Elrich Leads MoCo CE Polls by Large Margin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you don’t think it’s of any consequence to the Executives proposed budget that a supermajority of the council (Jawando, Riemer, Glass, Hucker, Navarro, Rice, Katz) and MCPS were in favor of removing SROs from schools?

While instead, Elrich’s more natural constituents, public sector employees (police and teachers/principals) were in favor of keeping them?

It’s fascinating that you recognize all of this and yet find the only person responsible to be Elrich. Meanwhile McKnight has been very clear and the most vocal that MCPS doesn’t want them.

Both Jawando and Riemer have been very clear, absent their actions on the council, SROs would still be in schools. We should believe them and the record supports that.

So the Council is in charge of Elrich? He certainly never fell in line with Council when he was on Council, and most of the Council really dislikes him. And vice versa.

It's not an either/or, here. But at the end of the day, Elrich pulled them and he can put them back the fastest, if that's what he chooses to do.

Of course there were a lot of negative public conversations about SROs. But there was no super-majority opinion on Council. Katz certainly didn't want them gone. For the longest time, Rice didn't either, but he did flip last minute.

Hucker was silent on the issue as far as I can tell. Same with Friedson. Not sure where Glass is on this issue.

But I have a question, other than the past week or so after Magruder, where has Dr. McKnight vocally come out against the SRO program? Because I can't find anything other than her speaking about how they are moving forward with the changed model. Not anti-SRO so much as explaining the new approach.

Both Hucker and Glass voted along with Riemer and Jawando in fall 2020 to cut SRO positions from the budget and reallocate the funds. That vote failed 5-4. With that vote, there was no ambiguity about where they stood. Furthermore, if Katz didn’t support removing SROs then he should co-sponsor legislation to that effect.

Elrich showed poor leadership to go against his instincts. But when he’s up again the recommendations of MCPS and the supermajority of the council, including the view of both Black councilmembers and another with mixed race kids, he listened and followed their lead. He’s done this his entire career, because he’s legitimately a sincere person. It’s one of his best qualities and also one of his worst because it demonstrates poor leadership and that’s always been one of his faults. He’s a poor leader.

With that said, even if he wasn’t sincere, no white Democratic Executive in that circumstance would have done anything differently with the way the politics played out. Leggett would not have acceded to these demands, but there’s an obvious reason why he would be capable to stand up to the only other Black political leaders in this county.

[Anonymous]

The tail that wags the collective Jawando/Elrich dog is Silver Spring Justice Coalition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you don’t think it’s of any consequence to the Executives proposed budget that a supermajority of the council (Jawando, Riemer, Glass, Hucker, Navarro, Rice, Katz) and MCPS were in favor of removing SROs from schools?

While instead, Elrich’s more natural constituents, public sector employees (police and teachers/principals) were in favor of keeping them?

It’s fascinating that you recognize all of this and yet find the only person responsible to be Elrich. Meanwhile McKnight has been very clear and the most vocal that MCPS doesn’t want them.

Both Jawando and Riemer have been very clear, absent their actions on the council, SROs would still be in schools. We should believe them and the record supports that.

So the Council is in charge of Elrich? He certainly never fell in line with Council when he was on Council, and most of the Council really dislikes him. And vice versa.

It's not an either/or, here. But at the end of the day, Elrich pulled them and he can put them back the fastest, if that's what he chooses to do.

Of course there were a lot of negative public conversations about SROs. But there was no super-majority opinion on Council. Katz certainly didn't want them gone. For the longest time, Rice didn't either, but he did flip last minute.

Hucker was silent on the issue as far as I can tell. Same with Friedson. Not sure where Glass is on this issue.

But I have a question, other than the past week or so after Magruder, where has Dr. McKnight vocally come out against the SRO program? Because I can't find anything other than her speaking about how they are moving forward with the changed model. Not anti-SRO so much as explaining the new approach.

Both Hucker and Glass voted along with Riemer and Jawando in fall 2020 to cut SRO positions from the budget and reallocate the funds. That vote failed 5-4. With that vote, there was no ambiguity about where they stood. Furthermore, if Katz didn’t support removing SROs then he should co-sponsor legislation to that effect.

Elrich showed poor leadership to go against his instincts. But when he’s up again the recommendations of MCPS and the supermajority of the council, including the view of both Black councilmembers and another with mixed race kids, he listened and followed their lead. He’s done this his entire career, because he’s legitimately a sincere person. It’s one of his best qualities and also one of his worst because it demonstrates poor leadership and that’s always been one of his faults. He’s a poor leader.

