Cancel Spotify

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Anonymous wrote:Lol washed up Neil young vs current higher ratings and streamed Rogan? Who do you think is going to be dropped?

He’s not washed up, he’s an older established musician. Joe Rogan is a talentless hack.

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Why are people canceling now? He has said so many horrible things about women but no one organized then?

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It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

This is where I am. My immediate reaction was to cancel Spotify immediately but the more I think about it the more I stall in doing it. When and where does it end? I mean, I'm not even sure I agree with Neil Young on all of his beliefs. So why am I going to helter skelter go running after him and then potentially find out that he supports something I don't. Then what do I do? I mean, I detest Joe Ragan and I think he is a humongous a$$hole but he isn't the entirety of Spotify. I don't know. I am going to keep thinking about it. I just don't want to end up paying for 10 different apps because they stand for different things.

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Anonymous wrote:This is CRAZY. You’re asking people to cancel bc Spotify carries Joe Rohan? Wow.

This is what’s wrong with America now. If you don’t agree with ME, then I’ll boycott you!

Lifelong Democrat here. This sort of crap backfires and we’re going to lose the midterms and it’s because of dumb things like this, among other silly stunts.

This big time. “If you don’t agree with me, I’m going to ruin your livelihood” is not a super attractive platform. November is going to be an bloodbath that will make democrats yearn for the good old days when Youngkin won VA by a little.

It's a free market and people can spend their money how they want.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

This is where I am. My immediate reaction was to cancel Spotify immediately but the more I think about it the more I stall in doing it. When and where does it end? I mean, I'm not even sure I agree with Neil Young on all of his beliefs. So why am I going to helter skelter go running after him and then potentially find out that he supports something I don't. Then what do I do? I mean, I detest Joe Ragan and I think he is a humongous a$$hole but he isn't the entirety of Spotify. I don't know. I am going to keep thinking about it. I just don't want to end up paying for 10 different apps because they stand for different things.

You choose where it ends for you. Cancelling Spotify because they provide a platform for Joe Rogan to spew hazardous misinformation does not mean you'd be purchasing all of Neil Young's music, so you don't have to agree with him on everything. It's just a question of whether or not you support enabling the spreading of dangerous misinformation.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol washed up Neil young vs current higher ratings and streamed Rogan? Who do you think is going to be dropped?

That’s beside the point. Standing up for your principles the way Neil Young is is worth doing even if it won’t get results.

Yea, but it doesn't cost him anything or very little. Let's see which big popstar will do the same.
...No, not you, Joni Mitchell.

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Anonymous wrote:I genuinely don't understand the conservatives who are unhappy about cancel Spotify. Aren't you in favor of capitalism? Isn't this just capitalism at work? Like the Dixie Chicks example someone used above?

The government isn't involved. There is no censorship. It's the private market in action. Isn't that a good thing?

Of course it's ok. But these artists are just conveniently in line with current politics and getting immediate positive attention and whatever comes with it. It's not like Joan Mitchell is doing something risqué and losing tons of money for canceling Spotify.

I hope Spotify responds calmly, like Trader Joe, when there was a social pressure to change the names of their product to fit current woke nonsense agenda. I can't despise anti-vaxxers more, but I really hate the idea that people are not able to think for themselves and Neil Young protecting me from "the lies" on Spotify.

Sorry if you hate the idea, but it really is true. The pandemic effects everyone.

Pandemic - yes. Joe Rogan - no. Why are we giving him so much credit?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

This is where I am. My immediate reaction was to cancel Spotify immediately but the more I think about it the more I stall in doing it. When and where does it end? I mean, I'm not even sure I agree with Neil Young on all of his beliefs. So why am I going to helter skelter go running after him and then potentially find out that he supports something I don't. Then what do I do? I mean, I detest Joe Ragan and I think he is a humongous a$$hole but he isn't the entirety of Spotify. I don't know. I am going to keep thinking about it. I just don't want to end up paying for 10 different apps because they stand for different things.

