Thoughts on MC Elite?

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Anonymous wrote:27s and 28s each won only 2 NGLL games last year... in the B division. Why on earth would both go A this year.

28 just dropped out of the A bracket...Parents must have been vocal to leadership and demanded a change.

Wait someone there actually listened? Really?

Or like every year, NGLL didn't actually put the trans in the right bracket until they started putting the schedule together and they always wanted one team in A and one team in B.

Wrong. They had the MCE Midnight in A and MCE Carolina in B. Now MCE Midnight is gone from A while Carolina is still in B.

I don't believe this statement to be correct if you look at the MCE website they only have one team for that age group listed and it is listed as Midnight. So did JR just decide that the 28-midnight team was not at the A level and listed them as Carolina instead when registering for the NGLL to have them play in the B bracket but want everyone to believe they are in fact an A level team by not changing it on their website?

Think what you want. When player registration first opened and the Divisions were shown, there were 15 teams in both the A and B divisions. A few weeks later, right before Registration was closing, 2 MCE teams were added, 1 to A and 1 to B to make 16 teams in each. Now the MCE team is gone from A but the MCE team remains in the B division. Guess this is hard for some to understand.

It's not about thinking how we want it's about facts and the facts are that MCE has only shown one 28 team on the MCE website since tryouts and players were assigned to teams and that one team has only been and currently is listed as Midnight so how is there an A and B team?

That one 28 team is playing in the B division of the NGLL and is in fact listed as Carolina in tourney machine yet according to the MCE website that one team in is a Midnight team meaning the clubs A team but hey are playing in a B division...

So the question I would pose is if this 28 team is playing in the B bracket and NGLL is listing them as Carolina the MCE B team why would and is MCE be indicating to the players and parents that this team is an A team by listing it as Midnight?

i guess its hard for some to understand...

I just checked and Tourney Machine is only listing the team as MC Elite...no Carolina or Midnight.

So MCE had the NGLL remove the Carolina title from tourney machine after someone read the conversations going on here but the fact remains that MCE has the Midnight (A team) as per the MCE website playing in a B division...

It's obvious someone from MCE is reading this and made a ninja edit with NGLL. That is not a good indicator of a good club.

My thoughts exactly why not just be upfront and honest that the club is not what it once. On top of that they need to be honest about that they mainly have B level teams who sometimes play in B+ brackets and even then they aren’t super competitive most of the time. And a lot of that is due to inconsistent and or poor coaching with the exception of a couple of the teams.

MCE is highly disorganized and the leadership is horrendous. Coaches are assigned to more than one team and don't show up half the time to practices or tournaments because of a conflict. Without a doubt, it is B level lacrosse. Any of the teams that play in the A division are not doing that because of the "hi-level coaching." It's because there are talented and skilled athletes who happen to be on the team and work on getting themselves recruited. But that is also how most of the teams are. The problem with MCE is the horrible leadership that attacks the parents, complains about them, then hounds them for money.

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I know you have a serious bone to pick with MC Elite, but you could honestly say most of this about any of the clubs in the DMV area, including the top Maryland clubs. Some of the top clubs just happen to be where the top players have historically congregated. But don't assume they have better coaching or are more organized just because they win a lot or have better players. Normally, they are just as organizationally dysfunctional as what you describe. Occasionally you get a natural leader as a coach who knows the game, develops the girls, and is organized, but it's rare.

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I think it is hilarious that whoever is monitoring this from MCE seems to have the belief that this is only one parent complaining they are so tone-deaf to the whole situation and why the club is falling apart.

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After the first weekend of NGLL the clubs' record overall is 1-6 with a -43 GD

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Anonymous wrote:After the first weekend of NGLL the clubs' record overall is 1-6 with a -43 GD

Where do you find this info?

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Tourney Machine is used for all NGLL

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Anonymous wrote:After the first weekend of NGLL the clubs' record overall is 1-6 with a -43 GD

Where do you find this info?

Tourney machine app.

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Anonymous wrote:After the first weekend of NGLL the clubs' record overall is 1-6 with a -43 GD

Where do you find this info?

Tourney machine app.

