Queen of E's funeral fashion

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Anonymous wrote:MM’s hat doesn’t seem seasonally appropriate. ::shrug::

Jill Biden looks completely ridiculous. TF is that stupid headband?

It looks like something she took off a Playboy bunny.


Really? Worse than the flower on Middleton's mother's hat?


They both looked inelegant, IMO. I like Jill but the bow headband looked childish. Carole looked gaudy.

It's funny to remember that the British press used to sneer at Kate/Kate's family bc their money is from their party supply business (even though they have aristocratic backgrounds). Now the whole family can do no wrong bc the press hates Meghan so much.


They do?


Yes. Nothing direct or anything, but Carole is a distant relative of the Queen Mother and Michael is descended from some Baroness. It's not where their money comes from, though.


Pretty weak sauce.
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Kate's dress and hat were more appropriate for the occasion. She (or her team?) has impeccable taste.


Kate looks perfect, as usual. I don't care for MM's hat. It looks like like a sun hat for the beach. But hats are hard to pull off or most, especially Americans that aren't used to buying and wearing them formally. Her dress is fine, but did she not keep the cape on? Someone mentioned bare arms..

The cape is part of the dress — she didn’t take it off. The “bare arms” squeals came from the forearms peeking from under the cape. More ridiculous headlines used against MM and no one else (similar to the OMG! They’re holding hands!! cry).


I made the bare arms comment. I didn’t see it criticized in the press. I just prefer arms covered at funerals and other solemn events. I don’t think she looks trashy, I was just making a comment about her fashion choice. I’m also one of those people who thinks women should only wear closed-toe shoes to the office. It’s just an opinion.


Carole Middleton wore 3/4 length sleeves that showed about the same amount of bare arm and I haven't seen anyone comment negatively on that. I agree that people should be fairly covered up at a funeral (no low necklines or short skirts, it's just distracting) but I feel that MM's dress was very covered up. It's not like she was wearing a sleeveless shift -- it's just that her forearms peak out of the cape part of the dress. Which presumably is why she also wore gloves.

I am also tired of everyone comparing MM to Kate as though they are in the same position and Kate just magically dressed better for the occasion. They are not. Kate is married to the heir to the throne and is a working royal -- her attire was almost certainly decided and made for her well in advance of this funeral and her look composed to look a very specific way. For instance, I would bet that the Queen likely specified what jewelry she would like Kate to wear to the funeral, which then dictated the rest of her outfit which was designed to show them off. Not kidding. Kate is very ensconced in the system of the RF and this funeral was planned to proceed and look perfect and she was part of that.

Meghan is just Harry's wife, doesn't even live in London, is not a working royal. She had to have a dress ordered quickly for the funeral, as well as all the other clothes she needed for the week's events. It's unsurprising that she wound up in a hat that was a bit light and summery for the event (it was a black version of one she's worn before by the same London designer who always makes her hats). Also not surprising that her dress wasn't just spot on perfect for the event like Kate's was -- again, she just had a black version of a dress she'd previously worn from a British designer she was familiar with who presumably could get it to her quickly. The fact that it's a simple dress and they'd made it for her before likely made it easier.

Could Meghan have looked more perfect with a bit more time and effort. Sure. But that's not how funerals work. She is not sitting around preparing for the Queen's funeral, which is literally one of the things Kate has been doing (not in a morbid way, but succession is just a fact of the RF and the queen was very old). She also does not spend her days going to royal events like other people at the wedding, and therefore does not have clothes in rotation or a dressmaker on call who could put something together quickly.

Kate and Meghan are not equals, but people like to treat them that way when they want to make a negative comparison (of either of them! this works both ways because it's about misogyny and criticizing women) because it's easy. Stop comparing them! They are in different situations with different expectations and different resources. They both acquitted themselves very well over the last week. That should be enough.
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Kate's dress and hat were more appropriate for the occasion. She (or her team?) has impeccable taste.


Kate looks perfect, as usual. I don't care for MM's hat. It looks like like a sun hat for the beach. But hats are hard to pull off or most, especially Americans that aren't used to buying and wearing them formally. Her dress is fine, but did she not keep the cape on? Someone mentioned bare arms..

The cape is part of the dress — she didn’t take it off. The “bare arms” squeals came from the forearms peeking from under the cape. More ridiculous headlines used against MM and no one else (similar to the OMG! They’re holding hands!! cry).


