| Aren’t Colby and Colgate equivalent? I would rank them about the same |
LOL your loss. |
OK so let me get this straight. USNWR is a good ranking for this purpose, but we should ignore for the purpose of the OP's ranking request. Got it. |
Yes, ND has one of the lowest rape crime rate. ND grads are expect to respect women the most based on such data. Hege loss for that person. |
I do hiring and I reject the premise of these types of questions. The premise is we would favor applicants from these colleges in some sort of rank order, with an applicant from the lowest rung having much chance of succeeding against the school on the highest rung. In my general experience, the candidate is what matters most, and assuming the schools are roughly in the same broad level of quality, it doesn't matter that much, and these schools are largely in a similar category. |
How do you know that? |
ND is not a “ top 20 school” as you keep posting because that USNWR rank is only for universities - it does not include the very top colleges like Pomona. Also please note UVA is 25 on that same list you keep citing. Considering there are over 4,000 institutions of higher learning in the US, I think your constant “but ND is a top 20 school and so much better than UVA!” to be a bit absurd and disingenuous, especially since ND is 85 percent Catholic. I certainly didn’t want my DCs to apply to ND. You are comparing apples to oranges |
They have separate ranking for liberal arts colleges. USN&WR is the flagship ranking, however it's just a reference, so don't get too obsessed. So ND is #19 for national universities for undergraduates. When we say T10 T20 T50, we are talking about National Universities. Pomona is #4 for national liberal arts for undergraduates. So if you are interested in LAC, then you can reference that. My kid would not apply to LAC or go to a school like UVA where 70% of the kids are from Virginia and 50% from Northern VA. (didn't apply any LAC. Applied UVA for a back up, got accepted, but not at the bottom of the list) Those are all personal preferences, so who cares about your or my kid's personal preference or taste but since you mentioned your preference. And you are right it's apples and oranges, so USN&WR has separate categories for National University and Liberal Arts. So the bottom line is that ND is a T20 school for Undergraduate National Universities by USN&WR which is the flagship ranking for Undergraduates.. |
Touchdown Jesus won’t save you from hell. |
| I don't get why people are putting Tulane above Colgate? |
OK, BS. BS. BS. The rape crisis center is not AT ND. The road between ND and the women's college across the street is literally nicknamed "Rape Road." |
So not a big fan of the Catholic church hierarchy in the US, e.g., plans to deny Kerry, then Biden communion, etc. That said, one of the smartest people I ever collaborated with on a project when working in DC was an ND alum. One of the best dads I know is an ND alum. Both are huge boosters of the school and their daughters, both are pro-choice, and both grew up in predominantly white Catholic communities in the US, etc. I might paint with a finer brush here. |
| Midwest, not US |
+1 The premise of ranking suggests WAY too fine-grained distinctions. UC Berkeley is the only one that I would MAYBE push up a notch as the school itself lending a bit of extra notability. The others would all be an advantage for most candidates in my view but no further distinctions among them. They would be in the category of 'went to a very good school' and then other things would matter far more. |
Yeah, don't even bother with these bigots. Seriously. |