You choose where it ends for you. Cancelling Spotify because they provide a platform for Joe Rogan to spew hazardous misinformation does not mean you'd be purchasing all of Neil Young's music, so you don't have to agree with him on everything. It's just a question of whether or not you support enabling the spreading of dangerous misinformation.

Please tell me if YOU have ever listened to one episode of his podcast??? Listen and fact check one and get back to me. I’ll wait….

Hint- I betcha you don’t …

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Anonymous wrote:I genuinely don't understand the conservatives who are unhappy about cancel Spotify. Aren't you in favor of capitalism? Isn't this just capitalism at work? Like the Dixie Chicks example someone used above?

The government isn't involved. There is no censorship. It's the private market in action. Isn't that a good thing?

Of course it's ok. But these artists are just conveniently in line with current politics and getting immediate positive attention and whatever comes with it. It's not like Joan Mitchell is doing something risqué and losing tons of money for canceling Spotify.

I hope Spotify responds calmly, like Trader Joe, when there was a social pressure to change the names of their product to fit current woke nonsense agenda. I can't despise anti-vaxxers more, but I really hate the idea that people are not able to think for themselves and Neil Young protecting me from "the lies" on Spotify.

But why can’t Neil Young decide he doesn’t want to share a platform with an antivaxxer and exercise his right to control the intellectual property he owns? Why are conservatives so opposed to somebody exercising their own rights in their own intellectual property? That is what I do not get about the conservative position about this. It seems exactly the opposite of support for the free market, personal choice, and capitalism.

this is not conservatism, it's libertarianism. sometimes, they go together, sometimes not.

I am not a conservative nor a liberatarian but I will explain why some people are against this.

There is nuance that many people have a hard time understanding. I agree that it is Neil’s choice to remove his music from the platform. It is 100% his right. However, I disagree that that it is the right decision to attempt to deplatform those with unpopular views, which is what people like Neil are trying to pressure Spotify to do. Now, again, Spotify 100% has the right to remove Neil or Joe. However, while I agree it is the their right to do so, my opinion is that it is not the right decision for large open platforms to ban users for unpopular views. As another poster commented, it is alarming that so many people are unwilling and unable to engage with those who they disagree with and prefer to silence them instead.

Okay, but then what do you want someone like Neil Young to do? Is he supposed to allow use of his intellectual property against his choice by a platform that he views as harmful?

I don't understand why supposed conservatives want to control Young's use of his own intellectual property. It seems very hypocritical.

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Anonymous wrote:I genuinely don't understand the conservatives who are unhappy about cancel Spotify. Aren't you in favor of capitalism? Isn't this just capitalism at work? Like the Dixie Chicks example someone used above?

The government isn't involved. There is no censorship. It's the private market in action. Isn't that a good thing?

Of course it's ok. But these artists are just conveniently in line with current politics and getting immediate positive attention and whatever comes with it. It's not like Joan Mitchell is doing something risqué and losing tons of money for canceling Spotify.

I hope Spotify responds calmly, like Trader Joe, when there was a social pressure to change the names of their product to fit current woke nonsense agenda. I can't despise anti-vaxxers more, but I really hate the idea that people are not able to think for themselves and Neil Young protecting me from "the lies" on Spotify.

But why can’t Neil Young decide he doesn’t want to share a platform with an antivaxxer and exercise his right to control the intellectual property he owns? Why are conservatives so opposed to somebody exercising their own rights in their own intellectual property? That is what I do not get about the conservative position about this. It seems exactly the opposite of support for the free market, personal choice, and capitalism.

this is not conservatism, it's libertarianism. sometimes, they go together, sometimes not.

I am not a conservative nor a liberatarian but I will explain why some people are against this.

There is nuance that many people have a hard time understanding. I agree that it is Neil’s choice to remove his music from the platform. It is 100% his right. However, I disagree that that it is the right decision to attempt to deplatform those with unpopular views, which is what people like Neil are trying to pressure Spotify to do. Now, again, Spotify 100% has the right to remove Neil or Joe. However, while I agree it is the their right to do so, my opinion is that it is not the right decision for large open platforms to ban users for unpopular views. As another poster commented, it is alarming that so many people are unwilling and unable to engage with those who they disagree with and prefer to silence them instead.

