TJ Discrimination Case

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Anonymous wrote:Curie posted first and last names on their Facebook page. (Since removed.)

They had about 50 kids admitted for the class of 2022, 80 for the class of 2023 and 136 for the class of 2024.

There was discussion in the TJ Vents FB group from 2020 among kids stating that they had seen the test ahead of time. There are also some non-public group chats that are pretty shocking.

I remember seeing a piece about rampant cheating on the local news. It's so disgusting!

[Anonymous]

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It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

California passed prop 209 banning affirmative action. The legislature tried to bring it back, and this was blocked by some Asian members. In retaliation, some black members started blocking bills by the Asians.

Republicans in the US Senate brought an amendment to ban giving federal funds to colleges that discriminate against Asians. Every Democratic Senator voted no.

By discriminate you mean giving all people a fair chance?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Curie posted first and last names on their Facebook page. (Since removed.)

They had about 50 kids admitted for the class of 2022, 80 for the class of 2023 and 136 for the class of 2024.

There was discussion in the TJ Vents FB group from 2020 among kids stating that they had seen the test ahead of time. There are also some non-public group chats that are pretty shocking.

I remember seeing a piece about rampant cheating on the local news. It's so disgusting!

#fakenews

[Anonymous]

If there was even a chance that there were “irregularities” Youngkin and his Hispanic Affirmative Action AG would be all over it..

[Anonymous]

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It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

California passed prop 209 banning affirmative action. The legislature tried to bring it back, and this was blocked by some Asian members. In retaliation, some black members started blocking bills by the Asians.

Republicans in the US Senate brought an amendment to ban giving federal funds to colleges that discriminate against Asians. Every Democratic Senator voted no.

By discriminate you mean giving all people a fair chance?

No. Discriminating as in illegal and unconstitutional acts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

[Anonymous]

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It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

California passed prop 209 banning affirmative action. The legislature tried to bring it back, and this was blocked by some Asian members. In retaliation, some black members started blocking bills by the Asians.

Republicans in the US Senate brought an amendment to ban giving federal funds to colleges that discriminate against Asians. Every Democratic Senator voted no.

By discriminate you mean giving all people a fair chance?

No. Discriminating as in illegal and unconstitutional acts.

If it's illegal and unconstitutional, then no law is needed, but I'm sure you know better

https://www.theonion.com/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-consti-1819571149

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

California passed prop 209 banning affirmative action. The legislature tried to bring it back, and this was blocked by some Asian members. In retaliation, some black members started blocking bills by the Asians.

Republicans in the US Senate brought an amendment to ban giving federal funds to colleges that discriminate against Asians. Every Democratic Senator voted no.

By discriminate you mean giving all people a fair chance?

No. Discriminating as in illegal and unconstitutional acts.

Had it been possible to reasonably interpret the new admissions process as "illegal and unconstitutional" in any way, it's safe to assume that today's rabidly conservative Supreme Court would have jumped at the chance to affirm Claude Hilton's embarrassing District Court ruling when they had the opportunity to in April.

Spoiler alert: they didn't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

California passed prop 209 banning affirmative action. The legislature tried to bring it back, and this was blocked by some Asian members. In retaliation, some black members started blocking bills by the Asians.

Republicans in the US Senate brought an amendment to ban giving federal funds to colleges that discriminate against Asians. Every Democratic Senator voted no.

By discriminate you mean giving all people a fair chance?

No. Discriminating as in illegal and unconstitutional acts.

Had it been possible to reasonably interpret the new admissions process as "illegal and unconstitutional" in any way, it's safe to assume that today's rabidly conservative Supreme Court would have jumped at the chance to affirm Claude Hilton's embarrassing District Court ruling when they had the opportunity to in April.

Spoiler alert: they didn't.

BINGO@!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

California passed prop 209 banning affirmative action. The legislature tried to bring it back, and this was blocked by some Asian members. In retaliation, some black members started blocking bills by the Asians.

Republicans in the US Senate brought an amendment to ban giving federal funds to colleges that discriminate against Asians. Every Democratic Senator voted no.

By discriminate you mean giving all people a fair chance?

No. Discriminating as in illegal and unconstitutional acts.

Had it been possible to reasonably interpret the new admissions process as "illegal and unconstitutional" in any way, it's safe to assume that today's rabidly conservative Supreme Court would have jumped at the chance to affirm Claude Hilton's embarrassing District Court ruling when they had the opportunity to in April.

Spoiler alert: they didn't.

BINGO@!!

