4-6th graders FLE all genders together and more

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

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I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

In my 15 years of teaching ES FLE, the question(s) I get most often are: how do I insert a tampon? how do I prevent pregnancy? does it hurt to have sex? does it hurt to have a baby? and do I have to have a baby? These are the things girls care about. I can’t say a lot in regards to this, so I doubt IVF and surrogacy will be covered soon.

Every year we get questions about same sex relationships and how they have babies.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

Why? Because an anonymous rando says so? No, thank you.

Because you’re harming your kids. No good comes from having your kids being embarrassed over dumb stuff.

Thank you for explaining your reasoning.

I'm not harming my children by teaching them about private things. We're good.

Ok. Then don’t betch about what FCPS does.

You've got it backwards. Right now, FLE is separated by sex. You are complaining that it shouldn't be. That embarrassment is wrong and backwards.

It hadn’t always been divided. And they are switching back to mixed gender. The only people complaining right now are those with hangups. The rest of us think it’s fine.

It hasn't always been this explicit

We certainly covered body parts, menstruation, and morning wood 30+ years ago. NOT in separate classrooms.

California doesn't count.

This is Virginia

+1, while sitting in the gym floor with 50 of my peers - facilitated by my male PE teacher that was missing 3 fingers. Who ended the lesson by asking, “Any questions?” But the tone implied, “No questions.” It wasn’t exactly the premier FCPS education that I kept hearing I was getting in the late 80s.

Ok. But in ES, PE teachers are not teaching it. Homeroom teachers are.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

Fhat is a load of crab.

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No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

That is a load of crap


Natural embarrassment over intimate things id developmentally appropriate, and a built in way for children to learn to listen to their bodies natural cues including things that might be dangerous or put them at risk


The only people who want to break down these natural barriers of privacy, bodily autonomy and sexuality are weirdos, predators and perverts with an agenda to harm and exploit children.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

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I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

The only people for combining elementsry kids are the handful who don't pay attention to anything semt home, the weirdos like the birth control wet dream mom, and the predators who don't have kids and who know nothing about appropriate child development.

Fcps is counting on parents not paying attention.

That is why the school board bumped this topic back from the school year to summer vacation.

It is whay this school board does with all their really, really stupid and their really controversial ideas.

I would actually be interested in a seeing survey results on this matter from parents. Just based on this thread it looks pretty split!

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

+1
I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

Why not? Apparently kids shouldn’t be embarrassed by these things based on some of the responses by parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

+1
I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

In my 15 years of teaching ES FLE, the question(s) I get most often are: how do I insert a tampon? how do I prevent pregnancy? does it hurt to have sex? does it hurt to have a baby? and do I have to have a baby? These are the things girls care about. I can’t say a lot in regards to this, so I doubt IVF and surrogacy will be covered soon.

Every year we get questions about same sex relationships and how they have babies.

They don’t together in a biological way. Hopefully that’s a pretty clear teaching point.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

+1
I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

Why not? Apparently kids shouldn’t be embarrassed by these things based on some of the responses by parents.

Schools have no place discussing same sex relationships with our kids. Omg.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

+1
I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

Why not? Apparently kids shouldn’t be embarrassed by these things based on some of the responses by parents.

Schools have no place discussing same sex relationships with our kids. Omg.

Agreed. Or most of the things in FLE.

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

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I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

Why not? Apparently kids shouldn’t be embarrassed by these things based on some of the responses by parents.

Schools have no place discussing same sex relationships with our kids. Omg.

Why not, you bigoted POS?

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We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

+1
I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

In my 15 years of teaching ES FLE, the question(s) I get most often are: how do I insert a tampon? how do I prevent pregnancy? does it hurt to have sex? does it hurt to have a baby? and do I have to have a baby? These are the things girls care about. I can’t say a lot in regards to this, so I doubt IVF and surrogacy will be covered soon.

Every year we get questions about same sex relationships and how they have babies.

They don’t together in a biological way. Hopefully that’s a pretty clear teaching point.

In many ES grades, we aren’t even allowed to answer this question.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

+1
I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

Why not? Apparently kids shouldn’t be embarrassed by these things based on some of the responses by parents.

Schools have no place discussing same sex relationships with our kids. Omg.

Well many peopke also think FLE shouldn’t be taught in schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

+1
I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

Why not? Apparently kids shouldn’t be embarrassed by these things based on some of the responses by parents.

Schools have no place discussing same sex relationships with our kids. Omg.

Well many peopke also think FLE shouldn’t be taught in schools.

Agree. I sure hope the pp against talking about same sex relationships is not for combining ES kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Why shouldn't they combine everybody? Should only girls know about stuff?

