Fire in upper NW?

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Forced entry can also mean entering a home uninvited. Like in some states it's considered burglary if you go into someone's home uninvited even if you don't steal anything.

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Anonymous wrote:The police have indicated repeatedly they believe the suspects had familiarity with the Savopoulos's daily lives.

I am starting to think that is just for public panic control.

Well the other information coming out just feeds the panic, no?!

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Anonymous wrote:Someone knew the housekeeper would be there until 3. Someone knew the Mom would be there. Someone knew what time the boy would be home after school. Someone knew Dad wasn't expected home until 7. Someone knew about the security system.

SOMEONE KNEW A LOT OF THINGS. How can this be random ?

I'm finding it hard to swallow reading the new details. It gets more horrific by the day.

Why would they need to know the housekeeper would be there until 3 or any other details to make this work? They could have just knocked hoping that someone would be home and then forced their way in. Of course there was a security system--it's a fancy neighborhood. They could have forced the family to disable it or have done so from outside with a little knowledge about how to do so (experienced burglars might know).

How many perps intentionally break into a home expecting that many people unless they know there will be that many people ? There was no forced entry according to the police.

I don't think these are very good criminals. I think violent, perhaps on drugs. You can just knock on the door, someone answers and you walk in. Forced entry means a window or door was broken. It doesn't mean that they didn't force their way in once someone answered the door.

I doubt they were on drugs. How could they keep it up for 10 hours without slipping up and calling attention to the crime. They had to be fully present to pull this off.

Crystal meth?

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they were there for 10 hours? that makes it seem weird then that the housekeeper was still there when they arrived, since she was supposedly expected to leave at 3PM Wed.. since the fire wasn't discovered til Thurs. afternoon, either the perpetrators were actually in the house for more like 20-24 hours, rather than 10 hours, or???

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Anonymous wrote:The police have indicated repeatedly they believe the suspects had familiarity with the Savopoulos's daily lives.

I am starting to think that is just for public panic control.

I don't. Too many rich people in that neighborhood would be on edge and demand to know if they could be the next targeted.

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Anonymous wrote:Forced entry can also mean entering a home uninvited. Like in some states it's considered burglary if you go into someone's home uninvited even if you don't steal anything.

Ok, yes. I know what burglary (you just have to enter with the intent of committing a felony in most states--which is not necessary stealing and having the intent is enough). Even if "forced entry" there would not be signs of it if they had just gone in once door was open.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing the package left at the door step was the pizza?

Someone posted up thread that the firefighters found $40k in the package.

So they didn't even take the money?? even stranger

Maybe because they didn't think that Savvas delivered as promised and thus they murdered everyone and burned the house down.

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Anonymous wrote:The police have indicated repeatedly they believe the suspects had familiarity with the Savopoulos's daily lives.

I am starting to think that is just for public panic control.

I don't. Too many rich people in that neighborhood would be on edge and demand to know if they could be the next targeted.

So you are agreeing. If they said it was random people all over DC would be in complete panic mode. That neighborhood would be the safest at this point due to all the cops.

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Note to self, remember what page you left off.

Anyhow, I can't get any work done today because I'm so focused in on this case.

I just the perps are caught sooner rather than later.

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Anonymous wrote:Forced entry can also mean entering a home uninvited. Like in some states it's considered burglary if you go into someone's home uninvited even if you don't steal anything.

Ok, yes. I know what burglary (you just have to enter with the intent of committing a felony in most states--which is not necessary stealing and having the intent is enough). Even if "forced entry" there would not be signs of it if they had just gone in once door was open.

My own opinion. I don't think these people were in the habit of answering the door to strangers. I don't think the housekeeper answered the door either. It doesn't sound like she spoke much English. I also don't think they were in the habit of leaving the doors unlocked.

The person or persons were known to the family and were let in.

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Anonymous wrote:I am wondering how media now knows that the victims were bound and threatened? I could understand bound (marks on wrists, etc) but threatened? No one is left that could say what happened in the house during those hours.

If the perps were holding everyone hostage overnight, it's not too farfetched that the victims were threatened and terrorized. Home invading, fire setting murderers aren't nice people.

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Now that details have been reased that the alarm system was disabled and nothing has been able to be retrieved from it's surveillance, my belief is that this was committed by employees of their alarm company. They would have the knowledge of it's workings and know how to disable it and erase the video footage. They also would potentially have a generally knowledge of the family's schedule after going to their home for a maintenance repair/upgrade. I've had to have my alarm company come out multiple times for various reasons and each time it has crossed my mind that the employees certainly have a job of opportunity.

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I want to know what that neighbor saw that was so bizarre!

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Only people that I can think of that would know their schedules and be familiar with their daily lives would be a personal assistant, office manager, personal trainer, something of that sort.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that details have been reased that the alarm system was disabled and nothing has been able to be retrieved from it's surveillance, my belief is that this was committed by employees of their alarm company. They would have the knowledge of it's workings and know how to disable it and erase the video footage. They also would potentially have a generally knowledge of the family's schedule after going to their home for a maintenance repair/upgrade. I've had to have my alarm company come out multiple times for various reasons and each time it has crossed my mind that the employees certainly have a job of opportunity.

Really? Someone with a high degree of technical knowledge and a steady job, willing to give it all up for a life on the run after scoring some cash after holding a family hostage in their own home? Who would plan that crime?