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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.[/quote]

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale.  Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person!  Just stop![/quote]

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down.  Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP:  JHU, Stanford and Chicago[/quote]

You silly, silly person!

First, rankings don't matter.  But if they did:

Brown has bounced between 10-17 consistently since the inception of USN.
Dartmouth between 6-12
Berkeley between 13-22
Cornell between 11-16 (with one outlier year at 6)

This is out of 3,000 colleges.

You are, as they used to say in my neighborhood, talking out of your ass.
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Cornell is currently 17, and all of these schools are at the lower end of these ranges. I agree these schools are down while Vanderbilt, washU are up.[/quote]

I think the  LACs and LAC-like schools (like Dartmouth and Brown) lost most grounding vs. research-focused schools like Vandy, WashU, Rice etc.[/quote]

Again with the "LAC-like schools"  Dartmouth and Brown are both R1 research universities.

They both have LACs within them, as does nearly every university on the planet.[/quote]

To be fair as research institutions Brown and Dartmouth are middling [/quote]

+1. I think Dartmouth literally became an R1 university like, last year.[/quote]

You "think"?

Don't think.  Read. "Like" last year?  Well, that's "like" incorrect. They were one, lost the classification, and then got it back in 2017, which is very much "like" 5 years ago.  The bar for R1 is high.

[i]Research expenditures have risen from $201 million in 2013 to $326 million in 2020. In addition, Dartmouth was restored to R1 status as a top-level research institution in 2017 and was elected two years later to membership in the Association of American Universities.[/i]

https://home.dartmouth.edu/news/2021/09/trustees-hold-first-person-meeting-pandemic-began

You people know NOTHING about what you are talking about, and you should stop typing things because some poor soul may think you know what you are doing. You don't, and on top of that you are too lazy to type a few words into google.[/quote]

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