Social resume for sorority rush

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Everyone should be grateful that the reject house offers them a bid- got it.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

When sororities cut girls, it because they’re looking for a match. When a girl cuts a sorority, it’s because she’s a snob, is that what you’re saying? Because that’s what you’re saying.

Definitely not a two way street. Go through hell and be happy with the result, or you’re an ungrateful whiner. Nice organization you have there.

It is absolutely a two way street. The houses rank girls, girls rank houses. Yeah that sounds bad but then the computer matches it all up and if they are not happy with their remaining choices, the girls drop out. Anyone can get into a sorority (at most schools), IF you are open minded about the choices and give the houses that want them a chance. Yes there may be houses that the girls have left that they don't want. No harm no foul, they can drop out and try again during COB or next formal rush.

Those houses don't want them, they want any warm body willing to pay does

This.

And COB is just a few spots and in just a few houses. It’s also pretty hard to get excited about putting yourself out there again after such a painful week. And very few sophomores rush and there are only a few spots for them. This isn’t half as easy as they want it to sound. But they like it this way. How are they supposed to feel the thrill of the hierarchy if there aren’t heart-broken girls at the end?

Not necessary true. At my DD's school, all houses but one did COB and there were more than a "few spots".

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Everyone should be grateful that the reject house offers them a bid- got it.

Judgmental much? My DS is pledging a "low tier" fraternity, which is the only one he targeted to rush. He is not a reject, he CHOOSE this house and did not consider any others.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Everyone should be grateful that the reject house offers them a bid- got it.

Judgmental much? My DS is pledging a "low tier" fraternity, which is the only one he targeted to rush. He is not a reject, he CHOOSE this house and did not consider any others.

You missed the entire context of PP’s post. Your son happily matched. That’s not what this conversation is about.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, they get it from their elders but as 21 or 22 yr olds in 2022, they can think for themselves.

Rush happens at 18. In fact schools with really competitive greek life, your best chance of getting into a sorority is a slim window: fall of freshman year, no older than 19 or younger than 17, and straight after high school. After that don't bother.

The comment was about the girls who choose the new members during rush. They are old enough to think through what they are doing and why.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Everyone should be grateful that the reject house offers them a bid- got it.

Judgmental much? My DS is pledging a "low tier" fraternity, which is the only one he targeted to rush. He is not a reject, he CHOOSE this house and did not consider any others.

You missed the entire context of PP’s post. Your son happily matched. That’s not what this conversation is about.

well according to the PP, my DS is a reject. You ladies aren't necessarily making a positive case for yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Everyone should be grateful that the reject house offers them a bid- got it.

Judgmental much? My DS is pledging a "low tier" fraternity, which is the only one he targeted to rush. He is not a reject, he CHOOSE this house and did not consider any others.

You missed the entire context of PP’s post. Your son happily matched. That’s not what this conversation is about.

This. I actually was in a 'lower tier' house, but I matched and chose to be there. That isn't remotely the same as a kid who does even rank a house getting matched by a house who offers a bid to literally every one

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Why are there tiers and who decides which houses are in which tier?

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

When sororities cut girls, it because they’re looking for a match. When a girl cuts a sorority, it’s because she’s a snob, is that what you’re saying? Because that’s what you’re saying.

Definitely not a two way street. Go through hell and be happy with the result, or you’re an ungrateful whiner. Nice organization you have there.

It is absolutely a two way street. The houses rank girls, girls rank houses. Yeah that sounds bad but then the computer matches it all up and if they are not happy with their remaining choices, the girls drop out. Anyone can get into a sorority (at most schools), IF you are open minded about the choices and give the houses that want them a chance. Yes there may be houses that the girls have left that they don't want. No harm no foul, they can drop out and try again during COB or next formal rush.

My DD reluctantly decided to rush this year. She was never a "follower" and was about 50/50 on rushing when she came to college. She and almost all of her hallmates decided to rush this spring just to see how things went. She was cut by all the "top houses" after day one. Understandably she was shocked to her core. It's not easy being judged like that for sure. Lots of tears and time spent with friends in the same situation comforting each other. She decided to keep going through the process. The house she got into she had never heard of prior to rush but in reality, those are "her people" and its clear that everything worked out for the best. Many, many girls dropped out when my DD decided to keep going. That's their choice and they can always try again next year if their heart is set on a certain house. A few of them did COB and got into houses they'd been dropped from just a week earlier. Yes, if she'd gotten cut by this one house, she probably would have dropped out and tried again, because she did not click with the other houses that were left at all, but she went through the entire process and met with these remaining houses several times before deciding that. That is also her choice.

