Cancel Spotify

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Anonymous wrote:It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

This is where I am. My immediate reaction was to cancel Spotify immediately but the more I think about it the more I stall in doing it. When and where does it end? I mean, I'm not even sure I agree with Neil Young on all of his beliefs. So why am I going to helter skelter go running after him and then potentially find out that he supports something I don't. Then what do I do? I mean, I detest Joe Ragan and I think he is a humongous a$$hole but he isn't the entirety of Spotify. I don't know. I am going to keep thinking about it. I just don't want to end up paying for 10 different apps because they stand for different things.

You choose where it ends for you. Cancelling Spotify because they provide a platform for Joe Rogan to spew hazardous misinformation does not mean you'd be purchasing all of Neil Young's music, so you don't have to agree with him on everything. It's just a question of whether or not you support enabling the spreading of dangerous misinformation.

Then what we really need to do is cancel with our ISPs and stop using the internet, period, no?

Exactly. Because if we do follow your logic, Poster #3, then I chose to ban YOU first. I don't have to agree with you on everything, I simply don't support your willingness to keep spreading dangerous misinformation via the internet.

If you cancel your ISP, you're not banning me, you're banning yourself. Which wouldn't bother me at all. And you may think you're making a point by taking it to ridiculous lengths, but it's undeniable that hate groups and conspiracy groups have been able to increase their influence using the internet.

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Really surprised to see so many conservatives opposed to the free market. But maybe I shouldn't be?

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Anonymous wrote:Really surprised to see so many conservatives opposed to the free market. But maybe I shouldn't be?

Like who?

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Anonymous wrote:Really surprised to see so many conservatives opposed to the free market. But maybe I shouldn't be?

Like who?

All the ones complaining about how people are cancelling their Spotify accounts, or complaining about Neil Young.

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Anonymous wrote:I genuinely don't understand the conservatives who are unhappy about cancel Spotify. Aren't you in favor of capitalism? Isn't this just capitalism at work? Like the Dixie Chicks example someone used above?

The government isn't involved. There is no censorship. It's the private market in action. Isn't that a good thing?

Of course it's ok. But these artists are just conveniently in line with current politics and getting immediate positive attention and whatever comes with it. It's not like Joan Mitchell is doing something risqué and losing tons of money for canceling Spotify.

I hope Spotify responds calmly, like Trader Joe, when there was a social pressure to change the names of their product to fit current woke nonsense agenda. I can't despise anti-vaxxers more, but I really hate the idea that people are not able to think for themselves and Neil Young protecting me from "the lies" on Spotify.

But why can’t Neil Young decide he doesn’t want to share a platform with an antivaxxer and exercise his right to control the intellectual property he owns? Why are conservatives so opposed to somebody exercising their own rights in their own intellectual property? That is what I do not get about the conservative position about this. It seems exactly the opposite of support for the free market, personal choice, and capitalism.

this is not conservatism, it's libertarianism. sometimes, they go together, sometimes not.

I am not a conservative nor a liberatarian but I will explain why some people are against this.

There is nuance that many people have a hard time understanding. I agree that it is Neil’s choice to remove his music from the platform. It is 100% his right. However, I disagree that that it is the right decision to attempt to deplatform those with unpopular views, which is what people like Neil are trying to pressure Spotify to do. Now, again, Spotify 100% has the right to remove Neil or Joe. However, while I agree it is the their right to do so, my opinion is that it is not the right decision for large open platforms to ban users for unpopular views. As another poster commented, it is alarming that so many people are unwilling and unable to engage with those who they disagree with and prefer to silence them instead.

Okay, but then what do you want someone like Neil Young to do? Is he supposed to allow use of his intellectual property against his choice by a platform that he views as harmful?

I don't understand why supposed conservatives want to control Young's use of his own intellectual property. It seems very hypocritical.

Neil Young can do whatever he wants. Just like country music stations can do whatever they want. Neil could have just removed his music, but he didn't do that did he. He started a campaign to remove Joe Rogan, demanding that Spotify remove him. I don't listen to Joe Rogan but googling shows that he tells his audience that he is not a doctor and they should not consult his show for medical advice. You can't stop people from making foolish decisions and you can't stop people from having opinions which are different than yours, and you cant force people to acknowledge facts. Banning them only isolates them further.

Do you think Neil Young should be forced to keep his music on Spotify or not?

Of course not.

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I joined.

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Anonymous wrote:Really surprised to see so many conservatives opposed to the free market. But maybe I shouldn't be?

Like who?

Trump JR, Rand pail, Boebart … the usuals

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Anonymous wrote:It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

This is where I am. My immediate reaction was to cancel Spotify immediately but the more I think about it the more I stall in doing it. When and where does it end? I mean, I'm not even sure I agree with Neil Young on all of his beliefs. So why am I going to helter skelter go running after him and then potentially find out that he supports something I don't. Then what do I do? I mean, I detest Joe Ragan and I think he is a humongous a$$hole but he isn't the entirety of Spotify. I don't know. I am going to keep thinking about it. I just don't want to end up paying for 10 different apps because they stand for different things.