With that said, even if he wasn’t sincere, no white Democratic Executive in that circumstance would have done anything differently with the way the politics played out. Leggett would not have acceded to these demands, but there’s an obvious reason why he would be capable to stand up to the only other Black political leaders in this county.

What about his black police chief? Who actually knows what public safety is all about? So Elrich chose the opinions of ignorant politicians and not the professionals who do this every day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you don’t think it’s of any consequence to the Executives proposed budget that a supermajority of the council (Jawando, Riemer, Glass, Hucker, Navarro, Rice, Katz) and MCPS were in favor of removing SROs from schools?

While instead, Elrich’s more natural constituents, public sector employees (police and teachers/principals) were in favor of keeping them?

It’s fascinating that you recognize all of this and yet find the only person responsible to be Elrich. Meanwhile McKnight has been very clear and the most vocal that MCPS doesn’t want them.

Both Jawando and Riemer have been very clear, absent their actions on the council, SROs would still be in schools. We should believe them and the record supports that.

So the Council is in charge of Elrich? He certainly never fell in line with Council when he was on Council, and most of the Council really dislikes him. And vice versa.

It's not an either/or, here. But at the end of the day, Elrich pulled them and he can put them back the fastest, if that's what he chooses to do.

Of course there were a lot of negative public conversations about SROs. But there was no super-majority opinion on Council. Katz certainly didn't want them gone. For the longest time, Rice didn't either, but he did flip last minute.

Hucker was silent on the issue as far as I can tell. Same with Friedson. Not sure where Glass is on this issue.

But I have a question, other than the past week or so after Magruder, where has Dr. McKnight vocally come out against the SRO program? Because I can't find anything other than her speaking about how they are moving forward with the changed model. Not anti-SRO so much as explaining the new approach.

Both Hucker and Glass voted along with Riemer and Jawando in fall 2020 to cut SRO positions from the budget and reallocate the funds. That vote failed 5-4. With that vote, there was no ambiguity about where they stood. Furthermore, if Katz didn’t support removing SROs then he should co-sponsor legislation to that effect.

Elrich showed poor leadership to go against his instincts. But when he’s up again the recommendations of MCPS and the supermajority of the council, including the view of both Black councilmembers and another with mixed race kids, he listened and followed their lead. He’s done this his entire career, because he’s legitimately a sincere person. It’s one of his best qualities and also one of his worst because it demonstrates poor leadership and that’s always been one of his faults. He’s a poor leader.

With that said, even if he wasn’t sincere, no white Democratic Executive in that circumstance would have done anything differently with the way the politics played out. Leggett would not have acceded to these demands, but there’s an obvious reason why he would be capable to stand up to the only other Black political leaders in this county.

What about his black police chief? Who actually knows what public safety is all about? So Elrich chose the opinions of ignorant politicians and not the professionals who do this every day.

In the press conference, the police chief agreed with McKnight said he supported ending the SRO program too! But also says he wants to figure out a better way to bring back officers inside schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you don’t think it’s of any consequence to the Executives proposed budget that a supermajority of the council (Jawando, Riemer, Glass, Hucker, Navarro, Rice, Katz) and MCPS were in favor of removing SROs from schools?

While instead, Elrich’s more natural constituents, public sector employees (police and teachers/principals) were in favor of keeping them?

It’s fascinating that you recognize all of this and yet find the only person responsible to be Elrich. Meanwhile McKnight has been very clear and the most vocal that MCPS doesn’t want them.

Both Jawando and Riemer have been very clear, absent their actions on the council, SROs would still be in schools. We should believe them and the record supports that.

So the Council is in charge of Elrich? He certainly never fell in line with Council when he was on Council, and most of the Council really dislikes him. And vice versa.

It's not an either/or, here. But at the end of the day, Elrich pulled them and he can put them back the fastest, if that's what he chooses to do.

Of course there were a lot of negative public conversations about SROs. But there was no super-majority opinion on Council. Katz certainly didn't want them gone. For the longest time, Rice didn't either, but he did flip last minute.

Hucker was silent on the issue as far as I can tell. Same with Friedson. Not sure where Glass is on this issue.

But I have a question, other than the past week or so after Magruder, where has Dr. McKnight vocally come out against the SRO program? Because I can't find anything other than her speaking about how they are moving forward with the changed model. Not anti-SRO so much as explaining the new approach.