Okay, but then what do you want someone like Neil Young to do? Is he supposed to allow use of his intellectual property against his choice by a platform that he views as harmful?

I don't understand why supposed conservatives want to control Young's use of his own intellectual property. It seems very hypocritical.

Neil Young can do whatever he wants. Just like country music stations can do whatever they want. Neil could have just removed his music, but he didn't do that did he. He started a campaign to remove Joe Rogan, demanding that Spotify remove him. I don't listen to Joe Rogan but googling shows that he tells his audience that he is not a doctor and they should not consult his show for medical advice. You can't stop people from making foolish decisions and you can't stop people from having opinions which are different than yours, and you cant force people to acknowledge facts. Banning them only isolates them further.

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Anonymous wrote:I genuinely don't understand the conservatives who are unhappy about cancel Spotify. Aren't you in favor of capitalism? Isn't this just capitalism at work? Like the Dixie Chicks example someone used above?

The government isn't involved. There is no censorship. It's the private market in action. Isn't that a good thing?

Of course it's ok. But these artists are just conveniently in line with current politics and getting immediate positive attention and whatever comes with it. It's not like Joan Mitchell is doing something risqué and losing tons of money for canceling Spotify.

I hope Spotify responds calmly, like Trader Joe, when there was a social pressure to change the names of their product to fit current woke nonsense agenda. I can't despise anti-vaxxers more, but I really hate the idea that people are not able to think for themselves and Neil Young protecting me from "the lies" on Spotify.

But why can’t Neil Young decide he doesn’t want to share a platform with an antivaxxer and exercise his right to control the intellectual property he owns? Why are conservatives so opposed to somebody exercising their own rights in their own intellectual property? That is what I do not get about the conservative position about this. It seems exactly the opposite of support for the free market, personal choice, and capitalism.

this is not conservatism, it's libertarianism. sometimes, they go together, sometimes not.

I am not a conservative nor a liberatarian but I will explain why some people are against this.

There is nuance that many people have a hard time understanding. I agree that it is Neil’s choice to remove his music from the platform. It is 100% his right. However, I disagree that that it is the right decision to attempt to deplatform those with unpopular views, which is what people like Neil are trying to pressure Spotify to do. Now, again, Spotify 100% has the right to remove Neil or Joe. However, while I agree it is the their right to do so, my opinion is that it is not the right decision for large open platforms to ban users for unpopular views. As another poster commented, it is alarming that so many people are unwilling and unable to engage with those who they disagree with and prefer to silence them instead.

Okay, but then what do you want someone like Neil Young to do? Is he supposed to allow use of his intellectual property against his choice by a platform that he views as harmful?

I don't understand why supposed conservatives want to control Young's use of his own intellectual property. It seems very hypocritical.

Neil Young can do whatever he wants. Just like country music stations can do whatever they want. Neil could have just removed his music, but he didn't do that did he. He started a campaign to remove Joe Rogan, demanding that Spotify remove him. I don't listen to Joe Rogan but googling shows that he tells his audience that he is not a doctor and they should not consult his show for medical advice. You can't stop people from making foolish decisions and you can't stop people from having opinions which are different than yours, and you cant force people to acknowledge facts. Banning them only isolates them further.

Do you think Neil Young should be forced to keep his music on Spotify or not?

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Anonymous wrote:I genuinely don't understand the conservatives who are unhappy about cancel Spotify. Aren't you in favor of capitalism? Isn't this just capitalism at work? Like the Dixie Chicks example someone used above?

The government isn't involved. There is no censorship. It's the private market in action. Isn't that a good thing?

Of course it's ok. But these artists are just conveniently in line with current politics and getting immediate positive attention and whatever comes with it. It's not like Joan Mitchell is doing something risqué and losing tons of money for canceling Spotify.

I hope Spotify responds calmly, like Trader Joe, when there was a social pressure to change the names of their product to fit current woke nonsense agenda. I can't despise anti-vaxxers more, but I really hate the idea that people are not able to think for themselves and Neil Young protecting me from "the lies" on Spotify.