Someone knows nothing about appellate procedures. It’s OK; you and the unicorn guy now have something in common.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

California passed prop 209 banning affirmative action. The legislature tried to bring it back, and this was blocked by some Asian members. In retaliation, some black members started blocking bills by the Asians.

Republicans in the US Senate brought an amendment to ban giving federal funds to colleges that discriminate against Asians. Every Democratic Senator voted no.

By discriminate you mean giving all people a fair chance?

No. Discriminating as in illegal and unconstitutional acts.

Had it been possible to reasonably interpret the new admissions process as "illegal and unconstitutional" in any way, it's safe to assume that today's rabidly conservative Supreme Court would have jumped at the chance to affirm Claude Hilton's embarrassing District Court ruling when they had the opportunity to in April.

Spoiler alert: they didn't.

Ummm . . . you clearly don't know Civil Procedure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

The scandal that prompted the board reforms was that kids were encouraged to memorize exam questions and report them back to Curie. Curie would teach the next group of kids, including the memorized questions from the previous year. This provided Curie with a copy of past exams, which would allow them to teach their students how to prepare for the specific types of questions asked on the exam.

Students and parents sign non-disclosure agreements where they agree not to discuss the test or test questions with anyone else. By memorizing and reporting the questions, the students violated that agreement. By teaching new students using those questions, Curie provided those students with a leg up on the exam because the students had already practiced the questions.

Happens all the time. At least the parents didn't bribe school officials or pay people to take the test or change the scores like many others did.

They bought their kids' early access to gain an advantage. Many complain about the changes, but it comes down to the fact that they could game admissions, and they miss it.

Your constant demonization of "they" is going to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass next year.

These clowns have mismanaged the schools for many years but somehow they think they'll regain support if they throw Asian kids under the bus and toss out TJ seats like candy to less qualified kids at schools with weak peer groups.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about TJ, but Asians live all over the county with kids at many schools and they've heard about the ugly bigots like Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Keys Gamarra.

This again. Stop it, no Asian is going to abandon everything else they stand for and suddenly support Youngkin and his clan over TJ.

I will - this whole TJ debacle turned me into a bitter single issue Asian American voter. My aim is to punish Democrats at all future elections starting in this November by voting all Republicans and actively campaigning against all Democrats running in my district by trying to convince all of my friends, neighbors and relatives. I regret having voted Democrats all my life.

Can't tell if PP is actually an insane person or is just making fun of the insanity that would be necessary to abandon all common sense to vote for a party that will promise to protect a very small number of spaces at an elite school but will in fact do nothing of the sort.

It's more than just TJ, discrimination against Asians in college admissions, lack of adequate representation in many aspects of society by Asians and Dems only harping about 1 area to whine about 'over-representations at elite colleges while ignoring under-representation of Asians in many other areas, systematic murdering of Asians in many blue cities and refusal to bring hate crimes charges by woke Democratic DAs, refusal to cover or even acknowledge bl### on Asian hate crime wave that has been going on for over 2 years by liberal media, pandering to other preferred group while crapping all over Asians, crazy out of control wokeness, trans policy etc. etc.

Someone got mad about TJ and started watching Fox News, and has since lost all grip on reality. It's kind of sad and embarrassing watching this happen.

People don’t like being stereotyped and discriminated against. Is that somehow shocking?

It's not, but in this instance Asians are neither being stereotyped nor discriminated against. A process is being removed that was demonstrably favorable to them. Those two things aren't the same.

Now, they are stereotyped relentlessly on this board - frequently by their own people. But that's not the same as a government entity doing it.

An example of Asians being stereotyped by a government entity would be TJ's former principal getting escorted out the door for essentially claiming that TJ's cheating problem was attributable to the high-pressure environment within the Asian community. THAT's stereotyping.

The casual and overt racist racism on this board is part of it. Racist comments about black people is met with a righteous fury, as it should. Racist comments and stereotypes against Asians? Whatever. Many Democrats turn a blind eye. Good luck getting people to care.

We see the double standards, and what gets said on this board is a microcosm of the general pulse of the Democratic party. Democrats just don't care about Asians.

TJ is not an isolated incident. Magnet schools across the country are being reformed for equity reasons, and racism against Asians has reared its ugly head in places, San Francisco being the shining example. But even with TJ you had people like State Delegate Mark Keam saying Asian-American parents are “using [TJ] to get into Ivy League schools and then go back to their home country,” and Brabrand saying parents engage in "pay to play."

I'm sure you're going to gaslight us on how that's not racist or stereotyping.