Both Hucker and Glass voted along with Riemer and Jawando in fall 2020 to cut SRO positions from the budget and reallocate the funds. That vote failed 5-4. With that vote, there was no ambiguity about where they stood. Furthermore, if Katz didn’t support removing SROs then he should co-sponsor legislation to that effect.

Elrich showed poor leadership to go against his instincts. But when he’s up again the recommendations of MCPS and the supermajority of the council, including the view of both Black councilmembers and another with mixed race kids, he listened and followed their lead. He’s done this his entire career, because he’s legitimately a sincere person. It’s one of his best qualities and also one of his worst because it demonstrates poor leadership and that’s always been one of his faults. He’s a poor leader.

With that said, even if he wasn’t sincere, no white Democratic Executive in that circumstance would have done anything differently with the way the politics played out. Leggett would not have acceded to these demands, but there’s an obvious reason why he would be capable to stand up to the only other Black political leaders in this county.

What about his black police chief? Who actually knows what public safety is all about? So Elrich chose the opinions of ignorant politicians and not the professionals who do this every day.

In the press conference, the police chief agreed with McKnight said he supported ending the SRO program too! But also says he wants to figure out a better way to bring back officers inside schools.

Not the old program. But not against an improved one.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/police-fire/we-should-revisit-that-police-chief-jones-discusses-increased-officer-presence-in-schools/

[Anonymous]

^^^ So Elrich, McKnight and the Police Chief are all in agreement about the removal of SROs. Almost conveniently so.

Riemer and Jawando wanted to go even further.

But Elrich is uniquely to blame and was the one calling the shots? Hmmm….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^ So Elrich, McKnight and the Police Chief are all in agreement about the removal of SROs. Almost conveniently so.

Riemer and Jawando wanted to go even further.

But Elrich is uniquely to blame and was the one calling the shots? Hmmm….

I don't agree with Elrich, Jawando, or McKnight, but I respect them for owning their positions. What about Riemer? He's been trying to change the subject to literally anything else since the Magruder shooting happened. This is how he is, and it's why I can't support him. Just because he takes a position one day doesn't mean he'll fight for that position or even have the same position the next day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ So Elrich, McKnight and the Police Chief are all in agreement about the removal of SROs. Almost conveniently so.

Riemer and Jawando wanted to go even further.

But Elrich is uniquely to blame and was the one calling the shots? Hmmm….

I don't agree with Elrich, Jawando, or McKnight, but I respect them for owning their positions. What about Riemer? He's been trying to change the subject to literally anything else since the Magruder shooting happened. This is how he is, and it's why I can't support him. Just because he takes a position one day doesn't mean he'll fight for that position or even have the same position the next day.

It’s pretty disturbing. Really. The man is quite shameless.

[Anonymous]

Really good summary of why we need someone else, not Elrich again.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/opinion/opinion-montgomery-county-needs-an-executive-who-can-take-on-big-problems/

[Anonymous]

Marcus Erlich is the best mayor MoCo has had. I was born, raised, and retired in this county so I know what I'm talking about

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really good summary of why we need someone else, not Elrich again.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/opinion/opinion-montgomery-county-needs-an-executive-who-can-take-on-big-problems/

That's an opinion piece. Everyone has one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really good summary of why we need someone else, not Elrich again.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/opinion/opinion-montgomery-county-needs-an-executive-who-can-take-on-big-problems/

That's an opinion piece. Everyone has one.

Yea, like the PP's "Marcus Erlich is the best mayor MoCo has had." -- and Elrich is not the mayor, so that opinion is incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Saw the writing on the wall and left in the pandemic. Looks like you will have little to no business growth for another term. Viva Moco!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really good summary of why we need someone else, not Elrich again.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/opinion/opinion-montgomery-county-needs-an-executive-who-can-take-on-big-problems/

That's an opinion piece. Everyone has one.

Yea, like the PP's "Marcus Erlich is the best mayor MoCo has had." -- and Elrich is not the mayor, so that opinion is incorrect.

Mayor, governor, whatever you want to call it, he is the top leader of the county and that is what matters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really good summary of why we need someone else, not Elrich again.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/opinion/opinion-montgomery-county-needs-an-executive-who-can-take-on-big-problems/

That's an opinion piece. Everyone has one.

Yea, like the PP's "Marcus Erlich is the best mayor MoCo has had." -- and Elrich is not the mayor, so that opinion is incorrect.

I'm pretty sure that 'Marcus is the best Mayor' post was a troll, fyi