Net net, it's a tough process but it can be worth it. My DD loves her sorority and is looking forward to meeting more sisters (they have about 200 members) and hopefully being in a leadership role at some point.

Interestingly, the hallmates were very close in the fall and now that they rushed and all went different places, it has had a negative affect on the group just because they are all busy with their houses and events. It's too bad, but the silver lining is that she has a whole new group of people to meet and befriend. At the same time, my DD and her best friend go to each others sororities functions all the time even though they are in different houses. It doesn't have to be exclusionary.

Holy cow.

It is by its very nature exclusionary.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Everyone should be grateful that the reject house offers them a bid- got it.

Judgmental much? My DS is pledging a "low tier" fraternity, which is the only one he targeted to rush. He is not a reject, he CHOOSE this house and did not consider any others.

You missed the entire context of PP’s post. Your son happily matched. That’s not what this conversation is about.

well according to the PP, my DS is a reject. You ladies aren't necessarily making a positive case for yourself.

We’re actually not talking about fraternities at all. They have a completely different rush system which is generally more humane, more authentic, and much less emotionally charged. My DD who hated rush wished sorority rush was like the fraternities.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

When sororities cut girls, it because they’re looking for a match. When a girl cuts a sorority, it’s because she’s a snob, is that what you’re saying? Because that’s what you’re saying.

Definitely not a two way street. Go through hell and be happy with the result, or you’re an ungrateful whiner. Nice organization you have there.

It is absolutely a two way street. The houses rank girls, girls rank houses. Yeah that sounds bad but then the computer matches it all up and if they are not happy with their remaining choices, the girls drop out. Anyone can get into a sorority (at most schools), IF you are open minded about the choices and give the houses that want them a chance. Yes there may be houses that the girls have left that they don't want. No harm no foul, they can drop out and try again during COB or next formal rush.

My DD reluctantly decided to rush this year. She was never a "follower" and was about 50/50 on rushing when she came to college. She and almost all of her hallmates decided to rush this spring just to see how things went. She was cut by all the "top houses" after day one. Understandably she was shocked to her core. It's not easy being judged like that for sure. Lots of tears and time spent with friends in the same situation comforting each other. She decided to keep going through the process. The house she got into she had never heard of prior to rush but in reality, those are "her people" and its clear that everything worked out for the best. Many, many girls dropped out when my DD decided to keep going. That's their choice and they can always try again next year if their heart is set on a certain house. A few of them did COB and got into houses they'd been dropped from just a week earlier. Yes, if she'd gotten cut by this one house, she probably would have dropped out and tried again, because she did not click with the other houses that were left at all, but she went through the entire process and met with these remaining houses several times before deciding that. That is also her choice.

Net net, it's a tough process but it can be worth it. My DD loves her sorority and is looking forward to meeting more sisters (they have about 200 members) and hopefully being in a leadership role at some point.

Interestingly, the hallmates were very close in the fall and now that they rushed and all went different places, it has had a negative affect on the group just because they are all busy with their houses and events. It's too bad, but the silver lining is that she has a whole new group of people to meet and befriend. At the same time, my DD and her best friend go to each others sororities functions all the time even though they are in different houses. It doesn't have to be exclusionary.

Holy cow.

It is by its very nature exclusionary.

And really, the entire point of their creation.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Everyone should be grateful that the reject house offers them a bid- got it.

Judgmental much? My DS is pledging a "low tier" fraternity, which is the only one he targeted to rush. He is not a reject, he CHOOSE this house and did not consider any others.

You missed the entire context of PP’s post. Your son happily matched. That’s not what this conversation is about.

well according to the PP, my DS is a reject. You ladies aren't necessarily making a positive case for yourself.

We’re actually not talking about fraternities at all. They have a completely different rush system which is generally more humane, more authentic, and much less emotionally charged. My DD who hated rush wished sorority rush was like the fraternities.

Are you for real? Have you seen the hazing in frats?

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

and that is fine. They are not required to rush nor continue rushing.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

It’s not fine when it leads to social exclusion
and that is fine. They are not required to rush nor continue rushing.