Which universities have gone DOWN in stature over the years?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Columbia falsified their numbers. See the news.

U Chicago tries to get anyone to apply in order to be more rejective. I think they send mailers to assisted living centers to see if they can get more applications they can reject. (Kidding only about the last part)

Is JHU up for areas other than pre-med/STEM or just that area?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter. But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.

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Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.

I think the LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.

Again with the "LAC-like schools" Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter. But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.

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Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.

I think the LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.

Again with the "LAC-like schools" Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.

To be fair as research institutions Brown and Dartmouth are middling

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter. But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.

.
Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.

I think the LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.

Again with the "LAC-like schools" Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.

To be fair as research institutions Brown and Dartmouth are middling

+1. I think Dartmouth literally became an R1 university like, last year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter. But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.

.
Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.

I think the LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.

Again with the "LAC-like schools" Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.

To be fair as research institutions Brown and Dartmouth are middling

No, silly, they are R1 research universities, of which there are only 146. "Doctoral Universities – Very high research activity" in the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States

This took two seconds to search for. Why did you not "do your research"?

As for the quality of the research at Brown, Professor Michael Kosterlitz was awarded 2016 Nobel Prize in Physics. Maybe you've heard of it? Kenneth Miller is a famous leading evolutionary biology professor. There's so many others... here's a list:

https://vivo.brown.edu/search

Tell me which one of those is "middling"?

I'll wait.

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Bob Jones University.

[Anonymous]

Bob Jones never goes down … that’s the problem!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter. But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.

.
Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.

I think the LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.

Again with the "LAC-like schools" Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.

To be fair as research institutions Brown and Dartmouth are middling

+1. I think Dartmouth literally became an R1 university like, last year.

You "think"?

Don't think. Read. "Like" last year? Well, that's "like" incorrect. They were one, lost the classification, and then got it back in 2017, which is very much "like" 5 years ago. The bar for R1 is high.

Research expenditures have risen from $201 million in 2013 to $326 million in 2020. In addition, Dartmouth was restored to R1 status as a top-level research institution in 2017 and was elected two years later to membership in the Association of American Universities.

https://home.dartmouth.edu/news/2021/09/trustees-hold-first-person-meeting-pandemic-began

You people know NOTHING about what you are talking about, and you should stop typing things because some poor soul may think you know what you are doing. You don't, and on top of that you are too lazy to type a few words into google.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter. But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.

.
Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.

I think the LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.

Again with the "LAC-like schools" Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.

To be fair as research institutions Brown and Dartmouth are middling

No, silly, they are R1 research universities, of which there are only 146. "Doctoral Universities – Very high research activity" in the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States

This took two seconds to search for. Why did you not "do your research"?

As for the quality of the research at Brown, Professor Michael Kosterlitz was awarded 2016 Nobel Prize in Physics. Maybe you've heard of it? Kenneth Miller is a famous leading evolutionary biology professor. There's so many others... here's a list:

https://vivo.brown.edu/search

Tell me which one of those is "middling"?

I'll wait.

Dartmouth only became R1 in 2017.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter. But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.

.
Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.

I think the LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.

Again with the "LAC-like schools" Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.

To be fair as research institutions Brown and Dartmouth are middling

No, silly, they are R1 research universities, of which there are only 146. "Doctoral Universities – Very high research activity" in the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States

This took two seconds to search for. Why did you not "do your research"?

As for the quality of the research at Brown, Professor Michael Kosterlitz was awarded 2016 Nobel Prize in Physics. Maybe you've heard of it? Kenneth Miller is a famous leading evolutionary biology professor. There's so many others... here's a list:

https://vivo.brown.edu/search

Tell me which one of those is "middling"?

I'll wait.

Dartmouth only became R1 in 2017.

Again, you prove my point that you are too lazy to even read what you think you read.

They were R1, fell out in 2015, and GOT IT BACK in 2017.

Hey, People looking at colleges! Ignore most of what you read here as many of these people are very ignorant of easily researchable facts!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter. But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.

.
Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.

I think the LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.

Again with the "LAC-like schools" Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.

To be fair as research institutions Brown and Dartmouth are middling

No, silly, they are R1 research universities, of which there are only 146. "Doctoral Universities – Very high research activity" in the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States

This took two seconds to search for. Why did you not "do your research"?

As for the quality of the research at Brown, Professor Michael Kosterlitz was awarded 2016 Nobel Prize in Physics. Maybe you've heard of it? Kenneth Miller is a famous leading evolutionary biology professor. There's so many others... here's a list:

https://vivo.brown.edu/search

Tell me which one of those is "middling"?

I'll wait.

Dartmouth only became R1 in 2017.

Again, you prove my point that you are too lazy to even read what you think you read.

They were R1, fell out in 2015, and GOT IT BACK in 2017.

Hey, People looking at colleges! Ignore most of what you read here as many of these people are very ignorant of easily researchable facts!

Dartmouth only became R1 in 2017. Dartmouth is substandard. Everyone knows this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter. But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.

.
Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.

I think the LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.

Again with the "LAC-like schools" Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.

To be fair as research institutions Brown and Dartmouth are middling

+1. I think Dartmouth literally became an R1 university like, last year.

You "think"?

Don't think. Read. "Like" last year? Well, that's "like" incorrect. They were one, lost the classification, and then got it back in 2017, which is very much "like" 5 years ago. The bar for R1 is high.

Research expenditures have risen from $201 million in 2013 to $326 million in 2020. In addition, Dartmouth was restored to R1 status as a top-level research institution in 2017 and was elected two years later to membership in the Association of American Universities.

https://home.dartmouth.edu/news/2021/09/trustees-hold-first-person-meeting-pandemic-began

You people know NOTHING about what you are talking about, and you should stop typing things because some poor soul may think you know what you are doing. You don't, and on top of that you are too lazy to type a few words into google.

Has Dartmouth lost its accreditation? https://www2.ed.gov/admins/finaid/accred/accreditation.html#Overview

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:James madison if you’re from Virginia. Used to be for the kids that just missed UVA. Now, not so much.

Huh?

This contradicts everything I have ever read or heard about VA state schools

If anything, JMU seems to be on the rise.

Agree--JMU is on the rise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Columbia falsified their numbers. See the news.

U Chicago tries to get anyone to apply in order to be more rejective. I think they send mailers to assisted living centers to see if they can get more applications they can reject. (Kidding only about the last part)

You must be the person constantly bashing Columbia and U Chicago loudly.

[Anonymous]

Is there anything quite as pathetic as a bunch of status-obsessed strivers proclaiming with absolute confidence that a bunch of universities of which they have no personal knowledge are categorically superior to a bunch of other universities of which they also have no personal knowledge?

This is a clown show.