mentioned here, as they should be. But no one has claimed all religious people are bad so stop saying that. And as for wanting a country that restricts religion, the constitution has spoken on that.

There just isn’t compelling evidence a god exists. That’s the entire atheist position. Don’t ascribe any more to it. And try and spot those troll posts before you reply to them. They are not real.

Atheists simply choose to say they don’t believe in God. They don’t get any say in how other people feel about God, including God’s existence, or the personal relationship a person may choose to have via their religious beliefs, with God.

Your personal feelings about God do not impact anyone else’s regarding the existence of God.

Your atheism is how you view the world for you- not the rest of us.

Here you go straw manning again, arguing against positions no one has made.

The facts are you have it exactly backwards, and it is the religious that preach what will happen if we don’t believe, and the nonreligious that simply say what they believe, which is that there isn’t compelling evidence for a God but if you show us some, we will change our position.

What would make you change your position?

What is your faith that God does not exist based on?

DP It's not faith. It's lack of evidence

Plenty of people see evidence of God.

There are no scientific tests or measures to prove or disprove God’s existence.

Why can’t the original pp answer?

I remember a line in Angels and Demons, the movie. A priest asks Tom Hanks's character "Do you believe in God?" And he says something like "No, father, that's a gift I never received." (or something pretty close to that). It always fascinates me how some people are susceptible to this belief (and can abandon common sense) and some just aren't. I wonder if it's genetic. Some people may have the "believer gene" and some just don't."

Tom Hank’s movies are indeed incredible. Basing life choices off of lines written for Tom Hanks, by screenwriters, for Hanks to speak, to make money, is just amazing, friend.

Whether or not God exists cannot be definitely proven. If you don’t believe, that’s your choice, but your disbelief doesn’t negate anyone else’s belief, and vice versa.

I agree. Is anyone here disagreeing with that?

Let’s see:

It’s possible God exists, and atheists and anti-theists are wrong.

It’s possible God doesn’t exist, and Christians are wrong.

No scientific data exists to prove or disprove the existence of God.

Science doesn't have the processes to prove or disprove the existence of God.

Each person, regardless of opinion about God, has the right to express their opinion.

Atheists and anti-theists do not have to attend church, read the bible, or participate in religion.

Christians have the right to worship as they wish.

Is this acceptable?