I made the bare arms comment. I didn’t see it criticized in the press. I just prefer arms covered at funerals and other solemn events. I don’t think she looks trashy, I was just making a comment about her fashion choice. I’m also one of those people who thinks women should only wear closed-toe shoes to the office. It’s just an opinion.


Carole Middleton wore 3/4 length sleeves that showed about the same amount of bare arm and I haven't seen anyone comment negatively on that. I agree that people should be fairly covered up at a funeral (no low necklines or short skirts, it's just distracting) but I feel that MM's dress was very covered up. It's not like she was wearing a sleeveless shift -- it's just that her forearms peak out of the cape part of the dress. Which presumably is why she also wore gloves.

I am also tired of everyone comparing MM to Kate as though they are in the same position and Kate just magically dressed better for the occasion. They are not. Kate is married to the heir to the throne and is a working royal -- her attire was almost certainly decided and made for her well in advance of this funeral and her look composed to look a very specific way. For instance, I would bet that the Queen likely specified what jewelry she would like Kate to wear to the funeral, which then dictated the rest of her outfit which was designed to show them off. Not kidding. Kate is very ensconced in the system of the RF and this funeral was planned to proceed and look perfect and she was part of that.

Meghan is just Harry's wife, doesn't even live in London, is not a working royal. She had to have a dress ordered quickly for the funeral, as well as all the other clothes she needed for the week's events. It's unsurprising that she wound up in a hat that was a bit light and summery for the event (it was a black version of one she's worn before by the same London designer who always makes her hats). Also not surprising that her dress wasn't just spot on perfect for the event like Kate's was -- again, she just had a black version of a dress she'd previously worn from a British designer she was familiar with who presumably could get it to her quickly. The fact that it's a simple dress and they'd made it for her before likely made it easier.

Could Meghan have looked more perfect with a bit more time and effort. Sure. But that's not how funerals work. She is not sitting around preparing for the Queen's funeral, which is literally one of the things Kate has been doing (not in a morbid way, but succession is just a fact of the RF and the queen was very old). She also does not spend her days going to royal events like other people at the wedding, and therefore does not have clothes in rotation or a dressmaker on call who could put something together quickly.

Kate and Meghan are not equals, but people like to treat them that way when they want to make a negative comparison (of either of them! this works both ways because it's about misogyny and criticizing women) because it's easy. Stop comparing them! They are in different situations with different expectations and different resources. They both acquitted themselves very well over the last week. That should be enough.



But I thought this was a thread about fashion, not meghalomania!
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Kate's dress and hat were more appropriate for the occasion. She (or her team?) has impeccable taste.


Kate looks perfect, as usual. I don't care for MM's hat. It looks like like a sun hat for the beach. But hats are hard to pull off or most, especially Americans that aren't used to buying and wearing them formally. Her dress is fine, but did she not keep the cape on? Someone mentioned bare arms..

The cape is part of the dress — she didn’t take it off. The “bare arms” squeals came from the forearms peeking from under the cape. More ridiculous headlines used against MM and no one else (similar to the OMG! They’re holding hands!! cry).


I made the bare arms comment. I didn’t see it criticized in the press. I just prefer arms covered at funerals and other solemn events. I don’t think she looks trashy, I was just making a comment about her fashion choice. I’m also one of those people who thinks women should only wear closed-toe shoes to the office. It’s just an opinion.


Carole Middleton wore 3/4 length sleeves that showed about the same amount of bare arm and I haven't seen anyone comment negatively on that. I agree that people should be fairly covered up at a funeral (no low necklines or short skirts, it's just distracting) but I feel that MM's dress was very covered up. It's not like she was wearing a sleeveless shift -- it's just that her forearms peak out of the cape part of the dress. Which presumably is why she also wore gloves.

I am also tired of everyone comparing MM to Kate as though they are in the same position and Kate just magically dressed better for the occasion. They are not. Kate is married to the heir to the throne and is a working royal -- her attire was almost certainly decided and made for her well in advance of this funeral and her look composed to look a very specific way. For instance, I would bet that the Queen likely specified what jewelry she would like Kate to wear to the funeral, which then dictated the rest of her outfit which was designed to show them off. Not kidding. Kate is very ensconced in the system of the RF and this funeral was planned to proceed and look perfect and she was part of that.