After week 2 of NGLL play the club is now 3-14 with a -158 GD which is with 7 teams across 5 age groups only one team has a winning record and a + GD and that is the 28 team playing in the B division.

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Well it could be worse. Rebels is 0-6 (only 2 teams in NGLL) with a GD of -51

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Easy there with the reckless generalized comparisons. Makes no sense. The younger Rebels team is in its first year and playing in A. 2027 has played two games in A as well, 6-8 loss to Pride and 2-14 loss against a superior BLC team.

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Anonymous wrote:Easy there with the reckless generalized comparisons. Makes no sense. The younger Rebels team is in its first year and playing in A. 2027 has played two games in A as well, 6-8 loss to Pride and 2-14 loss against a superior BLC team.

The younger team is in B. And getting demolished. They only have TWO teams total below high school. The 27 team will be lucky to win 2 games. At least MCE has teams. So like I said. It could be worse.

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I stand corrected on the younger team playing A. If you are comparing number of teams, obviously MC has more, not sure how the GD means anything across age groups when comparing any club.

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Anonymous wrote:Easy there with the reckless generalized comparisons. Makes no sense. The younger Rebels team is in its first year and playing in A. 2027 has played two games in A as well, 6-8 loss to Pride and 2-14 loss against a superior BLC team.

The younger team is in B. And getting demolished. They only have TWO teams total below high school. The 27 team will be lucky to win 2 games. At least MCE has teams. So like I said. It could be worse.

It is also a mixed team 31/32 playing in a 31 bracket. Also, Haight filters his better girls into Renegades which is also his club and they are 8-10 with a +6 GD.

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Anonymous wrote:Easy there with the reckless generalized comparisons. Makes no sense. The younger Rebels team is in its first year and playing in A. 2027 has played two games in A as well, 6-8 loss to Pride and 2-14 loss against a superior BLC team.

The younger team is in B. And getting demolished. They only have TWO teams total below high school. The 27 team will be lucky to win 2 games. At least MCE has teams. So like I said. It could be worse.

It is also a mixed team 31/32 playing in a 31 bracket. Also, Haight filters his better girls into Renegades which is also his club and they are 8-10 with a +6 GD.

Agreed Renegades seems to be much better (but as I understand has it's own director). Not too many Renegades head to GC. Again, Rebels seems to be in bad shape and he'd be better off merging the programs. He has a pipeline to GC that he doesn't take advantage of. How many girls from Rebels/Renegades even see the field at GC? Seems like Rebels/Renegades should have so much potential, but leadership seems to be more concerned with tourney $$$.

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Anonymous wrote:Easy there with the reckless generalized comparisons. Makes no sense. The younger Rebels team is in its first year and playing in A. 2027 has played two games in A as well, 6-8 loss to Pride and 2-14 loss against a superior BLC team.

The younger team is in B. And getting demolished. They only have TWO teams total below high school. The 27 team will be lucky to win 2 games. At least MCE has teams. So like I said. It could be worse.

It is also a mixed team 31/32 playing in a 31 bracket. Also, Haight filters his better girls into Renegades which is also his club and they are 8-10 with a +6 GD.

Agreed Renegades seems to be much better (but as I understand has it's own director). Not too many Renegades head to GC. Again, Rebels seems to be in bad shape and he'd be better off merging the programs. He has a pipeline to GC that he doesn't take advantage of. How many girls from Rebels/Renegades even see the field at GC? Seems like Rebels/Renegades should have so much potential, but leadership seems to be more concerned with tourney $$$.

From what gather he has taken more of a role in the club over the past couple of years after seeing it decline and it is starting to show. The pixie sticks program is thriving and I am sure will lead to better quality lax within Rebels and Renegades in the next few years. As far as GC goes He has always recruited CLC, Heros, M&D, SW, and HOCO, for one reason plain and simple the quality of lax anywhere in MOCO just doesn't stack up or even come close to the counties to the north at any level. It is sad but the facts are that any good lacrosse player in MOCO eventually leaves to play better-quality lacrosse against tougher teams and receive better coaching at one of the other clubs. That all translates into higher quality college programs they get to play for in the end.