4-6th graders FLE all genders together and more

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For the previous question about the video of the naked guy doing the self exam, they proposed to remove it. Check the board docs.
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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.


No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



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I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

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Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.



This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.


Hell no.


In my 15 years of teaching ES FLE, the question(s) I get most often are: how do I insert a tampon? how do I prevent pregnancy? does it hurt to have sex? does it hurt to have a baby? and do I have to have a baby? These are the things girls care about. I can’t say a lot in regards to this, so I doubt IVF and surrogacy will be covered soon.
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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.



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No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



That is a load of crap


Natural embarrassment over intimate things id developmentally appropriate, and a built in way for children to learn to listen to their bodies natural cues including things that might be dangerous or put them at risk


The only people who want to break down these natural barriers of privacy, bodily autonomy and sexuality are weirdos, predators and perverts with an agenda to harm and exploit children.
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Children should be encouraged to learn to listen to their natural inhibitions and inate boundaries with regards to anything that has to do with their hodies and sexuality.

What the eff is wrong with you perverts?
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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.


No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



Stop acting like a predator
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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.


No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



Why? Because an anonymous rando says so? No, thank you.


Because you’re harming your kids. No good comes from having your kids being embarrassed over dumb stuff.


Thank you for explaining your reasoning.

I'm not harming my children by teaching them about private things. We're good.


Ok. Then don’t betch about what FCPS does.


You've got it backwards. Right now, FLE is separated by sex. You are complaining that it shouldn't be. That embarrassment is wrong and backwards.


It hadn’t always been divided. And they are switching back to mixed gender. The only people complaining right now are those with hangups. The rest of us think it’s fine.


It hasn't always been this explicit
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+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.


No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



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I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher


Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.



This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.


The only people for combining elementsry kids are the handful who don't pay attention to anything semt home, the weirdos like the birth control wet dream mom, and the predators who don't have kids and who know nothing about appropriate child development.

Fcps is counting on parents not paying attention.

That is why the school board bumped this topic back from the school year to summer vacation.

It is whay this school board does with all their really, really stupid and their really controversial ideas.
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Anonymous wrote:For the previous question about the video of the naked guy doing the self exam, they proposed to remove it. Check the board docs.


The only reason this weird political school board will remove it will be because they don't want anyone to realize that men have penises, and not because is was wildly inappropriate
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+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.


No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



Stop acting like a predator


Stop teaching your kids that menstruation is something to be ashamed of. WTF is wrong with you?
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+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.


No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



Why? Because an anonymous rando says so? No, thank you.


Because you’re harming your kids. No good comes from having your kids being embarrassed over dumb stuff.


Thank you for explaining your reasoning.

I'm not harming my children by teaching them about private things. We're good.


Ok. Then don’t betch about what FCPS does.


You've got it backwards. Right now, FLE is separated by sex. You are complaining that it shouldn't be. That embarrassment is wrong and backwards.


It hadn’t always been divided. And they are switching back to mixed gender. The only people complaining right now are those with hangups. The rest of us think it’s fine.


It hasn't always been this explicit


We certainly covered body parts, menstruation, and morning wood 30+ years ago. NOT in separate classrooms.
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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.




No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



Why? Because an anonymous rando says so? No, thank you.


Because you’re harming your kids. No good comes from having your kids being embarrassed over dumb stuff.


Thank you for explaining your reasoning.

I'm not harming my children by teaching them about private things. We're good.


Ok. Then don’t betch about what FCPS does.


You've got it backwards. Right now, FLE is separated by sex. You are complaining that it shouldn't be. That embarrassment is wrong and backwards.


It hadn’t always been divided. And they are switching back to mixed gender. The only people complaining right now are those with hangups. The rest of us think it’s fine.


It hasn't always been this explicit


We certainly covered body parts, menstruation, and morning wood 30+ years ago. NOT in separate classrooms.


California doesn't count.

This is Virginia
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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.




No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



Why? Because an anonymous rando says so? No, thank you.


Because you’re harming your kids. No good comes from having your kids being embarrassed over dumb stuff.


Thank you for explaining your reasoning.

I'm not harming my children by teaching them about private things. We're good.


Ok. Then don’t betch about what FCPS does.


You've got it backwards. Right now, FLE is separated by sex. You are complaining that it shouldn't be. That embarrassment is wrong and backwards.


It hadn’t always been divided. And they are switching back to mixed gender. The only people complaining right now are those with hangups. The rest of us think it’s fine.


It hasn't always been this explicit


We certainly covered body parts, menstruation, and morning wood 30+ years ago. NOT in separate classrooms.


California doesn't count.

This is Virginia


+1, while sitting in the gym floor with 50 of my peers - facilitated by my male PE teacher that was missing 3 fingers. Who ended the lesson by asking, “Any questions?” But the tone implied, “No questions.” It wasn’t exactly the premier FCPS education that I kept hearing I was getting in the late 80s.
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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.




No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



Why? Because an anonymous rando says so? No, thank you.


Because you’re harming your kids. No good comes from having your kids being embarrassed over dumb stuff.


Thank you for explaining your reasoning.

I'm not harming my children by teaching them about private things. We're good.


Ok. Then don’t betch about what FCPS does.


You've got it backwards. Right now, FLE is separated by sex. You are complaining that it shouldn't be. That embarrassment is wrong and backwards.


It hadn’t always been divided. And they are switching back to mixed gender. The only people complaining right now are those with hangups. The rest of us think it’s fine.


It hasn't always been this explicit


We certainly covered body parts, menstruation, and morning wood 30+ years ago. NOT in separate classrooms.


California doesn't count.

This is Virginia


Not CA.
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The only reason this weird political school board will remove it will be because they don't want anyone to realize that men have penises, and not because is was wildly inappropriate


This is the truest statement on this thread!!!
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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.


But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.


Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.


No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.


They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.


Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”


I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.


Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.


What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.


Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.


No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.


All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.



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I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

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Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.



This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.


The only people for combining elementsry kids are the handful who don't pay attention to anything semt home, the weirdos like the birth control wet dream mom, and the predators who don't have kids and who know nothing about appropriate child development.

Fcps is counting on parents not paying attention.

That is why the school board bumped this topic back from the school year to summer vacation.

It is whay this school board does with all their really, really stupid and their really controversial ideas.


Yup their most controversial and frustrating votes and meetings happen during the last of the school year when most people have checked out. And they hope no one remembers next school year.
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