Meghan is just Harry's wife, doesn't even live in London, is not a working royal. She had to have a dress ordered quickly for the funeral, as well as all the other clothes she needed for the week's events. It's unsurprising that she wound up in a hat that was a bit light and summery for the event (it was a black version of one she's worn before by the same London designer who always makes her hats). Also not surprising that her dress wasn't just spot on perfect for the event like Kate's was -- again, she just had a black version of a dress she'd previously worn from a British designer she was familiar with who presumably could get it to her quickly. The fact that it's a simple dress and they'd made it for her before likely made it easier.

Could Meghan have looked more perfect with a bit more time and effort. Sure. But that's not how funerals work. She is not sitting around preparing for the Queen's funeral, which is literally one of the things Kate has been doing (not in a morbid way, but succession is just a fact of the RF and the queen was very old). She also does not spend her days going to royal events like other people at the wedding, and therefore does not have clothes in rotation or a dressmaker on call who could put something together quickly.

Kate and Meghan are not equals, but people like to treat them that way when they want to make a negative comparison (of either of them! this works both ways because it's about misogyny and criticizing women) because it's easy. Stop comparing them! They are in different situations with different expectations and different resources. They both acquitted themselves very well over the last week. That should be enough.


I just made a comment about Meghan’s arms. I didn’t even mention Kate. I’m not going to review each guest for their sleeve length to ensure I make the same comment about everyone. Relax.
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Anonymous wrote:I always feel like a lot of the attendees at these royal family events look tacky and ridiculous. Especially the Americans, but plenty of the Brits as well -- people just seem to struggle with the "protocols" while still wanting to wear something eye-catching and interesting and most people fail, to be honest. Like look at Fergie and Beatrice:



Fergie's suit is too tight and totally the wrong shape for her body. Her hat looks silly and small (almost everyone who opts for these little fascinators instead of a proper hat looks silly, IMO, especially at a solemn occasion instead of a wedding). The gloves and sheer hose, which could look classy and traditional if she'd worn a more simple dress in an a-line with less fussiness, instead look twee and unfashionable.

Beatrice does better but her insistence on wearing her hair down looks sloppy -- her hat would look much better if she'd done a smooth updo like her mom. Her outfit is still too fussy for the occasion (lace pleat insets AND gold buttons? come on -- it is a FUNERAL).

Everyone is praising Kate for nailing it, which she did, but also -- it's not that hard! Wear clothes that actually fit and don't make you look like a sausage in a casing. Opt for simple and classic over adorned and complicated. Get your hear done and tame fly-aways. Since you are wearing a hat which is not something women almost every do other than at these events, keep it simple and classic and make sure it is the proper size and shape for your head. Yes, this would be a tall order for a random American, but these people are actual royalty. Whyyyyyy have the not figured it out yet? This assignment was especially easy because (1) you had lots of time to plan, (2) the color scheme was very simple, and (3) no one was going to criticize you for going to plain and simple on this one. And yet so many of them screwed it up. It's amazing.


Isn't there a rule for keeping skirts below knees for funerals? Not that dead person cares but just to honor the somber occasion?
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Can we talk about how much CPB, Dr.JB and BM all look alike???
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Anonymous wrote:MM’s hat doesn’t seem seasonally appropriate. ::shrug::

Jill Biden looks completely ridiculous. TF is that stupid headband?

It looks like something she took off a Playboy bunny.


Really? Worse than the flower on Middleton's mother's hat?


They both looked inelegant, IMO. I like Jill but the bow headband looked childish. Carole looked gaudy.

It's funny to remember that the British press used to sneer at Kate/Kate's family bc their money is from their party supply business (even though they have aristocratic backgrounds). Now the whole family can do no wrong bc the press hates Meghan so much.


Kate and William have been a couple for 20 years. Kate kept her head down- as did her family, other than her Uncle Gary- and they were eventually accepted. Long before MM came on the scene. It was wrong the way Kate was treated too, but don’t tie her acceptance to MM. It’s incorrect and it also discounts everything that Kate did since marrying into the royal family.


You have to give it to Middleton and her family, they've been nothing but compliant of written and unwritten rules. Her acceptance has nothing to do with MM.
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Anonymous wrote:I always feel like a lot of the attendees at these royal family events look tacky and ridiculous. Especially the Americans, but plenty of the Brits as well -- people just seem to struggle with the "protocols" while still wanting to wear something eye-catching and interesting and most people fail, to be honest. Like look at Fergie and Beatrice:



Fergie's suit is too tight and totally the wrong shape for her body. Her hat looks silly and small (almost everyone who opts for these little fascinators instead of a proper hat looks silly, IMO, especially at a solemn occasion instead of a wedding). The gloves and sheer hose, which could look classy and traditional if she'd worn a more simple dress in an a-line with less fussiness, instead look twee and unfashionable.

