Huma Abedin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm immensely curious at what people like Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's campaign chief, have to say about the decision to key Huma Abedin. I'm guessing we'll never know.

Key?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm immensely curious at what people like Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's campaign chief, have to say about the decision to key Huma Abedin. I'm guessing we'll never know.

Key?

Keep

[Anonymous]

I’m responding the the news thread that has been diverted back to here.

American Muslim here. I have not read Huma’s book. But understand where she comes from. Huma was explicitly not allowed to marry Anthony Weiner unless he converted and thus was and remains in an illegitimate relationship in the eyes of her family and the community she comes from. She did cross that threshold which takes a lot. You can roll your eyes at this, but I’m just explaining the background and nuance on how she gave up a lot including how her community views her son to be with Anthony Weiner and that is why she stuck to him for much longer than she should have.

She was also clearly enamored by the public political life of the Clintons and wanted that very badly for herself, literally giving up the tenants she was raised by to be with Weiner. She also didn’t have many choices in a romantic partner. Islamophobia is real and there are not many Muslim politicians period let alone congressmen in that period and there were almost no Muslims besides Huma that worked behind the scenes at that time.

[Anonymous]

PP from the other thread here. There are two kinds of American Muslim women: the first are the very religious ones who are fully involved in their conservative Muslim communities in America. They go to Muslim private schools and socialize at mosques and marry a fellow Muslim man. The second are the kind like Huma and myself. We were raised in conservative households with conservative values but for one reason or the other, leave the nest and find ourselves integrated into "normal" and mainstream American life. We start to define ourselves as Americans first and Muslim second. We have White American friends, colleagues neighbors and boyfriends. There are many of us like this. We do not wear hijabs, we go to happy hours, we party. But usually there are always cultural and religious hang-ups.

We have talked at length about this with each other. We may be 28 or 35 but mentally we are like 14 with a first crush. We have no models of successful romantic relationships in the western sense except through movies and TV. We usually also are very sheltered in the affairs of the heart and have extraordinary Muslim fathers who are exceedingly devoted to their families. Some of the things that trigger common breakups- we have not truly experienced; alcoholism, sexual compatibility, mental illness. We have heard of these things yes, but experiencing them first hand is different.

I married my first love, a white American man when I was 27. I was a virgin and he was my first everything. He charmed me and wooed me and I fell head over heels. What I did not realize at the time was that he was deeply emotionally stunted, possibly a narcissist and had issues with alcohol. I did not grow up around alcohol so I mistook his heavy drinking as normal American boy blowing off steam. I mistook his love bombing for eagerness and deep love for me. I thought his immaturity was innocence. I also had hang ups about sex and we were married for a whole year before we finally had PIV sex. We are still married but its VERY VERY hard. I would've picked differently if I had more romantic experience and knew myself more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m responding the the news thread that has been diverted back to here.

American Muslim here. I have not read Huma’s book. But understand where she comes from. Huma was explicitly not allowed to marry Anthony Weiner unless he converted and thus was and remains in an illegitimate relationship in the eyes of her family and the community she comes from. She did cross that threshold which takes a lot. You can roll your eyes at this, but I’m just explaining the background and nuance on how she gave up a lot including how her community views her son to be with Anthony Weiner and that is why she stuck to him for much longer than she should have.

She was also clearly enamored by the public political life of the Clintons and wanted that very badly for herself, literally giving up the tenants she was raised by to be with Weiner. She also didn’t have many choices in a romantic partner. Islamophobia is real and there are not many Muslim politicians period let alone congressmen in that period and there were almost no Muslims besides Huma that worked behind the scenes at that time.

Muslim American woman here. Huma's weakness seems to be her romantic naivete and her thirst for power or being around powerful people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP from the other thread here. There are two kinds of American Muslim women: the first are the very religious ones who are fully involved in their conservative Muslim communities in America. They go to Muslim private schools and socialize at mosques and marry a fellow Muslim man. The second are the kind like Huma and myself. We were raised in conservative households with conservative values but for one reason or the other, leave the nest and find ourselves integrated into "normal" and mainstream American life. We start to define ourselves as Americans first and Muslim second. We have White American friends, colleagues neighbors and boyfriends. There are many of us like this. We do not wear hijabs, we go to happy hours, we party. But usually there are always cultural and religious hang-ups.