You choose where it ends for you. Cancelling Spotify because they provide a platform for Joe Rogan to spew hazardous misinformation does not mean you'd be purchasing all of Neil Young's music, so you don't have to agree with him on everything. It's just a question of whether or not you support enabling the spreading of dangerous misinformation.

Then what we really need to do is cancel with our ISPs and stop using the internet, period, no?

Exactly. Because if we do follow your logic, Poster #3, then I chose to ban YOU first. I don't have to agree with you on everything, I simply don't support your willingness to keep spreading dangerous misinformation via the internet.

If you cancel your ISP, you're not banning me, you're banning yourself. Which wouldn't bother me at all. And you may think you're making a point by taking it to ridiculous lengths, but it's undeniable that hate groups and conspiracy groups have been able to increase their influence using the internet.

Sweetie, learn to read. I'm not canceling my ISP, I am saying that we're going to ban you. Bye bye. Have fun in your la la land.

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Anonymous wrote:Really surprised to see so many conservatives opposed to the free market. But maybe I shouldn't be?

Like who?

Rohan for one

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Anonymous wrote:It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

This is where I am. My immediate reaction was to cancel Spotify immediately but the more I think about it the more I stall in doing it. When and where does it end? I mean, I'm not even sure I agree with Neil Young on all of his beliefs. So why am I going to helter skelter go running after him and then potentially find out that he supports something I don't. Then what do I do? I mean, I detest Joe Ragan and I think he is a humongous a$$hole but he isn't the entirety of Spotify. I don't know. I am going to keep thinking about it. I just don't want to end up paying for 10 different apps because they stand for different things.

You choose where it ends for you. Cancelling Spotify because they provide a platform for Joe Rogan to spew hazardous misinformation does not mean you'd be purchasing all of Neil Young's music, so you don't have to agree with him on everything. It's just a question of whether or not you support enabling the spreading of dangerous misinformation.

Then what we really need to do is cancel with our ISPs and stop using the internet, period, no?

Exactly. Because if we do follow your logic, Poster #3, then I chose to ban YOU first. I don't have to agree with you on everything, I simply don't support your willingness to keep spreading dangerous misinformation via the internet.

If you cancel your ISP, you're not banning me, you're banning yourself. Which wouldn't bother me at all. And you may think you're making a point by taking it to ridiculous lengths, but it's undeniable that hate groups and conspiracy groups have been able to increase their influence using the internet.

Sweetie, learn to read. I'm not canceling my ISP, I am saying that we're going to ban you. Bye bye. Have fun in your la la land.

You're not subscribing to me. I'm also not spreading dangerous misinformation.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

This is where I am. My immediate reaction was to cancel Spotify immediately but the more I think about it the more I stall in doing it. When and where does it end? I mean, I'm not even sure I agree with Neil Young on all of his beliefs. So why am I going to helter skelter go running after him and then potentially find out that he supports something I don't. Then what do I do? I mean, I detest Joe Ragan and I think he is a humongous a$$hole but he isn't the entirety of Spotify. I don't know. I am going to keep thinking about it. I just don't want to end up paying for 10 different apps because they stand for different things.

You choose where it ends for you. Cancelling Spotify because they provide a platform for Joe Rogan to spew hazardous misinformation does not mean you'd be purchasing all of Neil Young's music, so you don't have to agree with him on everything. It's just a question of whether or not you support enabling the spreading of dangerous misinformation.

Then what we really need to do is cancel with our ISPs and stop using the internet, period, no?

Just stop watching FOX news channel.

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Joe rogan is not an anti vaxxer. Do you even listen or just believe what CNN tellers you?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure none of the imbeciles calling to cancel Spotify have ever listened to Rogan and just blindly lap up whatever the media throws into the trough. You people are embarrassingly stupid sheep.

Ironic post. I have, in fact, listed to Rogan after encountering someone who made similar comments IRL. It was worse than I expected. He needs to be canceled.

I watched that horrific interview he did at the beginning of covid times in which he interviewed a well known epidemiologist. It was horrible. That moron would not stop trying to get this scientist to say that getting in a sauna with really hot air would kill the virus. The doctor explained slowly and more than once that the heat air would have to be so hot it wouldn't be compatible with life. The moron would not let it go. He seems very slow and dim-witted.

That was Dr Osterholm. I thought it was a good episode, it helped me understand the virus better.

It was a great episode. How many lies have cable news (fox and MSNBC) spread? And why do you think rogan gets so many intelligent guests?

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Anonymous wrote:Joe rogan is not an anti vaxxer. Do you even listen or just believe what CNN tellers you?

I believe what 270 doctors have said.

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Anonymous wrote:Joe rogan is not an anti vaxxer. Do you even listen or just believe what CNN tellers you?

I believe what 270 doctors have said.

It wasn’t 270 doctors . This has been widely exposed . And honestly even if it were 270 that is a tiny number . Is that the best they can do?