Beatrice does better but her insistence on wearing her hair down looks sloppy -- her hat would look much better if she'd done a smooth updo like her mom. Her outfit is still too fussy for the occasion (lace pleat insets AND gold buttons? come on -- it is a FUNERAL).

Everyone is praising Kate for nailing it, which she did, but also -- it's not that hard! Wear clothes that actually fit and don't make you look like a sausage in a casing. Opt for simple and classic over adorned and complicated. Get your hear done and tame fly-aways. Since you are wearing a hat which is not something women almost every do other than at these events, keep it simple and classic and make sure it is the proper size and shape for your head. Yes, this would be a tall order for a random American, but these people are actual royalty. Whyyyyyy have the not figured it out yet? This assignment was especially easy because (1) you had lots of time to plan, (2) the color scheme was very simple, and (3) no one was going to criticize you for going to plain and simple on this one. And yet so many of them screwed it up. It's amazing.


Isn't there a rule for keeping skirts below knees for funerals? Not that dead person cares but just to honor the somber occasion?


Apparently, a veil is customary as well

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/fashion/celebrity/a41276792/black-veil-royal-funeral/

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/kate-middleton-meghan-markle-queen-funeral-outfits-b2166827.html

Except that MM and BM did not wear veils
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Anonymous wrote:The most ridiculous thing was Jill’s black headband.


I thought that was the best!


Jill looks amazing. It's great to see a woman in her 70s in such great shape.
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Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about how much CPB, Dr.JB and BM all look alike???


BM = Brigitte Macron
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MMs brimmed hats are usually too floppy looking. The one she wore for the funeral was no exception. And I am not sure why she thinks the very high crew neck is flattering on her. It isn't and she wears that neckline a lot.

I think the Jill headband issue is that it was very thin as if it was a little girls headband. Maybe of she would have worn her hair up and had a thicker heavier looking headband she would have looked better. I didnt mind that dress, it was a safe choice.

Queen Letizia always looks great. She went for a very simple outfit.
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Anonymous wrote:I always feel like a lot of the attendees at these royal family events look tacky and ridiculous. Especially the Americans, but plenty of the Brits as well -- people just seem to struggle with the "protocols" while still wanting to wear something eye-catching and interesting and most people fail, to be honest. Like look at Fergie and Beatrice:



Fergie's suit is too tight and totally the wrong shape for her body. Her hat looks silly and small (almost everyone who opts for these little fascinators instead of a proper hat looks silly, IMO, especially at a solemn occasion instead of a wedding). The gloves and sheer hose, which could look classy and traditional if she'd worn a more simple dress in an a-line with less fussiness, instead look twee and unfashionable.

Beatrice does better but her insistence on wearing her hair down looks sloppy -- her hat would look much better if she'd done a smooth updo like her mom. Her outfit is still too fussy for the occasion (lace pleat insets AND gold buttons? come on -- it is a FUNERAL).

Everyone is praising Kate for nailing it, which she did, but also -- it's not that hard! Wear clothes that actually fit and don't make you look like a sausage in a casing. Opt for simple and classic over adorned and complicated. Get your hear done and tame fly-aways. Since you are wearing a hat which is not something women almost every do other than at these events, keep it simple and classic and make sure it is the proper size and shape for your head. Yes, this would be a tall order for a random American, but these people are actual royalty. Whyyyyyy have the not figured it out yet? This assignment was especially easy because (1) you had lots of time to plan, (2) the color scheme was very simple, and (3) no one was going to criticize you for going to plain and simple on this one. And yet so many of them screwed it up. It's amazing.


Isn't there a rule for keeping skirts below knees for funerals? Not that dead person cares but just to honor the somber occasion?


Apparently, a veil is customary as well

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/fashion/celebrity/a41276792/black-veil-royal-funeral/

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/kate-middleton-meghan-markle-queen-funeral-outfits-b2166827.html

Except that MM and BM did not wear veils


BM = HRH Princess Beatrice, Mrs Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi
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Kate's dress and hat were more appropriate for the occasion. She (or her team?) has impeccable taste.


Kate looks perfect, as usual. I don't care for MM's hat. It looks like like a sun hat for the beach. But hats are hard to pull off or most, especially Americans that aren't used to buying and wearing them formally. Her dress is fine, but did she not keep the cape on? Someone mentioned bare arms..