We have talked at length about this with each other. We may be 28 or 35 but mentally we are like 14 with a first crush. We have no models of successful romantic relationships in the western sense except through movies and TV. We usually also are very sheltered in the affairs of the heart and have extraordinary Muslim fathers who are exceedingly devoted to their families. Some of the things that trigger common breakups- we have not truly experienced; alcoholism, sexual compatibility, mental illness. We have heard of these things yes, but experiencing them first hand is different.

I married my first love, a white American man when I was 27. I was a virgin and he was my first everything. He charmed me and wooed me and I fell head over heels. What I did not realize at the time was that he was deeply emotionally stunted, possibly a narcissist and had issues with alcohol. I did not grow up around alcohol so I mistook his heavy drinking as normal American boy blowing off steam. I mistook his love bombing for eagerness and deep love for me. I thought his immaturity was innocence. I also had hang ups about sex and we were married for a whole year before we finally had PIV sex. We are still married but its VERY VERY hard. I would've picked differently if I had more romantic experience and knew myself more.

Wow. I come from a Muslim family too- not as conservative because they are Muslim but more so because they come over to the states as adults and still have that old world mentality about relationships. I get it. You’re so naive with your first relationship you have absolutely no clue - no role models as you say and no one really in your family to talk to about it. This makes so much sense.

[Anonymous]

By the way, Huma did wear Hijab when she first started off at GWU.

I’m not a muhajiba, and really am trying not to be judgy but Huma keeps bringing up her faith in her interview and she really went off the deep end to be with Anthony Weiner for someone who considers their faith to be very important.

I cannot imagine the “told you sos” from her mom snd brother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By the way, Huma did wear Hijab when she first started off at GWU.

I’m not a muhajiba, and really am trying not to be judgy but Huma keeps bringing up her faith in her interview and she really went off the deep end to be with Anthony Weiner for someone who considers their faith to be very important.

I cannot imagine the “told you sos” from her mom snd brother.

After they had to fly out to Saudi Arabia while Huma was pregnant and on the job with Hillary in 2011 I can’t imagine they didn’t say something then to her. But she wouldn’t hear it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m responding the the news thread that has been diverted back to here.

American Muslim here. I have not read Huma’s book. But understand where she comes from. Huma was explicitly not allowed to marry Anthony Weiner unless he converted and thus was and remains in an illegitimate relationship in the eyes of her family and the community she comes from. She did cross that threshold which takes a lot. You can roll your eyes at this, but I’m just explaining the background and nuance on how she gave up a lot including how her community views her son to be with Anthony Weiner and that is why she stuck to him for much longer than she should have.

She was also clearly enamored by the public political life of the Clintons and wanted that very badly for herself, literally giving up the tenants she was raised by to be with Weiner. She also didn’t have many choices in a romantic partner. Islamophobia is real and there are not many Muslim politicians period let alone congressmen in that period and there were almost no Muslims besides Huma that worked behind the scenes at that time.

It's true she would not have many options in the desi community (especially not now!) but there are many options outside of the community. Her chances for the second non-desi husband are not affected by the Wiener debacle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By the way, Huma did wear Hijab when she first started off at GWU.

I’m not a muhajiba, and really am trying not to be judgy but Huma keeps bringing up her faith in her interview and she really went off the deep end to be with Anthony Weiner for someone who considers their faith to be very important.

I cannot imagine the “told you sos” from her mom snd brother.

Definitely, as a Muslim American, I can't even imagine the shame and embarrassment she caused her family in their extended community. She also went against her parents wishes by marrying him and he humiliated and betrayed her. Awful situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m responding the the news thread that has been diverted back to here.