+1

We were never separated out back in the 80s.

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Same here...and I was embarrassed to ask a question about period blood in front of other girls, there would be no way I'd have the courage to ask (or even write it down) a TMI question in front of boys.

But they can at least teach basics. Overall this is going to make people a *lot* more knowledgeable.

Can't they teach the "basics" in separated genders? That way, specific questions and details pertaining to gender can be discussed.

No questions are asked spontaneously. All questions are written down and vetted first by the teacher. You won’t have a girl embarrassed to ask a question in front of classmates about her period because won’t happen. There’s no reason to separate by gender. As another PP noted, you don’t separate for any other subjects.

They have the option to write them down, plenty ask in front of their peers by raising their hand.

Not in the FCPS elementary school where I teach. I’ve been teaching FLE for over 10 years at 5th and 6th grade. We teach the kids to write down their questions. It’s not that difficult. If a kid raises their hand, I simply don’t answer. I say, “I see your hand is up. You can write down your question and we’ll review them.”

I also have been teaching FLE for over 10 years, some write down their questions and some ask. Either way is accepted. It’s not that difficult.

Correct. And if boys and girls are combined, no one will raise their hand anymore or feel safe. This is outrageous.

What’s outrageous is your faux outrage and lack of basic comprehension skills. ALL STUDENTS CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS ANONYMOUSLY. No one is stopping anyone from asking anything. All the kids are given blank notecards. They write questions. The cards are collected. Questions get answered. No one knows whether a boy or girl asked it.

Faux outrage is correct.

I thought FCPS was an educated area. What is with all of these ass-backwards parents and teachers? Are they even from FCPS? Might be outside agitators trying to stir up trouble.

No, not everyone is post-gender like you. Most of us are modest and are embarrassed by embarrassing things.

All learned behaviors. Stop teaching your kids to be embarrassed.

+1
I’ve posted a few times earlier in this thread. This doesn’t need to be an embarrassing topic.

ES Teacher

Nope. My kids grew up in an household where we openly discussed. Fast forward towards the tween years and it didn’t matter. They were embarrassed and reading about puberty in a book or talking about and it suddenly happening to you is a whole different thing. They suddenly became more private and embarrassed and yes around their friends and at school they were more embarrassed and didn’t talk openly. It’s actually developmental and not something you can “parent” out of a child.

This. I grew up in a very open household. I knew all of this stuff. But, most of these kids don’t come from households that talk openly. You can tell with the types of questions they ask. I have a lot of gripes about FLE. It takes away from instructional time for a full week. There are so many things we cannot answer, which is dumb if the county wants to do this for equity purposes. If they truly want to do this, then we should be able to talk about same sex relationships, other ways to have babies(ivf,surrogacy), etc. I get more questions about these things and we cannot answer them. I personally think it is a huge mistake combining ES grades. Most adults are not embarrassed but the kids are. If a book has any romance in it, some kids get embarrassed. It is part of life. The majority of northern VA does not do mixed for ES grades. What will end up happening is there will be a large influx of parents opting out and the schools won’t have anyone to watch them when 10 kids from each class stay to be educated on this stuff. It will be a waste of instructional time.

Hell no.

In my 15 years of teaching ES FLE, the question(s) I get most often are: how do I insert a tampon? how do I prevent pregnancy? does it hurt to have sex? does it hurt to have a baby? and do I have to have a baby? These are the things girls care about. I can’t say a lot in regards to this, so I doubt IVF and surrogacy will be covered soon.

Every year we get questions about same sex relationships and how they have babies.

They don’t together in a biological way. Hopefully that’s a pretty clear teaching point.

In many ES grades, we aren’t even allowed to answer this question.

That is the point. If we cannot be open about this topic and answer, then why do people think it is ok to combine children and teach them explicit content that is sensitive. Looking at a diagram of a penis is uncomfortable for 10 and 11 year olds.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way I want boys and girls combined in elementary school for FLE.

There is no good reason to combine them. Each group gets the same information. It is way too sensitive and embarrassing for the young kids otherwise.

And why is that? Think about what leads to something natural being embarrassing. It doesn’t have to be.

+1. We, as parents, were raised in households where these topics were embarrassing and not discussed. Not what we wanted for our kids. We sucked it up in our house with a DS 2 years older than a DD. And adopted the “it’s biology” approach and encouraged discussion no separated by genders.. And we ended up with a high school aged boy who comforted his sister when he went to make sure she was up for school and discovered she had bled through during the night and came and told us (DH and I) that she needed some help. Who had no issues buying her pads when he ran errands if she sent him a picture of the box and picking up her BC (terrible cramps) when he gets. ADHD meds filled. And a daughter who could tell us at the dinner table she had a sucky day because of period cramps and who gave her brother first dibs at the washing machine when he appeared with a pile of sheets, in a no teasing, “you go ahead” way.