The cape is part of the dress — she didn’t take it off. The “bare arms” squeals came from the forearms peeking from under the cape. More ridiculous headlines used against MM and no one else (similar to the OMG! They’re holding hands!! cry).


I made the bare arms comment. I didn’t see it criticized in the press. I just prefer arms covered at funerals and other solemn events. I don’t think she looks trashy, I was just making a comment about her fashion choice. I’m also one of those people who thinks women should only wear closed-toe shoes to the office. It’s just an opinion.


Carole Middleton wore 3/4 length sleeves that showed about the same amount of bare arm and I haven't seen anyone comment negatively on that. I agree that people should be fairly covered up at a funeral (no low necklines or short skirts, it's just distracting) but I feel that MM's dress was very covered up. It's not like she was wearing a sleeveless shift -- it's just that her forearms peak out of the cape part of the dress. Which presumably is why she also wore gloves.

I am also tired of everyone comparing MM to Kate as though they are in the same position and Kate just magically dressed better for the occasion. They are not. Kate is married to the heir to the throne and is a working royal -- her attire was almost certainly decided and made for her well in advance of this funeral and her look composed to look a very specific way. For instance, I would bet that the Queen likely specified what jewelry she would like Kate to wear to the funeral, which then dictated the rest of her outfit which was designed to show them off. Not kidding. Kate is very ensconced in the system of the RF and this funeral was planned to proceed and look perfect and she was part of that.

Meghan is just Harry's wife, doesn't even live in London, is not a working royal. She had to have a dress ordered quickly for the funeral, as well as all the other clothes she needed for the week's events. It's unsurprising that she wound up in a hat that was a bit light and summery for the event (it was a black version of one she's worn before by the same London designer who always makes her hats). Also not surprising that her dress wasn't just spot on perfect for the event like Kate's was -- again, she just had a black version of a dress she'd previously worn from a British designer she was familiar with who presumably could get it to her quickly. The fact that it's a simple dress and they'd made it for her before likely made it easier.

Could Meghan have looked more perfect with a bit more time and effort. Sure. But that's not how funerals work. She is not sitting around preparing for the Queen's funeral, which is literally one of the things Kate has been doing (not in a morbid way, but succession is just a fact of the RF and the queen was very old). She also does not spend her days going to royal events like other people at the wedding, and therefore does not have clothes in rotation or a dressmaker on call who could put something together quickly.

Kate and Meghan are not equals, but people like to treat them that way when they want to make a negative comparison (of either of them! this works both ways because it's about misogyny and criticizing women) because it's easy. Stop comparing them! They are in different situations with different expectations and different resources. They both acquitted themselves very well over the last week. That should be enough.


I just made a comment about Meghan’s arms. I didn’t even mention Kate. I’m not going to review each guest for their sleeve length to ensure I make the same comment about everyone. Relax.


Fine. I’m glad Kate’s sleeves wore long both because it was appropriate to the occasion, and because it covered the multi-strand pearl bracelet that she wore and that I didn’t particularly care for. Happy now?
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Anonymous wrote:MM was wearing Stella McCartney. She either has that same dress in navy because she wore it before, or she had the navy one dyed. I doubt she had that many black dresses sitting there in the UK, so I’m sure they made do somehow.



There’s a whole thing on TikTok that she wore same dress in navy for Jubilee with earring the Queen gave her and white hat. Same dress and hat in black with same earrings - supposed to be a tribute to Queen. Haven’t bothered to verify.


WaPo reported that MM wore a black version of a dress she'd worn before, and KM wore a black version of a dress she'd worn before.


MM, who already was in the UK, probably called up Stella McCarthy and asked for a black version of the navy dress she'd worn before. She seemed to be trying to stay in the background, wore minimal jewelry and LOOKED COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE AND FINE. The British tabloids and some PPs here are obsessed with picking on her. And you wonder why she left.

Kate looked great. Kate's mom reminded me of Eliza Doolittle, pre-makeover. Camilla looked fine - I'm getting the sense she and Charles aren't terribly thrilled with having their cozy little lives upended.

I thought Beatrice looked good.



They both look lovely and appropriate to me. I just love Michael.



Carole really suffers from comparison to her daughter, since they are dressed in very similar styles. Kate's coat dress was impeccably tailored while Carole's is to broad in the shoulder. The visible zipper on Carole's also really bugs me -- it just looks tacky and makes you realize the buttons are just decorative. And I can't help but look at that necklace and think it looks cheap (obviously) compared to Kate's choker from the Queen.