But why can’t Neil Young decide he doesn’t want to share a platform with an antivaxxer and exercise his right to control the intellectual property he owns? Why are conservatives so opposed to somebody exercising their own rights in their own intellectual property? That is what I do not get about the conservative position about this. It seems exactly the opposite of support for the free market, personal choice, and capitalism.

this is not conservatism, it's libertarianism. sometimes, they go together, sometimes not.

I am not a conservative nor a liberatarian but I will explain why some people are against this.

There is nuance that many people have a hard time understanding. I agree that it is Neil’s choice to remove his music from the platform. It is 100% his right. However, I disagree that that it is the right decision to attempt to deplatform those with unpopular views, which is what people like Neil are trying to pressure Spotify to do. Now, again, Spotify 100% has the right to remove Neil or Joe. However, while I agree it is the their right to do so, my opinion is that it is not the right decision for large open platforms to ban users for unpopular views. As another poster commented, it is alarming that so many people are unwilling and unable to engage with those who they disagree with and prefer to silence them instead.

Okay, but then what do you want someone like Neil Young to do? Is he supposed to allow use of his intellectual property against his choice by a platform that he views as harmful?

I don't understand why supposed conservatives want to control Young's use of his own intellectual property. It seems very hypocritical.

Neil Young can do whatever he wants. Just like country music stations can do whatever they want. Neil could have just removed his music, but he didn't do that did he. He started a campaign to remove Joe Rogan, demanding that Spotify remove him. I don't listen to Joe Rogan but googling shows that he tells his audience that he is not a doctor and they should not consult his show for medical advice. You can't stop people from making foolish decisions and you can't stop people from having opinions which are different than yours, and you cant force people to acknowledge facts. Banning them only isolates them further.

But that’s the liberal way. Don’t worry they have no chance in 2024

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Anonymous wrote:It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

This is where I am. My immediate reaction was to cancel Spotify immediately but the more I think about it the more I stall in doing it. When and where does it end? I mean, I'm not even sure I agree with Neil Young on all of his beliefs. So why am I going to helter skelter go running after him and then potentially find out that he supports something I don't. Then what do I do? I mean, I detest Joe Ragan and I think he is a humongous a$$hole but he isn't the entirety of Spotify. I don't know. I am going to keep thinking about it. I just don't want to end up paying for 10 different apps because they stand for different things.

You choose where it ends for you. Cancelling Spotify because they provide a platform for Joe Rogan to spew hazardous misinformation does not mean you'd be purchasing all of Neil Young's music, so you don't have to agree with him on everything. It's just a question of whether or not you support enabling the spreading of dangerous misinformation.

Then what we really need to do is cancel with our ISPs and stop using the internet, period, no?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s bad enough paying for multiple streaming services to watch popular shows, I really hope we don’t start having musicians pick and choose politically, such that if I like a song I need to pay for yet another platform.

This is where I am. My immediate reaction was to cancel Spotify immediately but the more I think about it the more I stall in doing it. When and where does it end? I mean, I'm not even sure I agree with Neil Young on all of his beliefs. So why am I going to helter skelter go running after him and then potentially find out that he supports something I don't. Then what do I do? I mean, I detest Joe Ragan and I think he is a humongous a$$hole but he isn't the entirety of Spotify. I don't know. I am going to keep thinking about it. I just don't want to end up paying for 10 different apps because they stand for different things.

You choose where it ends for you. Cancelling Spotify because they provide a platform for Joe Rogan to spew hazardous misinformation does not mean you'd be purchasing all of Neil Young's music, so you don't have to agree with him on everything. It's just a question of whether or not you support enabling the spreading of dangerous misinformation.

Then what we really need to do is cancel with our ISPs and stop using the internet, period, no?

Exactly. Because if we do follow your logic, Poster #3, then I chose to ban YOU first. I don't have to agree with you on everything, I simply don't support your willingness to keep spreading dangerous misinformation via the internet.