PP is right about who you already know. “ dirty rush” is not allowed but the girls who get a house often do a more subtle version: going to the football games during their senior year of high school, meeting older siblings of their friends, working their social circle every way they can to meet older girls and get to know them. That way when their face pops up on the screen at 1 am for voting, at least a couple girls can say “omg, she’s the sweetest you guys, we have to have her” |
It been like this forever. You need a sponsor. At my school the work around for a girl we wanted but didn’t have a sponsor letter was for a senior to write one. No big deal. But lots of girls come to campus with sponsor letters to all the chapters, just like OP’s daughter will because her mom is asking for them. I’d happily write a sponsor letter now if a friends daughter was going to college where my sorority had a chapter. It’s a formality for some schools, matters a lot at others. |
But somehow that doesn’t exclude first generation students, students from rural areas, etc sure ![]() |
Stupid traditions that should be eliminated. |
Who said it doesn’t? Of course it does. It excludes anyone not deep into the WASP prosperity evangelical circles with the “right” lineage. There are some occasional exceptions but just like college admissions, Greek legacy exists to support certain social circles. |
s friend sent my wife a request to recommend their kid for her old sorority, then she saw the resume that was full of lies, my wife declined saying integrity was very important to her and her sorority and the friend said well she will get in without your recommendation.
Let's just say when she didn't get the bid |
Same for my daughter. Dropped by the top houses on the last night. Had all the right stats (deseriable high school, high GPA, etc.) and pretty. No recommendation letters because we were told it wasn’t like that at her school. Getting dropped at the end SUCKS. |
I feel like you posted this as a positive light to offset mass rejections (and I could be wrong...). But my take on your post is why not just allow everyone to join, instead of singling out TWO kids. That must feel pretty horrible for them. |
Yuck. |
Your wife wishes she were this important and powerful, but the girls don’t care. Letters of Rec mean nothing. And truly, the current girls don’t care one bit about alum input. My high stat, pretty DD who went to the “right” high school and summer camps had a letter of Rec from previous chapter president. Cut on the first night. If you’re not a legacy the chances are slim to none. And there are so many legacies now, lots of them get cut too. The whole process is gross. |
Right? It’s WORSE when it’s just a couple. Cruel. |
+1 Yuck. And why would you want to surround yourself with such similar people? |
Conformity is valued in the South and in certain religious and political personalities. I dislike it myself and find it humorous, but to each her own. |
I'm an alumni of a big state school sorority. I am also a former national officer. The "rec letter" is now an online form. It helps, but really only to get invited back to the second day. What is most important is your daughter's grades and extracurricular activities and volunteering. There are enough party girls going through recruitment and what sororities want are well rounded women who aren't going to flunk out. The biggest reason people get "cut" is grades and attitude. My cousin is a 4.0 honors student, in one or two activities. But her social skills are that of an elementary school student. she can't make small talk and she has a hard time engaging others in conversation. She was cut even during spring rush and even with my rec letter and my good friends. So it's not all about connections.
My parents were first generation college students and I'm from a blue collar, working class background. I had decent grades and a lot of leadership activities. My dad's law partners wrote letters of rec and I had a lot of older friends in different sororities. The sororities I liked most were not these ones. I found one that was more diverse and inclusive and more welcoming. For people saying that sororities are not inclusive, you are full of it. I went to a southern state school. My sorority in the 1990s had Black, Asian and Latina women. Several of my pledge sisters were openly LGBTQIA. We had Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, atheists, politically conservative and progressive. Socially conservative and free spirits. Athletic women, artistic women, women who love to volunteer, party girls, slackers, etc. The best thing about a sorority is the networking. When I moved to a new place and started my professional career, it helped me immensley. I met a lot of my best friends from my sorority. Sure there were a few "mean girls" but the majority of the women in my sorority were awesome: an Olympic athlete, patented a medical device, started a nonprofit, started a small business, etc. All while college students. I worked two jobs while paying for college on my own. Sororities are way more affordable than the dorms or apartments at big state schools. I had parking and a safe clean place to live. I loved it! |
Can you two please come up with more adult words to describe your feelings than "gross" and "yuck?" Thank you. |