Kids take their cues from adults. If the adults are embarrassed, they will be to. If the adults treat this as biological facts and NBD, kids will too.

Put another way— do you want your daughter to marry someone who will buy pads/ tampons on the grocery list, be sympathetic when she has a period, attend OB appointments when she is pregnant? Do you want kids who have healthy sex loves and communicate with their partner when issues arise? Then raise kids that way. You can’t act like this is super secret and embarrassing until high school or college and expect a kid not to internalize it.

Sorry, but this is just plain weird.

Why? He’s 19, home for the summer and picking up his own meds. Should a parent be making a second trip to CVS because he is too delicate to be handed a pharmacy bag with his sister’s BC pills inside? What about when he’s 29 and married? Should his wife need to make separate trip to CVS because my grown ass son is too squeamish to carry a bag with birth control to the car? Should she have to make separate stop because her husband is too embarrassed to pick up tampons with the toothpaste? Maybe if I am lucky enough to have grandkids, he should stay in the waiting room while his kids are born?

This is a college student on a co-ed hall using a co-ed bathroom. He’s not 11. Once he could pick up his meds at 18, it was time to start as we want him to continue. And we want him to be an adult and a spouse who doesn’t treat normal bodily functions as shameful. We want him to buy what’s on the grocery list. We want him to view female reproduction as normal and healthy, so he can one day support his wife when she is pregnant and start to bond with his children. So he can attend appointments and classes without embarrassment.

What’s next? Not having him get TP because he will have to deal with the fact members of our family poop?

All you 40+ who think periods are shameful, or picking up BC with other meds is embarrassing- don’t you ever wish you didn’t have this shame about your body?

yes.

its just wierd.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way I want boys and girls combined in elementary school for FLE.

There is no good reason to combine them. Each group gets the same information. It is way too sensitive and embarrassing for the young kids otherwise.

And why is that? Think about what leads to something natural being embarrassing. It doesn’t have to be.

+1. We, as parents, were raised in households where these topics were embarrassing and not discussed. Not what we wanted for our kids. We sucked it up in our house with a DS 2 years older than a DD. And adopted the “it’s biology” approach and encouraged discussion no separated by genders.. And we ended up with a high school aged boy who comforted his sister when he went to make sure she was up for school and discovered she had bled through during the night and came and told us (DH and I) that she needed some help. Who had no issues buying her pads when he ran errands if she sent him a picture of the box and picking up her BC (terrible cramps) when he gets. ADHD meds filled. And a daughter who could tell us at the dinner table she had a sucky day because of period cramps and who gave her brother first dibs at the washing machine when he appeared with a pile of sheets, in a no teasing, “you go ahead” way.

Kids take their cues from adults. If the adults are embarrassed, they will be to. If the adults treat this as biological facts and NBD, kids will too.

Put another way— do you want your daughter to marry someone who will buy pads/ tampons on the grocery list, be sympathetic when she has a period, attend OB appointments when she is pregnant? Do you want kids who have healthy sex loves and communicate with their partner when issues arise? Then raise kids that way. You can’t act like this is super secret and embarrassing until high school or college and expect a kid not to internalize it.

Sorry, but this is just plain weird.

Why? He’s 19, home for the summer and picking up his own meds. Should a parent be making a second trip to CVS because he is too delicate to be handed a pharmacy bag with his sister’s BC pills inside? What about when he’s 29 and married? Should his wife need to make separate trip to CVS because my grown ass son is too squeamish to carry a bag with birth control to the car? Should she have to make separate stop because her husband is too embarrassed to pick up tampons with the toothpaste? Maybe if I am lucky enough to have grandkids, he should stay in the waiting room while his kids are born?

This is a college student on a co-ed hall using a co-ed bathroom. He’s not 11. Once he could pick up his meds at 18, it was time to start as we want him to continue. And we want him to be an adult and a spouse who doesn’t treat normal bodily functions as shameful. We want him to buy what’s on the grocery list. We want him to view female reproduction as normal and healthy, so he can one day support his wife when she is pregnant and start to bond with his children. So he can attend appointments and classes without embarrassment.

What’s next? Not having him get TP because he will have to deal with the fact members of our family poop?

All you 40+ who think periods are shameful, or picking up BC with other meds is embarrassing- don’t you ever wish you didn’t have this shame about your body?

yes.

its just wierd.

It’s not weird at all. WTAF?

Troll?