American Muslim here. I have not read Huma’s book. But understand where she comes from. Huma was explicitly not allowed to marry Anthony Weiner unless he converted and thus was and remains in an illegitimate relationship in the eyes of her family and the community she comes from. She did cross that threshold which takes a lot. You can roll your eyes at this, but I’m just explaining the background and nuance on how she gave up a lot including how her community views her son to be with Anthony Weiner and that is why she stuck to him for much longer than she should have.

She was also clearly enamored by the public political life of the Clintons and wanted that very badly for herself, literally giving up the tenants she was raised by to be with Weiner. She also didn’t have many choices in a romantic partner. Islamophobia is real and there are not many Muslim politicians period let alone congressmen in that period and there were almost no Muslims besides Huma that worked behind the scenes at that time.

It's true she would not have many options in the desi community (especially not now!) but there are many options outside of the community. Her chances for the second non-desi husband are not affected by the Wiener debacle.

She can definitely marry another rich white guy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP from the other thread here. There are two kinds of American Muslim women: the first are the very religious ones who are fully involved in their conservative Muslim communities in America. They go to Muslim private schools and socialize at mosques and marry a fellow Muslim man. The second are the kind like Huma and myself. We were raised in conservative households with conservative values but for one reason or the other, leave the nest and find ourselves integrated into "normal" and mainstream American life. We start to define ourselves as Americans first and Muslim second. We have White American friends, colleagues neighbors and boyfriends. There are many of us like this. We do not wear hijabs, we go to happy hours, we party. But usually there are always cultural and religious hang-ups.

We have talked at length about this with each other. We may be 28 or 35 but mentally we are like 14 with a first crush. We have no models of successful romantic relationships in the western sense except through movies and TV. We usually also are very sheltered in the affairs of the heart and have extraordinary Muslim fathers who are exceedingly devoted to their families. Some of the things that trigger common breakups- we have not truly experienced; alcoholism, sexual compatibility, mental illness. We have heard of these things yes, but experiencing them first hand is different.

I married my first love, a white American man when I was 27. I was a virgin and he was my first everything. He charmed me and wooed me and I fell head over heels. What I did not realize at the time was that he was deeply emotionally stunted, possibly a narcissist and had issues with alcohol. I did not grow up around alcohol so I mistook his heavy drinking as normal American boy blowing off steam. I mistook his love bombing for eagerness and deep love for me. I thought his immaturity was innocence. I also had hang ups about sex and we were married for a whole year before we finally had PIV sex. We are still married but its VERY VERY hard. I would've picked differently if I had more romantic experience and knew myself more.

Wow. I come from a Muslim family too- not as conservative because they are Muslim but more so because they come over to the states as adults and still have that old world mentality about relationships. I get it. You’re so naive with your first relationship you have absolutely no clue - no role models as you say and no one really in your family to talk to about it. This makes so much sense.

Maybe she was romantically naive but she was also politically savvy and cut throat. She defended him from Day One - giving interviews throughout all the scandals as if he’d magically stop being a creep and eventually the public would realize their mistake and make him President,

I remember particularly in 2016 there were absurd profiles on her as poised to become the first female Chief of Staff. The first this. The first that. It all exploded in her face because she did it for power. Anthony was supposed to be a box checked. Instead he was a lodestone.

While Abedin is reportedly devastated by her husband's admission of risque online chats and photo swaps with other women, she's told friends she is still committed to the marriage and wants to help Weiner salvage his political career.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/huma-abedin-supports-anthony-weiner-salvage-political-career/story?id=13790860

[Anonymous]

I have zero respect for her. She should have divorced him immediately and didn't think of Hillary C. being almost president.

She's still not divorced and probably living with him which says a lot about her.

H.C. messed up her chance to be president by keeping these two close by. Again very telling...

[Anonymous]

Why are people bullying Human into abandoning her husband? It feels like she still wants to be with him but the public pressure is too much.

I don't find him appearing it all but I actually don't think his fetish or whatever is that, is that bad. It's more weird and embarrassing than anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have zero respect for her. She should have divorced him immediately and didn't think of Hillary C. being almost president.

She's still not divorced and probably living with him which says a lot about her.

H.C. messed up her chance to be president by keeping these two close by. Again very telling...

Good for her! True love is still out there. they should make a movie about them.