I wonder if she intentionally mimicked her daughter's outfit or if this was just an unfortunate accident. I don't think she looks bad and if I saw her ate a funeral I wouldn't criticize, it's just that I see her and immediately think of Kate and she looks worse in comparison.


Both parents have great hair, so you can see why KM inherited that. They are also thin and in shape. Beatrice shaped up after the birth of her baby.
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Kate's dress and hat were more appropriate for the occasion. She (or her team?) has impeccable taste.


Kate looks perfect, as usual. I don't care for MM's hat. It looks like like a sun hat for the beach. But hats are hard to pull off or most, especially Americans that aren't used to buying and wearing them formally. Her dress is fine, but did she not keep the cape on? Someone mentioned bare arms..

The cape is part of the dress — she didn’t take it off. The “bare arms” squeals came from the forearms peeking from under the cape. More ridiculous headlines used against MM and no one else (similar to the OMG! They’re holding hands!! cry).


I made the bare arms comment. I didn’t see it criticized in the press. I just prefer arms covered at funerals and other solemn events. I don’t think she looks trashy, I was just making a comment about her fashion choice. I’m also one of those people who thinks women should only wear closed-toe shoes to the office. It’s just an opinion.


Carole Middleton wore 3/4 length sleeves that showed about the same amount of bare arm and I haven't seen anyone comment negatively on that. I agree that people should be fairly covered up at a funeral (no low necklines or short skirts, it's just distracting) but I feel that MM's dress was very covered up. It's not like she was wearing a sleeveless shift -- it's just that her forearms peak out of the cape part of the dress. Which presumably is why she also wore gloves.

I am also tired of everyone comparing MM to Kate as though they are in the same position and Kate just magically dressed better for the occasion. They are not. Kate is married to the heir to the throne and is a working royal -- her attire was almost certainly decided and made for her well in advance of this funeral and her look composed to look a very specific way. For instance, I would bet that the Queen likely specified what jewelry she would like Kate to wear to the funeral, which then dictated the rest of her outfit which was designed to show them off. Not kidding. Kate is very ensconced in the system of the RF and this funeral was planned to proceed and look perfect and she was part of that.

Meghan is just Harry's wife, doesn't even live in London, is not a working royal. She had to have a dress ordered quickly for the funeral, as well as all the other clothes she needed for the week's events. It's unsurprising that she wound up in a hat that was a bit light and summery for the event (it was a black version of one she's worn before by the same London designer who always makes her hats). Also not surprising that her dress wasn't just spot on perfect for the event like Kate's was -- again, she just had a black version of a dress she'd previously worn from a British designer she was familiar with who presumably could get it to her quickly. The fact that it's a simple dress and they'd made it for her before likely made it easier.

Could Meghan have looked more perfect with a bit more time and effort. Sure. But that's not how funerals work. She is not sitting around preparing for the Queen's funeral, which is literally one of the things Kate has been doing (not in a morbid way, but succession is just a fact of the RF and the queen was very old). She also does not spend her days going to royal events like other people at the wedding, and therefore does not have clothes in rotation or a dressmaker on call who could put something together quickly.

Kate and Meghan are not equals, but people like to treat them that way when they want to make a negative comparison (of either of them! this works both ways because it's about misogyny and criticizing women) because it's easy. Stop comparing them! They are in different situations with different expectations and different resources. They both acquitted themselves very well over the last week. That should be enough.


I just made a comment about Meghan’s arms. I didn’t even mention Kate. I’m not going to review each guest for their sleeve length to ensure I make the same comment about everyone. Relax.


Fine. I’m glad Kate’s sleeves wore long both because it was appropriate to the occasion, and because it covered the multi-strand pearl bracelet that she wore and that I didn’t particularly care for. Happy now?


You are taking this personally for some reason. I just think it's weird that people are criticizing MM's dress for showing too much arm when other people showed the same amount and don't get the criticism. Same with Beatrice and Fergie wearing shorter skirts and no one says anything.

Everything MM does is picked apart to the minutest detail and it's mysterious to me because I thought she looked nice and understated and seemed to be going out of her way not to draw attention to herself, and still people are raking her over the coals. Her hat is too summery, her dress showed too much arm, her makeup is too heavy.

Honestly, she looked better than 90% of the other people there. I don't get the criticism at all. She looked fine. I don't love everything about it but overall I think she did a really good job.
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